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  1. Unread #81 - May 5, 2022 at 10:07 AM
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    yes but the buyer still has to accept these ToS or he has free choice to go elsewhere.
    I don't think it's really an issue, but can you please give an example IRL of worsening ToS as a result of my suggestion, thank you.
    example of specific rules that your big boy uses in ToS that will be removed as a result of competing prices?
    what. conditions. will. deteriorate. and. how?
     
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  3. Unread #82 - May 5, 2022 at 10:14 AM
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    Health insurance: you pay less, and less gets covered

    Any type of insurance basically
     
  5. Unread #83 - May 5, 2022 at 10:15 AM
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    In regards to a 99 HCIM FM.
    10 big boys all selling it.
    Same price, all listed on Sythe.

    How do ToS conditions deteriorate? As you've mentioned they will.
    A example of ToS in ToS form, what conditions removed? etc?
     
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  7. Unread #84 - May 5, 2022 at 10:17 AM
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    I explained it already more than twice; it's the obvious direction the market will converge to. Read things back.

    Besides, that's not the main con. There are multiple.
     
  9. Unread #85 - May 5, 2022 at 10:20 AM
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    Why are you ducking the question?
    You say they deteriorate, prove it?
    List some examples.

    You've got none. Therefore, if the market price isn't listed on 10 big boys but Gladiator, people are forced to accept one or research 10 for price versus just view price on thread.
    Admit it.
     
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  11. Unread #86 - May 5, 2022 at 10:26 AM
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    A provocative way of speaking won't get this suggestion through for you.

    I dont have time to repeat myself, I tried my best to paint a clear image of my POV, which is based on basic economics and experience. Feel free to reread what I wrote in this thread if you want more clarity on that.
     
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  13. Unread #87 - May 5, 2022 at 10:28 AM
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    Still waiting for you to provide some examples of how prices listed forces people to compete on ToS and as a result, adding 10 discords is necessary and what deteriorations to ToS will occur? Call it what you want. I call it you being called out on bullshit that you know doesn't make sense so you've ducked the Q several times, each time it's asked.

    If 10 big boys, in your example, all they have to go on is Price if ToS are all fair (which we know are going to be - as you can't provide examples of deterioration) then the buyer has to contact all to find a price, and move away from Sythe and message all 10 on discord.

    Unless you have a better Con of the suggestion you want to try?

    If you want to list problems, without examples of it really occurring or examples of what might occur? your point is really pointless and what are you doing in this section?

    The idea is that we all benefit from a better market that is also regulated in a better way
     
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  15. Unread #88 - May 5, 2022 at 10:56 AM
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    Your idea of 'free market is it's a wild west.
    Let's not be a marketplace but a advertising board to another server.
    If we impose having a price, it's not a free-market.
    If we impose a price, this will happen however I have no proof or examples.
    What you're saying is bullshit and if you dissect it down and argue your finer points, it's just protecting the big guys.
    Let's sell accounts based on buyers laziness to have to go elsewhere and join a server to find a price from a marketplace supposedly that doesn't even list the price. We'll acquire buyers because of our donations and vouch count.
    You're not protecting anything but the big boys and relying on the inconvenience of adding discords upon the buyer to sell accounts.
    Most people are one-time buyers. If they buy bulk, they'll hunt.
    These people deserve a price, not a task.

    What would you rather do? Walk into Johns Supermarket, wanting 10 items and have to ask for each price? Or just know Johns a cunt and his prices suck and go elsewhere? In a single click versus adding/waiting/discord.
     
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  17. Unread #89 - May 5, 2022 at 10:57 AM
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    It's not necessary to join ten servers. Customers can join five or one. Whether or not a customer wants to do (extensive) market research is his decision.

    Again, Sythe isn't there to hand the best product to a customer. It's a free market. Let people be free.
     
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    It's a market that doesn't list the price of the object it's selling?
    Seems like an advertising board for discord?

    People don't do ToS or deals out of discord?
    Good, fuck off. This is Sythe, not discord. Stick to discord advertising

    I'm not asking people to only accept PP, times change, people accept a lot of things.
    However this is a marketplace that requires external forces to make a decision, essentially you're making it a board for ad's for discord servers for big boys.
     
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  21. Unread #91 - May 5, 2022 at 11:06 AM
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    I'd argue it's a mix of both.

    Telling me to 'fuck off' or saying that certain points I make are 'BS' don't make you sound more convincing by the way. Free advice: raise your arguments not your voice, if you want your suggestions to come through that is.
     
  23. Unread #92 - May 5, 2022 at 11:08 AM
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    if you're trying to debate someone, perhaps answer the question they asked 7 times instead of ducking it because you can't find a valid answer to your counter-claim.

    I wasn't telling you to 'fuck off'.

    Just because you take offense doesn't mean I'm wrong. I'm not blatantly calling you insults like 'someone else' was.
     
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    Are we here to to buy/sell or not?
    It's not a mix of both - it's forced to be both because of unlisted prices.
    You claim ToS affected yet provide no examples.
    Your claims are bogus. Please provide examples.
     
  27. Unread #94 - May 5, 2022 at 11:13 AM
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    Im not debating you, Im responding to a suggestion where you incidentally are raising points with regards to the suggestion you made. If anything we're having a discussion.

    I can choose what I respond to and what I see as relevant or irrelevant. You've so far repeat one point which has been rebutted more than once and in different ways. Your inability to grasp those responses or raise new points is not my concern.
     
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    Therefore I'm allowed to ask you to provide examples to your rebuttal?
    I made a suggestion, you say it's bad for X reason, I ask for proof of X reason, you fail to provide it.

    You can choose what you want to respond to, sure. But if you're bringing it up in the discussion and it's been asked for relevancy, you don't have to explain? Can just say if prices are listed Y will happen with no proof?
    You claim it's been rebutted but have no examples. Literally in the IRL way i've asked for you to provide it, that has relevancy to the suggestion.
    You're bringing up insurance fraud? LOL sure. How does that impact here? Examples?

    Nice. Rely on the old tactic of, i'm the retard that doesn't understand it to make your point seem more relevant and no explanation required. Sobeit.

    It's been fun.
     
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    The last 2 pages is literally me asking you to provide examples to your claim of how prices listed on Sythe will affect ToS competition and cause it to deteriorate with examples, instead you've just spammed.
     
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    Ok,

    You're right. I must reply to your random/obvious questions and if I chose not to, your points are automatically valid. Furthermore, I must explain everything to the nail and bear you calling everything you don't like/understand 'BS'. Failure to oblige automatically leads to the points raised on my end not being relevant.

    Congratulations. You've won the thread based on your own criteria. I'm absolutely sure that there's nothing that can stop this suggestion from coming through now.
     
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    it loops
     
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    I wont read 100+ replies (wtf) but my short answer is that account sellers wont support this and will try to give random ass reasons for their "no support" replies, meanwhile it's pretty obvious that their goal is to join their shitty Discord server. I personally don't really care about this, that's how they're doing business, I guess.
     
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    Big support, I'm also a fan of removing all graphics from all market threads (and from IRL products too). Text is informative enough, people need to unknowingly and perhaps unwillingly download big files and generally speaking only rich can afford high quality GFX design that would only increase their sales.
     
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