Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

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Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

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Should Sperm Donation be illegal?
  1. Unread #21 - Aug 16, 2011 at 1:54 PM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    Your biology lass seems pretty stupid to me. They haven't presented a single valid argument against sperm donation yet. Try pressing them for something for us to disprove.
     
  3. Unread #22 - Aug 17, 2011 at 4:12 PM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    voted for no...seriously cant see a reason...
     
  5. Unread #23 - Aug 20, 2011 at 1:18 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    Well this goes both ways.

    I see it like this.

    If you are a Good person I.E you would never do anything to hurt your child AND you can finacially support your child untill a adult , Then yes you should be allowed to have a child via sperm donation.

    If you fail ethier of the 2. then fuck no.

    I don't think a child should be brought into the world if you can't take care of it properly. Yes you may be the BEST parent ever, but if you where also the BEST parent ever you would know your child doesnt deserve to be raised poor.

    Just my thoughts
     
  7. Unread #24 - Aug 21, 2011 at 12:15 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    I never really thought of it that way your like the first person here who was kinda think of both ways.
     
  9. Unread #25 - Aug 21, 2011 at 12:18 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    I voted no...there's nothing that seems bad enough to change my mind for a split second.
     
  11. Unread #26 - Aug 21, 2011 at 12:22 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    Not being biased adds clarity which others can't see :p
     
  13. Unread #27 - Aug 21, 2011 at 1:06 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    This argument challenges the affects of sperm donation, not whether or not sperm donation itself should be illegal.

    Having said that, you have no business to interrupt a financial transaction between two parties. Which, is all sperm donation essentially is.

    Again, this doesn't deal with the case at hand.

    Though, how many famous, successful, and inspiring people would you like me to name that have been brought up in a poor family? Just because you are raised in a poor family, doesn't mean you'll live a bad life, also, just because you are raised in a wealthy family, doesn't mean you'll live a good life.

    Sure, money helps, no one is going to deny that, but a parents tender love and care will always trump whatever money there is, so long as the parent can educate, clothe, and feed the child.

    Again, you have business snooping around and preventing others from conducting a perfectly valid transaction.
     
  15. Unread #28 - Aug 21, 2011 at 1:36 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    My Statement is validated by the fact of sperm donation is used for.

    That's like saying, you can't sell bullets becuase they kill people.

    edit- also my statement din't say being poor was bad, it said that a child shouldn't be brought into a poor family morally they should not suffer because you wanted a child, but it can swing both ways.

    edit2- if i have no reason to snoop into a transaction then this thread has no point, as people donate sperm for money.
     
  17. Unread #29 - Aug 21, 2011 at 1:40 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    That's what your saying, and, it's invalid. It argues that the end effect is justification for a certain action.

    If it can swing both ways than you can't say it is bad at all. Do you have any justification for why it is morally bad?

    Precisely.
     
  19. Unread #30 - Aug 21, 2011 at 1:42 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    You have to have both ends, There is no need to donate sperm if it isn't going to be used for kids.

    Which then involes certain perimeters that you should have to follow.

    Donating it isn't morally bad, infact it's good, you want to help others have children when their bodies can't.

    My statement is just a mere guideline that should be veiwed at when they are giving out the sperm to the people recieving it. has nothing to do with donating it. that was just an extra bit of information i stuck in there
     
  21. Unread #31 - Aug 21, 2011 at 1:51 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    Whether there is, or isn't a need isn't relevant. Sperm is something that you produce, you have ownership of it, if you decide to sell it, it's your choice. What other people do with it or to it is up to them. Once a contractual agreement has been reached, and ownership changed.

    The only perimeters you have to follow is the law. Given that this question is questioning the law, you cannot use this law as a perimeter.



    Some people choose to do that, some people choose to donate for money. However, what is done with the sperm isn't what this question is asking, this question is asking whether the donation itself should be illegal or not. If it becomes illegal, your argument becomes moot.

    Then you are venturing off-course of the original question, which is fine.

    However, your line of argument follows if x is used for bad reasons, it should be banned. However, you contradict that by saying if x is used for good reasons, it should be kept legal.

    You can't have it both ways by the law, as this argument assigns present rights based on future actions. Future actions haven't happened yet, and are not grounds for present rights. If you are arguing morally, you would have to prove, and show why raising a child in a poor socioeconomic environment is morally wrong.
     
  23. Unread #32 - Aug 21, 2011 at 1:56 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    I think you misunderstood me.

    Then part where i was reffering to x=bad if so and so happens was only about the people who collect the sperm, and use it for others to grant them children, not the donators. :p
     
  25. Unread #33 - Aug 21, 2011 at 2:12 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    Good people can still do bad things. Just because you may hurt your child purposefully, or otherwise, does not mean your necessarily a bad parent.

    Also, just because you may not be able to financially support your child, does not mean you'll be a bad parent, and nor does it mean you don't care about the child, or the child is doomed so to speak.

    You are arguing that people shouldn't have the right to purchase/collect sperm and create a child because they do not satisfy your two caveats. This tangents on the original question posed, and also talks about relinquishing ones present rights based on potential future actions. The future hasn't happened yet, it's only speculation.
     
  27. Unread #34 - Aug 21, 2011 at 2:16 AM
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    I still don't think your wrapping your head around what i said.

    i stated your child doesn't deserve to be born poor Now i don't know about you but my deffinition about poor is not knowing where your next meal is going to come from etc.
     
  29. Unread #35 - Aug 21, 2011 at 2:37 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    And why do you say this? Heard of Li Cunxin?
     
  31. Unread #36 - Aug 21, 2011 at 6:01 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    Your'e forgetting the essential fact that the vast majority of sperm donations go to people with two parents, usually when one is incapable of having a child. That makes it different from divorce, and the biological father shouldn't need to support the child, because the nonbiological father does. It would significantly reduce the chances that someone would donate in the first place, since a sperm donation is given for money.

    Also: the surgery required to turn artificial sperm into a baby is quite a complex one, and at least moderately expensive, so I will rule out most of the lower class, who can't afford it, and leave only the middle and upper class, which can easily support the child if they are good parents.

    Sperm donations aren't something that random people take lightly and just have a baby. That's what male prostitutes are for :)
     
  33. Unread #37 - Oct 19, 2011 at 12:23 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    this thread is illogical
    sperm banks pretty much ensure the continuity of our race bro
     
  35. Unread #38 - Jul 18, 2013 at 3:27 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    I can't decide if it should be illegal or not, but more towards yes. I think it should be legal so that people who can't have kids can have a biological one, but the effects it has on the child is too much. No one will understand unless you are a donor child. People may think my opinion is selfish, but the effects on the child are huge. Extremely high chances of mental health issues, high chances of sucide and drug addictions. Everyone thinks about the parent NOT the person it's effecting, the child. I am a donor child and think that it needs to be illegal and is gonna try to make it happen. All my life I felt like I didn't belong and that I was never loved or cared about. No one understands; they will say you have a home and everything and think that I'm selfish but no one understands what it like to not know how you are. I'll never know my "dad" . Not his name, hair color, age, race, ANYTHING. It hurts so bad when you grow up and everyone talks about their family and you know almost nothing .. I have so many issues and literally wish I was never born. I wanna get it to be illegal or force the for its to actually talk or at least let their "children" know stuff about them. EVERYONE deserves to know their family and who they are and to feel like they fit in. I promised myself that if I have a kid I will have it with a guy i will marry and give my kid the life I've always wanted. Please no one have a kid this way. Think about them too .
     
  37. Unread #39 - Jul 18, 2013 at 9:30 AM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    You don't seem to get why kidney selling is illegal... It has nothing to do with violation of the rights of others.
     
  39. Unread #40 - Jul 18, 2013 at 6:20 PM
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    Should Sperm Donation be illegal?

    Please don't necro old posts, especially when the OP is banned.
     
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