[Requested close by OP]

Sorry for the spam below, go to page 5 onwards to read support/no support.

My suggestion: All threads selling accounts must include a price in TITLE and FIRST POST.
-> if title too much to suggest, then price must be included ONLY in first post.

Remove the inconvenience on the buyer of searching for price and put it on seller to include a price in their initial post on thread.
Makes plenty of sense.

Most people who comment on these suggestion threads have a lot of threads selling accounts themselves, and therefore I can understand them not wanting to change/ make things harder for themselves. I'd appreciate opinions from smaller syther's that actually buy accounts rather than just being sellers.

If 10 big sellers, all with lots of vouches and great ToS are all selling 99 max melee accounts and no one states the price, you have to either add all their discord servers and join to simply find a price, or just go with the first price someone offers and hope it's a good price. Why? Sythe is a marketplace, why are we going to Discord to find the bare essentials of a deal? The Price?

PROS:
Buyer knows the price instantly.
No longer have to send a Sythe PM and wait for reply.
No longer having to send friend requests and wait for a reply on Discord.
No longer have to join a random discord server and wait for a acceptance/price.
No longer having to mute discord servers, or remove them as a result of price.
Makes price checking YOUR items/accounts easier to compare against others.

CONS:
People will have to edit their threads.
(This inconveniences people with a lot of threads, however, they're bumping their threads 6 times a day using an auto bumper: so all the more reason to have their prices accurate).

Current rules don't mention you need to have a price in your thread.

Spoiler: current rules

Interesting points below:

 

Agreed.

Similar to my comments on the post regarding having actual accounts in your sales threads. Many times I've felt like I'm wasting time having to PM for a price that could have quite easily been included on the thread.

I also agree with your point on discord servers. I've recently left 10+ servers that I had joined for a similar reason.

 

Disagree

1. What stops people from giving super-wide price ranges to sidestep this rule
2. Negotiating is a big part of a free market
3. Requires constant updating of prices
4. Sometimes public transparency about prices is not beneficial to the seller and market
5. An important part of transactions is not only prices but also ToS. A seller can offer better prices, but less favorable ToS. Will you, therefore, also force sellers to mention their entire ToS here?

I can go on to add more reasons why this is not a good idea

 

No support,

It has been known that the market can be very wide, this includes with services as much as gold/accounts etc and while I understand the ruling for services that you need to "give them a quote if you're posting" i don't see the issue with the rest

 

Price must be one price, I didn't mention a range.

So is knowing the price of the item you're buying. Can't negotiate if I don't know the price.
Shouldn't have to go beyond Sythe, add you to discord, join your server, just to find a price. You're advertising a product, not a server.

Not really, a few cents change in USD/GP price, Even if not updated, it still gives the buyer a starting point for an expected price. (This is for accounts).
With other items such as gold, names etc perhaps a Discord is more reasonable.

How so? and how is it more beneficial than the buyer actually knowing the price?

What are your views on the Pro's of my suggestion?
From the POV as a buyer, not a seller?

 

if the seller stated a price, it's something to work with for the buyer.
if prices change, at least buyer has a starting point and can contact seller and be told it's something else/nearby.

 

Quite literally doesn't make sense

If it's a service sure i'd understand and we have to quite that as well.

When it comes to actual things, let's say gold, majority are gold flippers, so they aren't going to all post that they are .32 or .33 or .35 etc

 

Sure, thanks for your views, I hadn't thought so much about currency.
My focus was more on accounts being sold.

It makes sense to you for accounts being sold to have a price in their thread, right?
Not a lot of range on account prices - shouldn't be? You ask a seller and they don't say 50-60M? They say 60M.

 

accounts are a grey area more than anything, a lot like gold as it all varies on your vouch count etc as well as that can easily come into a factor

You may see someone who has 2 vouches selling a max caper for $1k but you may also see someone with 2,000 vouches selling the same identical account for $5k, which are you likely to choose if you know the price up front

 

I amended the thread to mention purely accounts - not other things that have ranges, ie. currency.
Agree?

 

That's an issue with vouches, not prices.
You must assume everyone does their research before making decisions - is rational.
Can't fix stupid.

 

The point i'm trying to make is vouches do offer somewhat security hence higher price and such

You wont see the same two stands of vouches with the same price,

With that again - No support from me, as this just seems like a silly reason to try change something that doesn't need to be

 

That's from the standpoint of a seller though.
From a buyers perspective, these are sufficient reasons for a change.

Buyer knows the price instantly.
No longer have to send a Sythe PM and wait for reply.
No longer having to send friend requests and wait for a reply on Discord.
No longer have to join a random discord server and wait for a acceptance/price.
No longer having to mute discord servers, or remove them as a result of price.
Makes price checking YOUR items/accounts easier to compare against others.

 

Again, makes no real difference

I think maybe you're missing the point, a lot like you was in your previous discussion so I wont entertain this further as it's a waste of everyone's time replying to you

 

I was replying to: "silly reason to try change something that doesn't need to be"

There's clearly a reason it needs to be changed. People don't know the price and have to jump through hoops and join shit discords to find it. Shouldn't have to. Was asking your views from a Buyers perspective how it is changing something that doesnt need to be.

I don't think I'm missing any point

 

You are missing the point, I have given you an exact reason behind it as well which you seem to skim past

Please link me to where you believe someone who is NOT trusted and someone WHO IS trusted should be given the same price guide

 

What's the point of requiring a fixed price if you're allowing deviations from it through negotiations. What's there to stop people from just setting minimum prices to bait customers and demand a different price when negotiating?

 

I don't think you're understanding what I'm asking.

To your point, you're bringing up vouches, and trustworthy sellers - we're talking about a buyer knowing a price of an account and not having to waste time searching for it.
People do their own research before buying, like the saying goes, "if it sounds to good to be true, it usually is".
I don't know what else you want me to acknowledge about your comment?

 

Another important con:

Most people don't actually know the market value of their accounts and they only find out what it is by having a thread set up with no price listed. People should be able to decide themselves whether it's more beneficial/necessary/efficient to list their prices or not.

 

The price is a starting point. If the seller decides to decrease their price due to negotiations, that's fine.
They won't ever increase their price in negotiations will they?
If they're setting a minimum and then not abiding by it to bait, then they're misleading customers.
Sellers have 7 days to change prices from 'last edit' date. Otherwise, they're baiting.
Simple.