The thread disproves god entirely

Why are all of the people on Sythe atheist...

 

god ownz

 

so the bible, which was written over a period of about 500 years from a couple hundred sources, then edited over a period of about 2 thousand years by who knows how many into a couple hundred core versions, has some inconsistancies in it and this disproves the existance of a god.

my local phone book got my mothers phone number wrong, does this disprove the existance my mum?

Nope, it doesn't. It just proves that people can get stuff wrong and that not everything you read is right.

If you want to prove or disprove the existance of a god via semantics or logic then your missing the point. Proof comes from experience (science is, after all, simply experience recorded), not from debate, and frankly if a god does exist then I don't really think it would give a shit what you are able to prove with your armchair theology.

 

Generally, I find that a lot of them are intelligent.

That's not the main focus of our arguments, here.

Yet you can disprove the existence of a rectangular circle through debate. Contradictions are disprovable, and that's one of the many things we try to accomplish here (a loving God who sends us to hell).

 

I am not saying the actions they teach is wrong, nor am I saying there morals are wrong. I am simply saying that its not right adding shit in there. Yes praying to her is a sin, your not to pray to anyone but god. Jesus was god in the flesh, and hes our savior and god tells us that he is our offering thats why you pray in his name. For Mary though yes I respect her and she is great. But your not supposed to pray to her or through her.

 

What the hell
Do you know that what you just said doesn't even make sense?

HOW CAN I MAKE THIS ANY CLEARER
SHE IS THE MOTHER OF GOD
That means she could help us pray to God.

Praying to her is not a sin, and no they do not add shit.
what you are saying is biased and doesn't even make sense.

you say we are brainwashed all of our lives, but you say the exact same thing that someone from another of many Christian branch would say.
It's funny cause after I explain it to them, don't have anything to say

So, are you saying that, if you kill a whole bunch of people and really don't care and have absolutely no empathy, God is just supposed to be like, "Ah your ok, come to Heaven?"

Come on man, learn to take responsibility, he's incredibly patient, but you can't keep pushing him like this.

Hell is a punishment, Heaven is a reward. Earn your reward.

 

errr, ok.
I am a christian myself and ofcourse people disbelieve but its all about faith and no matter how hard you try to disprove that God doesnt exist you cant stop people faith.

 

Right...Imagine if we lived in a world who used faith to solve all their problems. Now that would be an interesting world.

 

Triple post ftl,
quite true but God doesnt sort out our problems its all in his divine plan that we cannot understand.

 

I wish people would stop making these threads. No ones views will change because of it.. You seem to think that using hundreds of buzz words makes you right.

 

Exactly, no one will change your just doing this to stir up an argument.

 

Faith is a cop-out. If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, you are admitting it cannot be taken on it's own merits.

-Dan Baker-Former Evangelist.

Hope I remembered that right xD

 

No you can not. He says him and him only. Here I'll look it up now. It does to make sense if he says "don't pray to any one but me" then you go ok but I'll make an exception for me and my religion. An pray to her. You don't get it...lol

EDIT:

The Vatican teaches that salvation is through the church.

According to the Catholic church you must do all of the following in order to receive salvation:

* Confess your sins to a Roman Catholic priest.
* "Receive" all appropriate Roman Catholic sacraments.
* Believe that Grace comes only via Rome's sacraments, and only through Mary.
* Buy or earn as many indulgences as possible so as to avoid Purgatory.
* Believe that Grace can only be distributed to you by Mary.
* Attend the Roman Catholic Mass on all Sundays and holy days.
* Obey all of Rome's rules (i.e., precepts of the Church).
* Be a member of the Roman Catholic Church.
* Submit yourself to the Pope.

The bible teaches that you must believe in Jesus and obey the Gospel for salvation, and that it's by the grace of God, not Mary or Rome, that we are saved. All of the above only make you subservient to the Roman Catholic church and do not ensure your place with God at all.

 

Is God not loving? Is eternal burning in hell fair punishment for murder? I think not.

It seems that God has some human flaws, then. Perhaps he is not infinitely loving?

Oh, you can. I have convinced 13 religious people to date that God does not exist.

I beg to differ.

Well, I cannot deny that it's a lot of fun to have these arguments, but that's not the only reason I start them.

By the way, dpunk, this was the quote : "Faith is a cop-out. It is intellectual bankruptcy. If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits."

Close enough, though.

 

I knew it felt like something was missing. It didn't have the usual burn xD

 

You must take responsibility for your actions. The reason he sends people to hell is so you have to take responsibility. What would this world be like if any one could do what they wanted with no consequence. The world would be in ruins so he puts it there for you to take responsibility. He is all loving thats why you can be forgiven for basically anything. Thats why Jesus was our savior so all the people without things to offer could still repent but now through Jesus.

 

1. Yes, in the bible it does say that God loves us. But also remember that if you disobey God, if you constantly sin, that doesn't makes an angry God. Heaven and hell were made for a reason. One side is the "good side" and one is the "bad." And yes, a murder would get you into hell I believe. It's a sin, and it disfollows the commandments.

2. You have convinced 13 relgious people that God doesn't exist. Well, what about the preachers who have convinced atheists that God does exist?

 

It also says in several places that God is jealous, angry, and vengeful.

God creates us. He puts us into scenarios with certain convictions of what is right or wrong, and certain amounts of will power. He knows EXACTLY what will happen, and yet he still punishes us?

First, that wasn't what I was aiming at. I was pointing out that people do switch sides based upon debates.

Second, if you look at the lives of those who become religious again, it's usually due to a loss of some sort, or hardship that causes that person to need to feel like something's watching over them.

 

this was on the first page.

Would you rather like it if your kitty being wild or being playful or happy, or would you rather like him to be a zombie listening to you in every single way and always responding with a blank stare? God enjoys people's different personalities and that's what makes us dear to him. He doesn't need us, just like we don't necessarily need our kitties. But he enjoys our company.

 

The thing about being Atheist is that you disbelieve in supernatural things, as far as divinity goes.

Which makes perfect sense, doesn't it?

I love how you are just making up stuff. Where in ANY religious texts does it say ANYTHING about God enjoying our company, and disliking robots/zombies?