Marijuana.

[Mr Black]

Also towards the causing of accidents. Alcohol has caused several times more accidents than Marijuana, and more deaths, and more violent crimes, yet it remains legal. Do not try and say Marijuana should be illegal for the same things that Alcohol does when it remains legal itself.

Marijuana does cause lower the immune system, however there are thousands of other perfectly legal substances that lower it as well. Poor diet consisting of high fats and high sodium = lowers immune system. So does that mean we should make McDonald's illegal? Now I do think McDonald's should be illegal, but people should have the right to eat what they want, because after all, it is a FREE country.

So, you were saying?

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I'm not saying it shouldn't be legal, I wish it was. But it would be dumb to ignore obvious cons. And there are obvious cons, which I previously stated in my first post on this thread. I suppose it's all according to which source you take more stock in or whether or not you want to believe it.

This might sound totally ignorant, bias, and completely situational. And probably is.

Look at someone who has smoked their whole life heavily, then look at someone has never smoked.

Which do you think has a better job ? Better future ? Better emotional/physical health ?

I've seen it's effects first hand.

Again as a disclaimer I smoke occasionally, I wish it was legalized. But like drinking should be done in moderation.


EDIT: You could argue it should be legalized no matter the effects, because it is wrong to for the government to tell people how to live their lives. And it is. But from a government's stand point, they don't want their nation to indulge in a plant that would have harmful long term effects on their people.

 

[gtdarkpunisher]

Also towards the causing of accidents. Alcohol has caused several times more accidents than Marijuana, and more deaths, and more violent crimes, yet it remains legal. Do not try and say Marijuana should be illegal for the same things that Alcohol does when it remains legal itself.

Marijuana does cause lower the immune system, however there are thousands of other perfectly legal substances that lower it as well. Poor diet consisting of high fats and high sodium = lowers immune system. So does that mean we should make McDonald's illegal? Now I do think McDonald's should be illegal, but people should have the right to eat what they want, because after all, it is a FREE country.

So, you were saying?

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I'm not saying it shouldn't be legal, I wish it was. But it would be dumb to ignore obvious cons. And there are obvious cons, which I previously stated in my first post on this thread. I suppose it's all according to which source you take more stock in or whether or not you want to believe it.

This might sound totally ignorant, bias, and completely situational. And probably is.

Look at someone who has smoked their whole life heavily, then look at someone has never smoked.

Which do you think has a better job ? Better future ? Better emotional/physical health ?

I've seen it's effects first hand.

Again as a disclaimer I smoke occasionally, I wish it was legalized. But like drinking should be done in moderation.


EDIT: You could argue it should be legalized no matter the effects, because it is wrong to for the government to tell people how to live their lives. And it is. But from a government's stand point, they don't want their nation to indulge in a plant that would have harmful long term effects on their people.

Thing is your source may be telling the truth but it doesn't include realistic number, just includes the smallest percentage of anything that could happen. Before government website said marijuana was strictly dangerous and other things until more found out the truth about it so they changed it a bit.

You're arguing that everyone will be a heavy smoker now? Even then those who are heavy smoker and have miserable lives is because there was more than just pot in their usage. Heavy smoker I know that are in their 40's and 50's work as accounts and supervisors for clothing companies and warehouse distributions. Its simply they know priorities.

Ha! Yet they allow a plant that kills millions? Tobacco. And alcohol which has caused many accident, deaths, and worse family chaos. Yeah, the government sure cares for us. /sarcasm.

 

[tesla man 3]

i love pot.

there is one simple fact: no one can justify its illegality

 

[Θ↔КОЯΝ_104372]

I believe tobacco/alcohol are legal for two reasons.
1. $$$$$$$$$$
2. Population control

The deaths caused by tobacco/alcohol help slow the exponential rise of the World Population! (My Opinion)


Edit: I also smoke weed everyday and support the legalization, just thought I'd throw that in there.

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[Pokerking88]

I believe tobacco/alcohol are legal for two reasons.
1. $$$$$$$$$$
2. Population control

The deaths caused by tobacco/alcohol help slow the exponential rise of the World Population! (My Opinion)


Edit: I also smoke weed everyday and support the legalization, just thought I'd throw that in there.

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1. You will make just as much money from taxes on Marijuana.
2. I don't agree with you on this one.

 

[tesla man 3]

I believe tobacco/alcohol are legal for two reasons.
1. $$$$$$$$$$
2. Population control

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1. they would make $$ from weed one way or another.
2. very interesting theory. I havent really thought of it that way before but tbh i would not come close to ruling it out. i think its just as likely as any other reason. Tbh idk so much if it is the actual reason, but i think it should be lol

 

[Θ↔КОЯΝ_104372]

1. You will make just as much money from taxes on Marijuana.
2. I don't agree with you on this one.

1. Yes, but are you able to grow and process tobacco in your own home?
How many alcohol stills are still around for personal use?
The government can require people to pay taxes because it is the only way it can be obtained.

However marijuana can be grown from inside your home, or outside!
It is pretty hard to regulate something that I can produce myself. If it was mage legal, I estimate that 50% of marijuana will be grown personally and not purchased from the government.


2. Where would our World Population be without WW1/WW2? There would many more people without the some kind of loss on population, and the growth of human kind would grow exponentially as hell! Also, take global warming into consideration when dealing with population control.


"He stated that by 2030, tobacco could kill eight million people a year." (Worldwide)
http://www.postzambia.com/post-read_article.php?articleId=21909

"The World Health Organization estimate that tobacco caused 5.4 million deaths in 2004 and 100 million deaths over the course of the 20th century"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tobacco_smoking#Health

 

[tesla man 3]

1. Yes, but are you able to grow and process tobacco in your own home?
How many alcohol stills are still around for personal use?
The government can require people to pay taxes because it is the only way it can be obtained.

However marijuana can be grown from inside your home, or outside!
It is pretty hard to regulate something that I can produce myself. If it was mage legal, I estimate that 50% of marijuana will be grown personally and not purchased from the government.

simply put: anyone can grow flowers in or outside their home. Yet the floral industry still thrives to this day. Hell, just bought flowers for my gf the other day.

 

[Θ↔КОЯΝ_104372]

simply put: anyone can grow flowers in or outside their home. Yet the floral industry still thrives to this day. Hell, just bought flowers for my gf the other day.

No shit. I don't crave roses and dandelions, and spend $600/month on flowers.
However, I do spend $600/month on marijuana.

Big difference in motivation to illegally produce.
Also, the government would be charging the same prices ($3500-$4000/lb of plant)

Can you make $2500 off of one pound of flowers?

 

[tesla man 3]

Also, the government would be charging the same prices ($3500-$4000/lb of plant)

so your telling me that you not only know for a fact that the government will legalize it, but you also know the exact price at which they will charge... impressive. -.-

 

[Θ↔КОЯΝ_104372]

so your telling me that you not only know for a fact that the government will legalize it, but you also know the exact price at which they will charge... impressive. -.-

I am not saying they will legalize it anytime soon.
Or that I can predict the future.

I get my prices from Medical Marijuana shops, that get taxed by the government.

You think the government's going to come in and say "Okay potheads, we are going to slash prices 50%!"

Hell no, their motivation to legalize in the first place is MONEY!!

And here are the prices in Amsterdam by the gram:

Amsterdam Marijuana Prices:
average price per gram, broadcasted by National Dutch VARA Radio by Koos Zwart updated 22/6/06

Edelweiss (Dutch) 10$ ($4400/lb)
Punto Rojo (USA) 9.5$ ($4200/lb)
Golden Acapulco 9.5$ ($4200/lb)
Skunk (Dutch) 9$ ($4000/lb)
Purple Haze (Dutch) 8$ ($3500/lb)

http://www.webehigh.com/city/detail.php?CITYID=9​

 

[JC Day]

I don't support this at all, I sat on the street while trying to cross because of this, I fell asleep at the mall because of this, I got reprimanded at school when I was in highschool coz I shouted in front of our principals office coz I thought I was just whispering everytime I talk. I smile all the time and I can't help it. I laugh at anyone who looks at me coz I had a feeling they were also high. My cousin became antichrist coz he thought there are palaces and unicorns underneath the ocean. He was having a good life in europe, but it all went down coz he had to come back here and do some crazy shit again. I ate spaghetti like they were rocks. I lost my way home coz my sight were all yellow while staring at the moon for half an hour.

I mean you could say marijuana is ok for you, you are doing it for the better. But some people doesn't know how to handle it or their body will ever be able to handle it.

If it will be legalized I think the world will be chaotic, full of crazy people, undergrad kids, son's bangin their own mom, 12 year old kids bangin goats(true story from our local news).

Getting high on marijuana aint just normal, might be for some people like you who knows how to handle it, but 50% of the population I'd say are crazy enough to get exposed with this.

 

[Θ↔КОЯΝ_104372]

I don't support this at all, I sat on the street while trying to cross because of this, I fell asleep at the mall because of this, I got reprimanded at school when I was in highschool coz I shouted in front of our principals office coz I thought I was just whispering everytime I talk. I smile all the time and I can't help it. I laugh at anyone who looks at me coz I had a feeling they were also high. My cousin became antichrist coz he thought there are palaces and unicorns underneath the ocean. He was having a good life in europe, but it all went down coz he had to come back here and do some crazy shit again. I ate spaghetti like they were rocks. I lost my way home coz my sight were all yellow while staring at the moon for half an hour.

I mean you could say marijuana is ok for you, you are doing it for the better. But some people doesn't know how to handle it or their body will ever be able to handle it.

If it will be legalized I think the world will be chaotic, full of crazy people, undergrad kids, son's bangin their own mom, 12 year old kids bangin goats(true story from our local news).

Getting high on marijuana aint just normal, might be for some people like you who knows how to handle it, but 50% of the population I'd say are crazy enough to get exposed with this.

People must get super duper high from where you live!

I think you have PCP and marijuana confused..

 

[JC Day]

trust me they are because of poverty, corrupt government plus drugs.

 

[Θ↔КОЯΝ_104372]

I want to see the news article on the kid bangin a goat..

 

[JC Day]

People must get super duper high from where you live!

I think you have PCP and marijuana confused..

what's pcp sorry

I want to see the news article on the kid bangin a goat..

http://professionalheckler.wordpress.com/tag/political-ads/

there you go, look for the topic bizarre behaviour

 

[Θ↔КОЯΝ_104372]

what's pcp sorry

http://www.nida.nih.gov/drugpages/pcp.html

 

[tesla man 3]

You think the government's going to come in and say "Okay potheads, we are going to slash prices 50%!"

Hell no, their motivation to legalize in the first place is MONEY!!

And here are the prices in Amsterdam by the gram:

Amsterdam Marijuana Prices:
average price per gram, broadcasted by National Dutch VARA Radio by Koos Zwart updated 22/6/06

Edelweiss (Dutch) 10$ ($4400/lb)
Punto Rojo (USA) 9.5$ ($4200/lb)
Golden Acapulco 9.5$ ($4200/lb)
Skunk (Dutch) 9$ ($4000/lb)
Purple Haze (Dutch) 8$ ($3500/lb)

http://www.webehigh.com/city/detail.php?CITYID=9​

purple haze for $8 a gram??? I pay $15 per gram for shit thats not as good of quality. so yeah, its already 50% cut right there.

and for the record, they would be pretty stupid to not cut the prices as it would still be easy for drug rings to sustain themselves and maintain nice profit by simply cutting their prices in turn or even offering the same prices but tax-free.

 

[Θ↔КОЯΝ_104372]

purple haze for $8 a gram??? I pay $15 per gram for shit thats not as good of quality. so yeah, its already 50% cut right there.

and for the record, they would be pretty stupid to not cut the prices as it would still be easy for drug rings to sustain themselves and maintain nice profit by simply cutting their prices in turn or even offering the same prices but tax-free.

But, at those prices, the plant is still worth $4000/lb
And that is where it is legal and mass produced in warehouses.

...and I pay $10-$12/g of DANK in Fl

 

[tesla man 3]

But, at those prices, the plant is still worth $4000/lb
And that is where it is legal and mass produced in warehouses.

...and I pay $10-$12/g of DANK in Fl

where in FL???