Is suicide right or wrong?

[lilpjer]

How is it being a coward?

Because your not Facing Life. You are just giving up.

 

[OwNedYOuRS]

Wrong. Done

 

Because your not Facing Life. You are just giving up.

Who are you to tell someone how to face life?

 

[Eliza]

Sometimes when you lose the will to live then you are just living like an empty shell with no ambition and nothing really to gain since you have given up. Suicide is a way out of this. Even when you have tried to get help, whether it was with medication or counseling/therapy, it just doesn't work.

Some people don't like living with mental illnesses that require you to be heavily medicated that leave you like a zombie the whole day. Is it cowardly? perhaps but its people's choice to choose what they want to do... they want to kill themselves then whatever... it just sad when it does happen

 

[FireZ]

Personal Opinion Alert!


I see it as completely wrong in every way.



I have never considered it nor will I ever. Life cannot possibly be so bad that you need to just end it.

Life on earth is hell.


We weren't put in this world to kill ourselves.

Just my opinions.

 

[Nathan III]

I don't really have an opinion on it. I don't think anybody else should have an opinion neither. It's a very personal thing and has nothing to do with anyone else other than the person comitting suicide.. We don't have the right to tell people how they should live their lives.

 

I'm not thinking of doing it and I am not high risk, I just know that it's apparently a sin to go to commit suicide, so I am wondering about your thoughts on it?
Do you think that it's a cowardly thing to do? A brave thing to do? A bad thing?
Yeah.. tell me. Thoughts?

Here's my reasoned opinon:

Morality and ethics pertain to interpersonal behaviours. Thus for it to be a moral issue, at least two people must be involved. In this case, only the one person is party to the act, so it is not a moral issue. Things which are not subject to moral analysis can be regarded as neither good nor bad.

Some will protest that you 'hurt' others via the act, therefore those others are party to the act. But of course this logically does not follow:
I may hurt people equally if I depart for another country unexpectedly, or decide to quit my job and grow a beard. That they are emotionally distort is not a direct consequence of my action -- but rather a consequence of their own values and their observation of my private affairs -- thus they are not a party to the action and can't claim such.

I have used legal terminology above because the equivalent casual English contains connotations and ambiguities which detract from the intended meaning.

 

Its the wrong thing. Most suicides are either caused by things going bad in your life or you chemicals in your brain is imbalanced.


If its a series of bad thing happening it easier to help the person. Something that bring's you joy can help with depression. Such as a dog, pets, games. But i think it would be stupid if you commit suicide because something bad happened to you

Now with the chemical imbalance its harder to fix. They can take happy pills and such but that wont go well in the long run. You just have to figure something out that can make you happy such as a new pet.

I'm going to ask you, as I have asked many others on this forum:

Do you think it is acceptable to spew forth your prejudice on the mere fact that it is popular prejudice?

What leads a man to suicide is not the topic of debate. All you have done is entered, put down the current medical definition of depression then said "it's wrong", in much the same way a slave owner would declare that slaves should not be freed, or that dogs should not have their tails cut.

What thought have you given to this subject? Where is your reasoning to back this opinion?

 

[tak3 notes]

i belive suicide is rediculous. ok so you had a hard life or w.e ur reason is get over it. if ur a kid then u have your whole like in head of you and if ur a grown man then be a man not a child.

 

Well im trying to tell people why people will commit suicide and how to stop it. If people know why its happening they can see it through different points of views.

If some people only think it happened because they are just depressed without any real reason.

But if they know what the real reason why some people commit suicide they can tell if its right or wrong. From the point of view of the suicidee.

Which is great except thats not what the thread is about. The only part of your post which pertained to the subject of the thread was "Its the wrong thing", which was not backed by any argument as to why, only a spiel about what might cause depression in some people.

i belive suicide is rediculous. ok so you had a hard life or w.e ur reason is get over it. if ur a kid then u have your whole like in head of you and if ur a grown man then be a man not a child.

More prejudice.

This is a forum for rational arguments. Don't come in here and slap your disgusting second-hand opinions on the table as though they were fine cuts of meat.

I don't care if it's a popular prejudice. In fact that is all the worse; That makes you a bigot AND a coward.

 

[morttt]

I don't think suicide in itself is either right or wrong. It's just an action someone has taken. There is no way of measuring the rightness or wrongness of such an action that couldn't be disputed with an equally acceptable opposing view.

If you wanted to attempt to determine whether a specific suicide was right or wrong, I suppose you could look at the consequences of it and then try and weight up the positives and negatives. But how do you compare the outcomes? On the one hand, one person's suffering has ended, but on the other, someone else has to deal with that person's death. You can't quantify these things and so you can't easily compare them in order to make a judgment.

Alternatively you could use a value or rights based view of determining the right or wrongness of the suicide, but this would completely depend on arbitrary opinions based on your culture or personal beliefs.

 

[vegury]

Suicide is a personal choice. It is not morally correct for it to be made illegal.

 

[Deacon Frost]

Here's my reasoned opinon:

Morality and ethics pertain to interpersonal behaviours. Thus for it to be a moral issue, at least two people must be involved. In this case, only the one person is party to the act, so it is not a moral issue. Things which are not subject to moral analysis can be regarded as neither good nor bad.

Some will protest that you 'hurt' others via the act, therefore those others are party to the act. But of course this logically does not follow:
I may hurt people equally if I depart for another country unexpectedly, or decide to quit my job and grow a beard. That they are emotionally distort is not a direct consequence of my action -- but rather a consequence of their own values and their observation of my private affairs -- thus they are not a party to the action and can't claim such.

Well put. Besides, psychological evaluations are not evidence, so even if the people emotionally affected did come forward, there's no way for them to prove that they are in fact emotionally affected. They can say that the person who killed themselves affected them in drastic ways, but there's no way to prove that.

The only thing left is the physical, and you're killing yourself so it boils down to: "Is harming oneself illegal, or is making it illegal justified?" Which then comes to the point of do you own yourself, and are you allowed to do with your property as you please. If the answer is no, then the reigning government is invalid and should be dismantled. If the answer is yes, then you may kill yourself, and it is right as you are doing with your property as you please.


Not to mention, living is cowardly, killing yourself is quite a feat of strength. We aren't programmed to kill ourselves, we're programmed to survive. So going against the programming shows strength, and courage, whereas going with the programming is nothing extraordinary.

 

Well i think its the wrong thing to do because most people have a family. Now they dont think about there family and what emotional pain it would have on them. If the person who commits suicide is quite young it tends to leave the parents of the child quite upset and they to end up having a sad life without any children or grand children. Slowly they end up being depressed and commit suicide themselves (only in server cases).

Here is a napkin. Please cry loudly into it.

 

[Arya]

[I haven't read many of the replies.]

I, personally, have, I suppose, conformed to thinking of such topics, especially the subjective ones, as neither, nor. What I mean by this is that, when I think of suicide, I don't categorize it into a right or wrong.

If something cannot be seen as right, not because it's immoral, etc, but because it's simply not that kind of topic, then in no way can it be seen as wrong. Of course, there's always the argument of, "Well, it's unethical.", "Well, it's immoral."

That doesn't quite make it right or wrong. So, I guess what I'm saying is, I see suicide as a subjective choice.

Is it brave? It is cowardly? Well, that's subjective, and totally dependent on the situation. [Keep in mind that it being brave doesn't make it right. / It being cowardly doesn't make it wrong.]

For instance, we're in war. I am a high ranking officer with vital information about my sides weapons. Information that, if the other side had, would be used to crush us inevitably. One day, I'm captured, and it just so happens that I can't withstand their torture methods for much longer.

I kill myself.

You see? This would be considered an act of bravery, in some ways. So many situations can be concocted, many of which show different attributes. This is why the question of whether suicide is right or wrong is a totally misguided concept.

 

[Supercre]

In my opinion, things are only going to get better. You can resort to many other things than suicide if you're going through rough times.

 

[sammyj]

Suicide in my opinion is wrong as it messes up other peoples lives as far as having to pay for the funeral, counciling, ect
but euthanasia should be right

 

[sammyj]

Suicide is wrong, as it affects morethan just the person commiting the suicide

 

[Panzy Wanzy]

People are incredibly lucky to be granted life in the first place, for those that can not cope with the stress of life, suicide may be a good option for them. To me, life is a challenge, I try to do my best to overcome everything that it throws at me.
I also don't have the guts to commit suicide, I could never bring myself to do it.

 

[Newblet]

Yeah i agree. It's wrong. And most ppls would change their mind if they could.