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Proof That God Does Not Exist

If you think this world got here by chance and without intervention of a higher power..

I feel sorry for you and your parents.
 
paintplaye said:
So what do you believe in? The big bang?
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I've been following and reading this topic the whole time. What I believe in?

I'm a STRONG Atheist. I'd be glade to join the discussion in a muture manner mind you.

As I can see It isn't heading that way.


Well anyways:

I'm not sure In what I believe right now. They are all possibilites, Big Bang.. Higher being.. But I sure as hell DO NOT Believe in god.
 
Syrex said:
I've been following and reading this topic the whole time. What I believe in?

I'm a STRONG Atheist. I'd be glade to join the discussion in a muture manner mind you.

As I can see It isn't heading that way.
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I wasn't trying to be rude just asking what you believed (curiosity)
 
lol @ atheists..

don't mean to be rude but.. I don't understand how you can have an ounce of common sense and still believe there is no God..

it's the most logical explanation.
 
MosDef said:
lol @ atheists..

don't mean to be rude but.. I don't understand how you can have an ounce of common sense and still believe there is no God..

it's the most logical explanation.
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Ok riddle me this. How the hell is believing in something you've never seen, heard, or felt physically logical? The concept of a God is a fucking placeholder, just like it has been for thousands of years since the start of civilization. Myths were created to explain things that humans couldn't. Because it explains everything, right or not, it's appealing to the human mind because we're insecure about our mortality. You want to know how I can have common sense and say there isn't a God? Because look at this fucked up world we live in, and see how much this God you believe in isn't doing anything about it. See how many people in the middle east are being killed because of their religion. Look at how a plane was crashed into the world trade center because the US is full of Christians. Look at how the leader of the KKK is a southern baptist preacher. If you take one look at this fucked up world, you realize that it is humans that made it this way, who were being driven by a fairy tale. Forget placeholders, take up science. Science isn't able to explain everything yet, but if we're able to hold off on nuking everyone for a few hundred years, then it may be able to.
 
dpunk said:
See how many people in the middle east are being killed because of their religion. Look at how a plane was crashed into the world trade center because the US is full of Christians. Look at how the leader of the KKK is a southern baptist preacher. If you take one look at this fucked up world, you realize that it is humans that made it this way, who were being driven by a fairy tale. Forget placeholders, take up science. Science isn't able to explain everything yet, but if we're able to hold off on nuking everyone for a few hundred years, then it may be able to.
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I don't want to even BEGIN to go through a discussion about true and false religions with you so I'll just say..

the religions you described in your post are false and are not following the biblical teachings of Jehovah.

btw whenever you talk about how mean and cruel the world is, blame Adam and Eve, not God.
 
konvict111 said:
Ante, can you edit it to be shorter?
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what you cant read a paragraph or 2? jesus lazy kids these , days , and if his is too long , what about some of your posts?

Rabid_Dog said:
im confused by many of the claims in this.
IE.
Thom's Law
"Nothing can not produce something. If there was ever a time when there was nothing, there would still be nothing."

Law of Conservation of Mass
"In a chemical reaction, the mass of the products equals the mass of the reactants."

If these laws are true they would support each other.
and in theory the universe is still expanding then wouldn't something have to come from nothing? seeing that there can't be a chemical reaction that enabled it to expand.
the law of the conservation of mass is the only thing in this that has been proven to be true. making there only two situations of the out come Thom's law is false or the universe is stagnant. if in the universe things are always moving, planets are rotating, and galaxies are moving wouldn't one think that the universe is expanding making it dynamic not static.

i don't see how Thom's Law is correct in an universe that is always expanding and when chemical reactions can only produce the same amount of product as reactants you are given.
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i agree with this , all your "facts" you posted about how god exists , are paper thin and very easy to tear down , so unless you have some solid proof , then no your just another kid who does not know too awful much about the facts of god etc.

beings i have read the first page and this seems to be the weakest debate yet on sythe , i will leave you with what i have said , if anyone has came here for a real debate i suggest you go to some of the others
 
MosDef said:
I don't want to even BEGIN to go through a discussion about true and false religions with you so I'll just say..

the religions you described in your post are false and are not following the biblical teachings of Jehovah.

btw whenever you talk about how mean and cruel the world is, blame Adam and Eve, not God.
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God is the one who fucked up in the first place by letting them sin.

paintplaye said:
yea pretty weak debates
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deadzone said:
i agree with this , all your "facts" you posted about how god exists , are paper thin and very easy to tear down , so unless you have some solid proof , then no your just another kid who does not know too awful much about the facts of god etc.

beings i have read the first page and this seems to be the weakest debate yet on sythe , i will leave you with what i have said , if anyone has came here for a real debate i suggest you go to some of the others
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Quit talking about his facts being paper thin and debate them goddammit.
 
well, if he didn't let them sin and do what they want then they would be like robots that never have any choice on what to do. he wanted to give the the freedom of choice.
 
Are you trying to say there no after life too?

What about spirits/ghost? Explain them.
 
i don't belive in ghost/spirits too. i think they're just a figmant of peoples imaginations or the devils spirits in disguise.
 
I disagree when you said that god talked and that was impossible.. god could’ve crated a language and not have had anyone to speak it.. all this Is just a bunch of jibberish.. ur just makin a bunch of plays on words.. excuse my french but this is a bunch of BULLSHIT!
I am sorry but it is a bunch of crap.. god is real.. there is no way that our solar system was the one ofut of the billions that actually had a normal sun and the fact that there was water on three of the planets in one solar system is like one in sextillion or more.. it is an incredible thing to have…

You also seem to have a very large obsession with the number zero… you said it about ten times in about two sentences.. there are things…. Like absolute zero.. scientist have found out what it is but they annot find it.. it is impossible to reach…. Explain that.. they can get so close but they still can’t get it.. get so close that it is ridiculous.. but they can’t reach it.. like we cannot com out with an explanation for god.. there is none.. ther eis no way that we can find out what it is….. God is something that we cannot prove is out there… god is a belief.. I am a Christian…. And I truly do believe that god is real.. this is a great argument but I do still believe that is all a bunch of bologna.. and yes I did curs.e. oo such a bad sin…. Its not that horrible.. people do It all of the time…..

And I don’t know what the hell is up with those god advisors and you chess analogy.. it is so wrong it is stupid… I don’t even know why you would even do that… you seriously need to sit down and read the bible…. Yeah… the bible is the most accurate and oldest book known to m ankind.. it has the most witnesses.. ther e is archeological proff that walls of Jericho did in fact fall out.. castle alls do not just got and fall over for fun… I don’t know what you are thinking.. I think this whole thing is crazy….and yeah… prayer is a way to talk to god.. not to advise him.. we ask him for hel pwith out problems.. there are things that we cannot cange like a person with cancer that cannot be cured…. God can fix things like this.. miracles happen every day.. you would be surprised.. o to a church and have this talk with a pastor (the profession that I would lik ein the future) and have this conversation with him.. tell him everything that you have here. He will prove you wrong to the point of no return… stop being so sarchastic… don’t be stupid.. you are being so serious andthen you make a joke out of this.. I hope and know that you will die and burn in hell. You will have no purpose in life rather than to have fun… to enjoy yourself.. so you might as well play runescape your whole life.. become afraid of the sun.. and be a hobo for your life.. you wil never become anything..

I have found this to be the most disturbing post I ave seen… ever…. It is quite sad wat some people can do while they are bored and searching around on the iternet…
yes i know this is a long post.. buti was truly apalled at this thing...
 
shredderbeam2 said:
That is an interesting question, which begs the question: What makes them do so?
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Well, you wouldn't expect a house just to vanish into another universe...
But maybe at a quantum level, the smallest of the smallest it is possible. Maybe the hold on things in the world around us is so strong it is impossible to travel/go to another universe. Maybe at such a tiny, tiny level, it is possible.
Hey, don't ask me :p

Also, sorry for calling you a hypocrite, i shouldn't have. Maybe it was dpunk that said that. Forgive me? :D
 
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