Suicide, is it fair? [SENSITIVE]

[Cursed Dice]

It's a mental issue, a lot of these people are bi-polar or depressed. Their emotions are heightened, so their sadness pushes them into a pit of darkness which pains them. They aren't in the right mindset therefore cannot make rational decisions. Suicide is a tragedy and undoubtedly will cause their families a lot of grief, their parents especially who will probably blame themselves for the tragedy.

 

[Threehundred]

Personally, I feel like it's selfish to guilt trip someone into living a life they don't feel is worth the effort for the sake of yourself (or others). People like to say it's cowardly but it's a long time fear humans have of the unknown and especially death. So to bring yourself to do something so extreme, more often than not, isn't something that regurgitated words of comfort can mend. This doesn't mean to say that I don't care. It's just not something to lump in with the whole "you're cared for by someone and therefore you're probably not a complete waste of oxygen." Everyone's circumstance is different.

Coming from past experience, I feel it is quite selfish. I understand what some people will say, "You don't understand what it's like". That is entirely false, won't delve into that anymore.

The fact of the matter is that this will affect everyone around you. You can say your parents don't love you, you don't have any friends, etc., but they do love you. If they didn't, they would kick you out of the house for being a moneysink. But that's aside the point. I've experienced a feew suicides, and it tears families apart. They may of not had a picture perfect life, but they were managing just fine. Even in the case where her parents weren't attentive in the slightest, they still were devastated. The mother went into a deep depression for a long while, and the dad basically became a drunk to cope with it. That was a wake up call, about their poor parenting style, that they should not have had to experience. So yes, it is selfish. People care about you, and people love you. There are always people that you mean the world to.

 

[Lemons and gin]

It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem and no one can prove this statement invalid.

 

[Soil]

At the end of the day If the person can't bare to live or is in that much pain they want to die then who are you to stand in their way. Suicide is a "thing" because people aren't heard or given the time of day to the extent they feel away from society which is fucked up.

 

[PrettyGood]

You have to be pretty weak-minded to commit suicide (not in an offensive manner, just the literal). I think it is fair for someone to commit suicide, it's a last resort and some people become so stepped out of reality that it seems like the only option to make their pain go away. It's an outside perspective and pretty ignorant to judge one who kills them self. I just think it's unfortunate that one has gone to that far of an extent to put such a deadly permanent solution for a temporary problem.

 

[FeelsSadMan]

To put it simply, no. It's not fair.

I'm not saying it's "an easy way out." I don't believe that. I think it would be ignorant to say anyone who has committed suicide wouldn't have done just about anything to make their pain or issues stop. It's a last resort for anyone.

As hard as life can get, seemingly unbearable. All pain is temporary. I realize I'm speaking from opinion and personal experience, however this is how I feel about the subject. It's not something easy for me to talk about as I've been suicidal before. My family is the only thing that kept me strong enough to hold on.

My father took his own life. Nothing has and will ever compare to the trauma my siblings and I have faced from this. My unborn child will never meet her grandfather. None of us are the same. I won't speak too much for others. I now suffer from PSTD and have trouble being in public.

To put it simply, no. It's not fair.

I'm not looking for sympathy. It helps to share my story. If anyone can relate to this, it was worth it to type this out.

 

In some situations, the person can be in such mental anguish that you would have to ask yourself: is unfair for you to expect them to keep going on?

And then there's those who simply "have nothing to live for" and are not depressed or hurting. They just believe that there is nothing here for them, and do not care who it hurts. I'm not speaking of people who literally do not have anything to live for... Rather people who have loved ones that it would hurt, but they simply don't care and chose to take their lives because "why not? This world is evil, I don't want to be here and never chose to be. I refuse to watch this world burn"... In that situation, it is unfair to the loved ones.

Personally I believe it would be selfish to expect people who are suffering to continue with their life when they are in such mental anguish. However with that being said, it can be seen to be selfish to allow someone to give up and as a result it becomes a difficult factor. People may believe there is always help for those suffering and taking the suicide route is as some have put it - dying won't change anything.

My relative attempted suicide a few months ago by overdose on medication, as a result of a significant amount of debt (in which she was mildly depressed, 3 years prior to the event- not medically diagnosed hence use of word mildly). Ever since that event, she has lived the "I have no reason to live", "why do I have to wake up" (as in - why can't I die instead of waking up), "why did you give birth to me" mode. As a result of her attempt, she suffers mentally, emotionally and physically, which is enough for the doctors to determine her as unfit for work, aged 25. In essence and in all truthfulness it may seem to us that it's not fair that she could have that mind set, that there is no point for living etc; but to her, family or relatives even if their caring people, doesn't mean anything, other peoples existence is a minor flaw in a persons mindset when they're like that. And by minor flaw I mean it's not as important to them as we feel it is or how we believe it should feel for them.

If we could put ourselves in a persons position (empathetically not physically) where they are suffering, it would be drastically more understandable to contemplate why a person could commit or accept suicide as an option. Now I'm not saying this ultimately decides that we should presume to be sympathetic with those who do commit suicide or who have tendencies to want to, but generally for those who have posted with no remorse or those who deem it unfair on family in certain circumstances could understand differently when proposed with using empathy.


On a side note; thank you to everyone who has participated (those with actual genuine/intellectual comments - aside evaders etc). It has been a great learning experience understanding the differentiating opinions, views and personal effects that suicide can have on people by reading these responses.