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I just showed you how you could in fact find a price

You're bitching about having to join discords and everything else, and have been given exact reasons why people do not list their prices which you also failed to understand and instead tried to avoid for another reason

 

Actually, you do

if there are no prices presented or if there is something on special offer you typically ask. If I walk into a local corner shop in the UK, a lot of them do not have prices, you simply take it to the counter and ask or just pay what they say

 

I don't want to do that, I want to reply but because I'm replying to everyone, sometimes it takes longer/ gets muddled up.
I appreciate your feed back, I don't appreciate you insulting me because we have opposing views.
Sorry I don't completely understand your statements sometimes, that doesn't give you any right to insult anyone and believe you're better than them

 

I go to the market and ask what the price of the set product is / if there is a discount.

 

OK, I bet you anything the majority of online and in-store stores have prices. Your indian owned local deli doesn't mean jackshit.

 

So me saying you teabagging things is insulting you? Not really, that's stating facts

It isn't about thinking someone is better than the next, it's simply putting across that you need to stop diverting the fact of the information you was given to try stir up issues in the market when you was given quite valid reasons to why it wouldn't work, with no constructive feedback in return via your comments back

Edit - However, if your comments are "getting muddled up" there is a quote button instead of reply button, that way like shown in this reply you can actually quote multiple people at once

Facts are facts, being racist doesn't really matter in the face of business - You ask questions, you get responses and if you don't you take your business elsewhere

 

This was your attitude to kick it off. No need to act like a child.

That's not racist, you referred to a small time deli? Majority of the corner stores here are owned by Indians. I was just pointing towards the fact the majority of stores have prices listed, instore and online. Also on other OSRS sites.

To be fair, you're acting up like i'm trying to cause controversy. I literally wrote a thread with an idea I had as a buyer trying to find certain prices.
I am open to discussions.

 

So me saying you're spewing a bad suggestion is me insulting people? I think maybe you need to understand what an insult is lol

And yes, it is racist, you're assuming religion/nationality based on a product which involves race = racism <face plant into my desk>

I can assure you, Indian nationality doesn't always involve deli counters lol, in fact in the UK you never see anyone of that origin with that sort of path of life, mainly English/Turkish and the occasional African who also sells exotic meats as well so what does that tell you? Research is always key, and a lot like your rushed racist slur, this thread seems thrown together with no real back basis to it which has been mentioned

Also you're not, otherwise we wouldn't be in this heated debate like right now. You have been given several feedback from actual vendors, ones who are actively in the market and all you have done is show that you have no idea what you're on about

 

you're in a heated debate, no one else.
i'm debating them with ideas, can I not do that to them here?

 

I will give you another example @2Easy as it seems we haven't hit base yet

Need 5x HCIM B glove from scratch - Look on this thread, do you see the price quote from him anywhere? Of course not, he is leaving it open until he finds a reasonable price and that's the same as how things are in the selling section instead

You do not list the price, if people want your business they should chase you up as much as you would them if you wanted theirs in the same way, I was looking to buy gold a while back and let's say like todays prices are around .29-37 and that's a pretty big difference to some

I go to a few sellers -

Seller A - 0.35 and has 10000000B in stock
Seller B - 0.34 and has 10000000B in stock
Seller C - 0.31 and has 1000000B in stock

So seller C essentially has less, so there for I would have to search for another seller on top unless I paid the little bit more from A or B. Does this mean A and B should post their prices on their threads until each of them is out of business due to competing with each other and lowering and lowering the bar?

 

But you're not

In a debate, you listen to all sides, not just your own. If your own makes no sense then you lose the debate to begin with, as there has to be valid reasoning for it to continue

 

this thread is 7.5 hours old mate, it doesn't have to die because there's a few replies. you've got to let it simmer, like a teabag.

 

So you ditch my original concept to help you understand a bit easier, well hoping so and go to my second reply. Good job lol

You're really making this much easier than it needs to be, you just make it seem like you're trying to troll people

But again the point you're not understanding is that would cause friction in the market, of which everyone would undercut each other to the point there is no market

 

Firstly, in your example you're talking about a service whilst I'm talking about accounts.
Can we use an account example perhaps? A simple 99 fm HCIM.

What is the problem with sellers having to undercut one another?
Why have to rely on buyers not doing their research by not listing prices?

 

I am using it as a basis to help make it easier for you to understand, not because it's a service

And why are you asking me the questions when it's your suggestion? You're meant to be the one with the answers not us lol, that's usually how you gather support to make it pass

EXACTLY THE FUCK ME IN THE ASS POINT WE MADE TO YOU LOL...

They do undercut each other, and that's EXACTLY why people don't list their prices a majority of the time to try avoid this happening /facepalm

I'm truly done lol, losing brain cells replying now. You have no actual information to give us and backtrack it with questions when you're meant to answer the questions so we can support the suggestion

 

What did you mean by this?

negotiations are fine. fixed price gets the buyer his likely 2 candidates and he can contact them knowing their price, versus having to contact (10) everyone to know their price to conduct negotiations.

for bait situations: the customer contacts the seller with the fixed price of 100m and the seller states the price is 150m it's clearly baiting, otherwise, the customer moves onto the next person who had another price closer to 100m. i don't know how to moderate it, a strike system, player reports? no idea as of yet.

people can still undercut with the current rules. you see the price range on max melee from 50-130usd. you have to contact the people yourself to find their price. inconveniencing the buyers because you don't want the most fucking basic information regarding a contract to be public without research that's private is silly. Other sites state their prices.

 

Adios amigos

 

buyer beware in regards to it's probably a scam, therefore they should check vouches and set up countermeasures to scams. if reject using a middle man, probably scam or just go elsewhere if get a bad vibe. I'm not saying listing the price is spoonfeeding them. A contract which is what is happening, is

• an offer.
• an acceptance.
• an intention to create a legal relationship.
• a consideration (usually money).

the offer here is incomplete, you're telling people what you have without a price. it's essential. but for some reason, they must do tedious research because if we list prices, prices will be undercut and prices will turn to nothing in a market that is apparently 'free' because of simply listing prices.

What even makes that a valid reason in the eyes of a buyer?
"Hey newcomer, you have to add 10 servers to buy an account, otherwise just go with the guy who autospams every 4 hours and only join 1 server and buy that price assuming the market is fair and so is he".

 

An important part of transactions is not only prices but also ToS. A seller can offer better prices, but less favorable ToS. Will you, therefore, also force sellers to mention their entire ToS here?

I hope not. In addition, most sellers will not trade outside of their servers (and ToS). Buyers being forced to join servers is not a corollary of Sythe policy but of a market shift that's more discord(server) oriented.

 

no ToS can be decided on at the point of sale, it's not required at all initially.
buyer narrows down selection easier and goes from there.
seller can list ToS in their descriptions, however i recommend the seller sythe PM the buyer the ToS and get an agreement.
essentially, what and how much is what the buyer needs to know initially.
is Sythe a discord or a website for trading? it doesn't have to be outside of Sythe.


you're saying in order for the sale ToS to be binding, they can't just Sythe PM them the ToS?
Discord isn't the only means of trading. However the price being forced onto Discord is making it one.

If you have a good price, I'll join your server.
I don't want to have to join 10 to FIND your price.

I'm not being spoonfed, I'm being told what to I have to exchange for your advertised item.