Need staff input, blackmail/extortion

[bl69aze]

My account ban has nothing to do with your deposit request lol. That was done what... a year ago? My ban was to do with my group ironman store and is nothing to do with this report, so I would suggest hopping off the high horse and stop trying to sling irrelevant comments a lot like you trying to claim saul was also scammed which is false and was confirmed by him

You are correct though, again as I did mention you would try twist my words. We made a one time exception for you to pay via another method to get it covered, it was then after covered in the correct method needed to be processed into

I really do hate typing on mobile, but this should show you the type of person Ben is for anyone who wishes to read, extremely manipulative and a compulsive emotional abuser in terms of blackmail/extorting people to gain his own

Bahaha you have no idea who I am, you’re trying to weasel your way out of what’s rightfully mine. I didn’t say you scammed me idiot, I said if anyone was scamming In this situation, it’s would be you because you’re not refunding what you should refund.

 

Bahaha you have no idea who I am, you’re trying to weasel your way out of what’s rightfully mine. I didn’t say you scammed me idiot, I said if anyone was scamming In this situation, it’s would be you because you’re not refunding what you should refund.

I've asked for a fair verdict regardless of again what you think, you have just said above that I'm trying to "potentially scam you" which is false. You paid in to something in a different currency than required, based on merit of our now ex friendship, that isn't hard to understand or figure out based on the information

You have since tried to say I am "possibly" scamming you because I've asked for staff input and not yours, you have also claimed my manager has scammed saul, which again guess what is false and also proven otherwise. And let's not forget you have tried to blackmail me multiple times over the last 24 hours, and also tried to claim (again as shown above) you are going to blackmail saul as well, which isn't a friendship by no means unless you got some weird fetish stuff going on that we don't know about

I won't be replying unless actually needed anymore, wasted more than enough time on your baseless accusations and twisting of words, like why would I withhold a deposit if the guy has rightfully been able to receive it, not to mention keep any part of his deposit lol



Edit - "ex" auto corrected as exchange so sorted that*

 

[bl69aze]

I've asked for a fair verdict regardless of again what you think, you have just said above that I'm trying to "potentially scam you" which is false. You paid in to something in a different currency than required, based on merit of our now ex friendship, that isn't hard to understand or figure out based on the information

You have since tried to say I am "possibly" scamming you because I've asked for staff input and not yours, you have also claimed my manager has scammed saul, which again guess what is false and also proven otherwise. And let's not forget you have tried to blackmail me multiple times over the last 24 hours, and also tried to claim (again as shown above) you are going to blackmail saul as well, which isn't a friendship by no means unless you got some weird fetish stuff going on that we don't know about

I won't be replying unless actually needed anymore, wasted more than enough time on your baseless accusations and twisting of words, like why would I withhold a deposit if the guy has rightfully been able to receive it, not to mention keep any part of his deposit lol



Edit - "ex" auto corrected as exchange so sorted that*

You said it again, you have no problem refunding me. How can you refund via a currency that was never part of original transaction. 190$ in btc plz buffy

 

We should stop commenting on the thread, just gives the staff more to work through

Then again, you don't mind that do you? After all you constantly spammed me on discord with threats and false claims

 

[bl69aze]

We should stop commenting on the thread, just gives the staff more to work through

Then again, you don't mind that do you? After all you constantly spammed me on discord with threats and false claims

threats? false claims? constant spam? are you crazy?

me saying I'd make a report if I didn't get refunded isn't a threat. I'm sorry you felt threatened.

I don't know... at the time you told me this it sounded like he was getting screwed over/scammed by your manager. I'm glad he got paid in full though maybe I'll get paid in full too Wishful thinking.

this is constant spam? (PS you forgot to quote the question mark, tell me how I'm twisting words again.)


you're just pulling shit out of your hat and you know it.

for real we should let Mods deal with it because we are going nowhere.

I paid $190 for his deposit to get a role as we all agreed on. no GP conversion was agreed on, I paid $190 he gets the role to work. Simple.

I'm just asking for my deposit back

when you pay a bond for a house, say $1,000 they dont say well the house dropped 10% value we will only give you $900. it's a static amount agreed on both parties to cover any damages. Once the lease is over the full amount is paid back. exactly the same

 

You're right, it was in discussion back then with chuck as it seemed like he fucked him over and then we found out it was due to time problems, and was resolved? So not sure what you're getting at, as mentioned again trying to twist the narrative but good attempt

And yes, you have spammed me. Feel free to show how many times I mentioned saul wishes us to have a group chat and that I no longer need to reply to you via pm (off the top of my head 10 times?) Thats classed spam

And as for your reference of a "bond" if it drops in value that's on you, that's how the economy works when you gamble money unfortunately

Edit - Again not sure why you're saying "I just want my deposit back", no one has disputed you wouldn't be be getting a payment back so stop picking at straws pointlessly spamming the thread with irrelevant stuff to the case. I told you I would debunk your claims, I have done exactly that so unless it's something actual proof wise thats really needed in the verdict I requested it will be reported as spam

 

[bl69aze]

Edit - Again not sure why you're saying "I just want my deposit back", no one has disputed you wouldn't be be getting a payment back so stop picking at straws pointlessly spamming the thread with irrelevant stuff to the case. I told you I would debunk your claims, I have done exactly that so unless it's something actual proof wise thats really needed in the verdict I requested it will be reported as spam

what do you mean the whole point of the thread was how much you owe me which is $190

 

what do you mean the whole point of the thread was how much you owe me which is $190

Again, you paid for a 500m deposit for your friend, that 500m is due to be returned after the cooldown

Now you can keep complaining about it and spam the thread hoping to resolve quicker, or you can wait and it will be resolved one way or another

Thanks for making me reply while I'm taking my morning dump ffs

 

[bl69aze]

Again, you paid for a 500m deposit for your friend, that 500m is due to be returned after the cooldown

Now you can keep complaining about it and spam the thread hoping to resolve quicker, or you can wait and it will be resolved one way or another

Thanks for making me reply while I'm taking my morning dump ffs

Definitely not complainibg. either way you're in debt to me for money whether its 500m or $190, it comes out of your wallet

you told me you werent going to budge on what you wanted to offer. So why would i join a group chat that would 100% go in circles.

 

Definitely not complainibg. either way you're in debt to me for money whether its 500m or $190, it comes out of your wallet

you told me you werent going to budge on what you wanted to offer. So why would i join a group chat that would 100% go in circles.

Nothing is in debt yet, there are still 29 days unless you don't understand the facts here. Also nothing has been ruled in either favor which is why I have told you to stop spamming the thread, unlike discord staff have to monitor these and come up with a reasonable solution

I don't mind something coming out of "my wallet" as it wasn't exactly in my wallet to begin with as such, it's stored to one side lmao. Not unless you're picking at the fact my account was banned, that's part of the rules of the game we take a gamble on ourselves a lot like you did paying a deposit of which you're claiming is the wrong amount (which is actually false, it's the right amount on my end) but again, completely irrelevant as you are paid what you are owed once the ending of our contract happens

 

[Chuckzoor]

go have your shower. Atleast I don’t allow my managers to scam my friends and keep 20% after “paying back.” And keep them as a manager.

He knows if he ever needs money I have his back as I have done many times before. You’re literally acting like a dodgy car salesman

can you explain how ive scammed saul? when even saul himself has said i havent?

 

[bl69aze]

After looking over chat logs before and at the time of payment, nowhere does buffed say normally he doesn’t accept btc as payment for a rank as a worker. He only mentioned that when I started asking for my deposit back (which has been a few months mind you, but was giving worker benefit of the doubt he might return to continue work which he didn’t )

nowhere did we hassle him to let us pay in btc. We asked if he could accept btc and he accepted (as shown in the ticket picture where his reference of 190 was his idea and in fact the first price he offered.)

nowhere did he claim that paying btc would be transferred to gp.

nowhere did he claim that he’s making an exception for us. I don’t see what he does with other people buying a rank. He asked for if we had funds and Saul said btc and Buffed accepted and gave a price in btc? Did he have to accept Saul? No.
Could he have asked us to buy gp like everyone else if it’s so important? Yes.

 

So in these 500 posts, what i'm getting at is that-
-blaze paid a 500m deposit for a worker to work for dbuffed
-the worker is no longer working (?) or does he still want to work later down the road?
- if the worker wishes to remain a worker and keep the deposit with dbuffed, i would need to see what type of agreement blaze and saul had to see how he would get repaid, or if it was a gift
- for the btc or whatever, i would need to see exactly what was said. It's either something along the lines of "I'll take this btc at the face value of 500m 07" in which only 500m would be returned, and not "Yeah sure ill just take btc instead".
btw no, i didn't read the 500 posts so if its one of these posts just report it after this one

 

So in these 500 posts, what i'm getting at is that-
-blaze paid a 500m deposit for a worker to work for dbuffed
-the worker is no longer working (?) or does he still want to work later down the road?
- if the worker wishes to remain a worker and keep the deposit with dbuffed, i would need to see what type of agreement blaze and saul had to see how he would get repaid, or if it was a gift
- for the btc or whatever, i would need to see exactly what was said. It's either something along the lines of "I'll take this btc at the face value of 500m 07" in which only 500m would be returned, and not "Yeah sure ill just take btc instead".
btw no, i didn't read the 500 posts so if its one of these posts just report it after this one

Hello pirate, thanks for the response I know it's been quite aids

So to touch base with what you asked, to begin there isn't a transcript anymore so both of us have scraped together what we could due to this, which neither party is able to access the full chat logs (as far as i'm aware)

- It was basically stemmed from him coming to me demanding a deposit refund without waiting the cooldown, and without me having clear confirmation from the friend who I originally had the contract with (he paid the friends deposit, just to confirm this*)

- We was as shown in the pictures that will be presented below, asked to take BTC via "an exception because we're friends" (as confirmed by Ben himself also, as he said this on the same day give or take I made this dispute too) of which was to cover the 500M. Now the main argument on agreeing vs disagreeing is the fact of the value of the 500M has now decreased

https://i.imgur.com/5ZyqcbM.png - Image is broken so link is here

Screenshot below is confirming from the actual worker (the friend who applied, and was shown in the opening post agreed to our tos etc as well*) that the original payment was to cover 500M 07 GP, of which was in fact covered pretty much 1-2 days after paying and he was ranked and put straight into the work of his choice

Below here is the current debate we have, he isn't happy to take the current pricce of things despite it not being something we can control. He has also mentioned in one of his posts that I should have given Saul a 1B deposit now if that was the case instead of 500, because gp went down in price which is again out of our hands

You will also see some blackmail below, because he tried extorting me also further funds than the 500M he paid into for his friend that we had to cover the GP on our end based off him not wanting to deal with that payment type

- It's a clear case of what he feels it's worth vs what it actually is currently worth. Overall they paid a 500M deposit, still have a 500M deposit waiting for them at the end of the day (or Saul does* should I say, as I did say to Ben on multiple occasions I didn't know what their agreement was between the two of them)

 

Also i'll leave this here @Pirate him confirming himself the payment was for a 500M+ role, not a specific BTC payment, and we obviously have Saul confirming exactly the same above

From what we knew, Saul originally worked on the guys account, didn't have funds to meet deposit, and Ben wished to pay it for him in BTC as he didn't want to use GP we said that's fine as a one off exception and both other parties (Saul+Ben) have also confirmed this to be true

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if there was a deal made stating that dbuffd would take the btc at the rate of 500m 07 for the deposit, 500m should be returned. though, we would need to confirm with the saul guy if he truly wishes to step down. once it's conf'd and his cd of 30days or whatever is elapsed the 500m would need to be returned to blaze, this is going based on what is provided here, if there is something else leave it in one single post

 

if there was a deal made stating that dbuffd would take the btc at the rate of 500m 07 for the deposit, 500m should be returned. though, we would need to confirm with the saul guy if he truly wishes to step down. once it's conf'd and his cd of 30days or whatever is elapsed the 500m would need to be returned to blaze, this is going based on what is provided here, if there is something else leave it in one single post

the cooldown has already started, Saul was demoted on the 4'th in the end as I had to AFK dealing with personal issues

 

[bl69aze]

So in these 500 posts, what i'm getting at is that-
-blaze paid a 500m deposit for a worker to work for dbuffed
-the worker is no longer working (?) or does he still want to work later down the road?
- if the worker wishes to remain a worker and keep the deposit with dbuffed, i would need to see what type of agreement blaze and saul had to see how he would get repaid, or if it was a gift
- for the btc or whatever, i would need to see exactly what was said. It's either something along the lines of "I'll take this btc at the face value of 500m 07" in which only 500m would be returned, and not "Yeah sure ill just take btc instead".
btw no, i didn't read the 500 posts so if its one of these posts just report it after this one

- I paid a $190 deposit which was the amount that buffed came to agreement for when Saul told him he could pay in btc. Again buffed didn’t have to accept btc. And we didn’t hassle him to pay in btc.

- Saul has gone inactive due to other IRL commitments. And working a new job.

- we all made agreement that payment would get sent back to ORIGINAL location. (I.e my btc wallet)
He never said “this btc would be traded at the rate of 500m” only “you will get this role for $190 btc.

I’m currently at work but all this information can be found through the posted images on my post where I sent like 20 images it’s not biased and only information that is relevant to the situation.

but I’ll post them again.

https://www.sythe.org/posts/72218760/
And also:

 

the above post is valid, $190 was sent, 190 should be received back

 

i'm going to be closing this for now as there is nothing else to add, if the rf isn't sent after the cooldown feel free to let me know