Ihatequesting - Intellectual Property Theft

[Alch]

Scammer's profile link: iHateQuesting


This report is long overdue, but it came to my attention he's mass selling a site that was custom made for me. I messaged Sythe regarding permission to post the report, as I believe a somewhat similar report was recently posted, and said to feel free as long as I redact the security issues on the sites he made so they aren't exploited.

A user called IHateQuesting, funnily enough, one who reported another user for property theft, actually originally stole the design/code from my custom made website. The website is being hosted on oldsite.boglagold.com as a model to compare the sites. His site was initially released as an exact copy with a recolour, but proceeded to make some changes.

Below is a doc compiled by my developer with a list of similarities that should make it clear that the code was stolen, rather than used as inspiration.

Duplicate Site


The more concerning part is that he's selling the modified stolen content to several people, which made my site look like some sort of template because so many people are using it. His development thread is here :

#1 Website Developer on Sythe ♛ Buy A Custom Gold Site today! [$500 Donor & 1,300+ Vouches]

And here is a list of website's with my custom code that he's made/sold so far:

www.WhyGrind.com
www.ScapeGold.com
www.Shop4Rs.com
www.ScapeStock.com
www.BasGoldShop.com
www.CircleGP.com
www.AceGoldShop.com
www.BGPSales.com

Also would like to note I've been a victim of a developer copying someone else's work completely and don't at all blame the people who bought his service - RS3GoldMart stole my design

My developer said to mention that he definitely had access to the non-client sided code, which means someone shared the source with him, or sold it to him - Quid, our old developer ( now banned on sythe for scamming me & divica ). He made a note at the bottom of the doc noting this.

I can also connect the person who made the site (Quid) with him. Ihatequesting claims to be friends of a banned serial scammer 'ballers', and ballers was assigning quid to do site work for me until he finally introduced me to Quid, and he made me the custom Bogla site with my specifications for every page, and stayed on as developer for months after until I had to let him go for scamming me. I do believe ballers and ihatequesting are the same person as seen in my report here Ihatequesting - ban evasion. I only bring this up to point out that Quid, the person with the source of my site, had a connection to Ihatequesting, and this is the only way he could've obtained the non-client side code.

As for the victims who were duped into buying the plagiarized site, I think they should be refunded in full and be given a grace period to get a new site developed while using the old one, as I was given the same courtesy when I was involved in a similar situation.

 

[iHateQuesting]

Do you have a legally binding contract stating that all work done for you at BoglaGold was done for you and you only with no resale rights?

No developer would sign such a contract as they can make the same website work for a hundred different people all in the same boat and collect a larger profit than just working for you.


I wrote a large majority of your website, it's mine to sell however I choose to.

 

[Alch]

That response should be added to the previous ban evading report I made. You now claim you made the website, despite claiming Joshua made my entire website :
Gyazo - ed65daa1986959fd2fd1c911ce6f7868.png source: Ihatequesting - ban evasion

Also referenced in a skype conversation with you : - - Pastebin.com



[2015-12-27 1:58:58 AM] iHateQuesting: who made your website?
[2015-12-27 1:59:06 AM] `` *Bogla* - www.BoglaGold.com for 24/7 live chat service!: A scammer ironically
[2015-12-27 1:59:15 AM] iHateQuesting: what happened with that
[2015-12-27 1:59:33 AM] iHateQuesting: i think i know the kid who made it
[2015-12-27 1:59:33 AM] `` *Bogla* - www.BoglaGold.com for 24/7 live chat service!: Made the website, then went rough later down the line
[2015-12-27 1:59:46 AM] `` *Bogla* - www.BoglaGold.com for 24/7 live chat service!: Yeah maybe
[2015-12-27 1:59:51 AM] iHateQuesting: was his name josh/rws?
[2015-12-27 1:59:58 AM] `` *Bogla* - www.BoglaGold.com for 24/7 live chat service!: yup
[2015-12-27 1:59:59 AM] iHateQuesting: rws was his rsn not his sythe i never knew his sythe
[2015-12-27 2:00:07 AM] iHateQuesting: he scammed?

Gyazo - 7f5db033d8ca12557b1d899c3ef462ef.png





Get your story straight, instead of lying when it's convenient, whether it have been on this report or the ban evasion report.

 

[iHateQuesting]

I claim I wrote a majority of the code, which I did. Please upload proof of the contract stating that you own all code/resale rights.

I already addressed my behavior in the original report admitting it was to screw with you, and it worked

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[Alch]

I see you're claiming to 'screw with me' but from the looks of the inconsistencies in your responses, you're giving the mods the run around. In that ban evasion report you clearly state Joshua made the entire website. You were quite clear about it, even adding the word 'whole', while now you're claiming to have made most of it. You're lying in one of the report responses, both of which were reviewed by moderators. It seems your story continues to change as it breaks apart.

Here's a highlighted screenshot.

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[iHateQuesting]

If you read what I said, it states and I quote "As Bogla later states, Joshua made his entire website not Ballers". That was a reply towards the accusation that I am Ballers (how would ballers have the code if he never had access to it)(You're trying to say again I'm him yet Ballers never had access to it?) , and If I was I wouldn't be able to personally offer programming services.



Nothing is "breaking apart", I'm still looking for that contract. You know the one where it shows you own ALL of the code and resale rights.

 

[Alch]

You clearly affirmed the statement in attempt to disaffiliate yourself from Ballers, by calling him money hungry in the previous line, as well as to imply that Ballers didn’t have the coding experience (further implying that you can’t be Ballers since you can code and he can’t).

Also, the skype logs also show you having knowledge of Quid making our website.

You now claim you wrote a majority on the website, despite previously claiming otherwise, because it’s another convenient response that would make your story work if you didn’t already contradict yourself.

 

[iHateQuesting]

You clearly affirmed the statement in attempt to disaffiliate yourself from Ballers, by calling him money hungry in the previous line, as well as to imply that Ballers didn’t have the coding experience (further implying that you can’t be Ballers since you can code and he can’t).

Also, the skype logs also show you having knowledge of Quid making our website.

You now claim you wrote a majority on the website, despite previously claiming otherwise, because it’s another convenient response that would make your story work if you didn’t already contradict yourself.

I'm still waiting on the contract you had proving you own all of the code and resale rights, if you don't have it this is just slander. Quid was the main developer, I don't see the issue.
You also mention "skype logs" as pointed out in the previous report, they mean nothing as no Sythe PM followed and it's not a binding contract.

I'm sure you're kicking yourself in the ass right about now realizing you never had a contract :X

People collab with other developers all the time on projects/applications and still take the credit for it if they did majority of the work and paid for the help.

 

[Alch]

You keep deflecting to saying that I need a contract when the issue is that you stole the code and are reselling it, after claiming no involvement in the building of the website, and actively said Joshua built it on at least 2 occasions.

You’re also saying the Skype logs aren’t valid when as seen on the ban evasion report, the Skype ID proving it was your Skype is there – or are you now claiming your Skype was compromised when you sent those messages, or it just wasn’t you?

May as well leave this to the mods, as your argument has progressed from demanding a contract, to say you were screwing with me, and when logs of you actually saying you didn't built the website were presented, you tried twisting their intentions, and continue to hinge your case on building a site you already said you didn't build. Contradicting yourself again, is easier than having to refund 7 victims who bought your sites as well as admitting to obtaining stolen code.

This isn't an issue of not having a binding contract forbidding you from replicating the website, it's an issue of accepting, requesting and/or buying stolen code, and then replicating it for profits.

e:clarity/elaboration

 

[iHateQuesting]

I'm not deflecting anything, I'm asking to see the agreement you had showing you own any and ALL code and that it was made for you and that's it.

You cannot report someone or hold them accountable for "stealing" intellectual property without proving you own ALL the rights to the code which you have yet to do... Because you cannot prove that.

So I replicated my own code and sold it?

It actually is an issue that you cannot prove what you're reporting me for.....

 

[video]

Unless you are directly involved in this report, please do not post. This is not the place for armchair lawyers to copy-paste shit off of legalzoom, I wish I was making that up as a hypothetical example but someone actually did that

 

[MadDev]

I'm not sure if this counts or not, but doing a quick search shows that Quid was the author of most of the pages in our code.

 

[iHateQuesting]

If Bogla can proof post of it being his copyrighted work made specifically for him with him owning all rights of resale, I'll gladly take it all down.

This report has become nothing but jabs and name calling, none of which has any actual evidence. We have yet to see the contract I'm breaking for selling my own code.

 

[iHateQuesting]

I'm not sure if this counts or not, but doing a quick search shows that Quid was the author of most of the pages in our code.

Awesome, I'm glad you can read! Quid was the main developer on the project, should I have edited each page I added on to and or changed? I've yet to see the contract =/

 

[Miless]

So off that logic basically, I can start selling *custom* websites using Bogla's old site? (Runescape Gold | Osrs Gold, Buy RS Gold, Old School, Rs 2007) Since I updated, added onto, and fixed TONS of exploits that you still have in your source and are still selling. That doesn't seem right.
Does anyone have a way to reach Josh/Andrea to get their side of the story on who actually created the original site? As @MadDev stated, Quid was the input author on every page and I never once seen Nick's name on anything.

And yes, this is a serious question to mods/admins since it's practically the same thing. /I didn't write everything, but I have access to it, so it's mine to profit from. Right?

Edit: Not replying back to this topic as it's definitely a serious matter and it'll only be filled with spam in regards to your ego/identity crisis.

Edit2: When Quid was forced out due to stealing large sums of money, Bogla ended up buying him out of TokenBets/BG which infact would make Bogla the sole owner of the sites/work done (I remember this, because Quid tried to sell me his share of TokenBets). If you had any part of writing BG, while having the ego you've had, you definitely would have flaunted it in Bogla's face or my face while you were constantly harassing us on skype/livechat/tokenbets chat when the site was being DDoS'd in 15/16, rather than bringing it up once a report was made, almost 2.5 years after the site was created.

 

[MadDev]

@Vuuds read Miless post above, I assume that he is selling you a copy of our old website, which would contain the same exploits that were unfixed on his copies.

 

[iHateQuesting]

So off that logic basically, I can start selling *custom* websites using Bogla's old site? (Runescape Gold | Osrs Gold, Buy RS Gold, Old School, Rs 2007) Since I updated, added onto, and fixed TONS of exploits that you still have in your source and are still selling. That doesn't seem right.
Does anyone have a way to reach Josh/Andrea to get their side of the story on who actually created the original site? As @MadDev stated, Quid was the input author on every page and I never once seen Nick's name on anything.

And yes, this is a serious question to mods/admins since it's practically the same thing. /I didn't write everything, but I have access to it, so it's mine to profit from. Right?

You worked on it as a third party developer, you weren't part of the original project, it's not the same thing.

 

[iHateQuesting]

@Vuuds read Miless post above, I assume that he is selling you a copy of our old website, which would contain the same exploits that were unfixed on his copies.

You act as if patches cannot be made and that everyone is at a risk? lol

 

[iHateQuesting]

So off that logic basically, I can start selling *custom* websites using Bogla's old site? (Runescape Gold | Osrs Gold, Buy RS Gold, Old School, Rs 2007) Since I updated, added onto, and fixed TONS of exploits that you still have in your source and are still selling. That doesn't seem right.
Does anyone have a way to reach Josh/Andrea to get their side of the story on who actually created the original site? As @MadDev stated, Quid was the input author on every page and I never once seen Nick's name on anything.

And yes, this is a serious question to mods/admins since it's practically the same thing. /I didn't write everything, but I have access to it, so it's mine to profit from. Right?

Why would you see Nick's name? He can't code, and he was never even on the development side of anything, he was an advertiser for the services.

I'm still waiting for proof to be shown showing that Bogla paid for all of the rights.

 

[MadDev]

You act as if patches cannot be made and that everyone is at a risk? lol

The way your current sites are written using php to render the pages, one of the exploits cannot be fixed EASILY. It would require you to either patch it for a temporary fix, or change the entire structure for a realistic fix.