Life has no logical purpose

[ChristmasCracker]

My point is that purpose created by humans, such as becoming married or getting a certain job, exists. However, there is no "ultimate" purpose prescribed by a higher power.

Ultimate purpose is to enjoy it to the fullest, every last damn second of it.
If you have a shitty day, cheer up, tomorrow could and will be better. Somehow, one way or another. It always gets better. Always.

 

[wtp]

Life has no purpose that we know of.

 

[ShockWaveee]

Quantum Physics has been largely disproven and is not widely accepted. By purpose I mean something to work in life for, a purpose we should take in life in order to do something that is greater than life itself. Also, where did the "nothing" come from? "Nothing" isn't actually nothing, it's space.

All I'm saying is that, under our current system of logic, a creator cannot exist as he would have had to have been created. My point is not that the logic is right, my point is that the logic is probably limited in its ability to understand matters greater than humanity itself.

If it had been disproved, it would not still be taught in universities across the globe. Please, check your facts.

There is nothing greater than life, except perhaps a man's legacy. "Purpose" itself is a man made concept and has no outward effect on the universe at large. Your purpose in life can be anything you want it to be, even nothing - it is only an ideal, not something physical/tangible. I think you're over analyzing it. It's a product of the human mind/consciousness, it gives us a reason to live thinking that we are fulfilling our "purpose".. does that mean in the grand scheme of things it actually makes a difference? No, but it gives us solace/motivation. Nothing more to it.

 

[malakadang]

Quantum Physics has been largely disproven and is not widely accepted.

Who told you that?
Also widely accepted means nothing in terms of validity.

By purpose I mean something to work in life for, a purpose we should take in life in order to do something that is greater than life itself.

Your begging the question. First you must prove there is a purpose in/for life, and that it is greater than life itself.

Also, where did the "nothing" come from? "Nothing" isn't actually nothing, it's space.

Existence always existed, under current laws of conservation of matter, matter cannot be created nor destroyed.

All I'm saying is that, under our current system of logic, a creator cannot exist as he would have had to have been created. My point is not that the logic is right, my point is that the logic is probably limited in its ability to understand matters greater than humanity itself.

Logic is absolute.

Existence cannot be created, as it is a contradiction to say otherwise.
Any proven 'matters' that are greater than humanity itself?

 

[BoxWood]

Life has no purpose that we know of.

Don't make assumptions for other people, you cannot assume that someone else is not sure of their own purose in life.

 

[gtdarkpunisher]

Don't make assumptions for other people, you cannot assume that someone else is not sure of their own purose in life.

You're thinking personally still. This topic is about what can be logically proved or no proved. Not opinion.

 

[Mizoreofsnow]

Logic differs from person to person to SOME extent. The universe was created out of "Nothing" so how can you say nothing can't create something. Unless "something" has always been around.

 

[ShockWaveee]

You're thinking personally still. This topic is about what can be logically proved or no proved. Not opinion.

I hate to say this because it contradicts my usual rational, fact bearing, logical approach to nearly everything - but purpose is a concept, nothing more, and does not have to be proven logically for it to exist. I'd like to point out that this only applies to concepts or ideals, so I'm not trying to assert that something such as God requires no evidence. My point is, for example let's look at an ideology such as communism. You have no tangible/physical proof of it's existence, but you know what it is. The same 'logic' can be applied to something such as purpose.

 

[Isitarlen]

This Thread Makes Me Depressed Tt~tt

 

[raziaex]

So what if there is no 'logical' purpose to life? Why must there be one?

 

[Nympho]

Thesis: Life has no purpose (that can be understood by current human logic)
1. For life to have a purpose, it must be more than what we experience on the earth.
2. For life to be more than we experience on earth, there must be a higher being (or power).
2. For there to be a higher being, the higher being must have been created (presumably from a higher being).
3. Under current logic, something cannot be created out of nothing.
4. Therefore, there is no possible "highest" power
5. Therefore, there is no ultimate purpose in life.
6. mindfuck

What gives life purpose. Do you agree with the logic prescribed above? Discuss.

This IS life...Experiencing all the above problems , solving the above problems.

 

[luvziboy]

In the bigger picture there isnt a Purpose, but on a human level there is. and our primal instinct tell us to have children protect them feed them witch i see as a "purpose"

There is no god, there is nothing supernatural about this universe/everything, we are Nothing in the big picture, people who think we are special in any way are wrong. if the universe is never expanding there is more then 99.9% of a chance u sitting another place doing the exact same thing ur doing right now another place in the universe. everything u can think of exists and everything u cant think of exists in the universe.

BOOM think to much about this and ul end up in a mental hospital. even trying to figure out the universe will make ur head feel Empty, give it a shot.

 

[McCartney]

The purpose to life is living.

 

[Trinity19]

The purpose to life is living.

Nope, there are people who don't want their life and choose to end it.

The meaning and possible purpose of life is to die, simple as that. It is the one thing we share completely. Nothing else is as absolute, making the one collective meaning to life to be, dying.

 

[The Riddler_]

Nope, there are people who don't want their life and choose to end it.

The meaning and possible purpose of life is to die, simple as that. It is the one thing we share completely. Nothing else is as absolute, making the one collective meaning to life to be, dying.

That is not a 'purpose' of life; that is an effect of life.

 

[Trinity19]

That is not a 'purpose' of life; that is an effect of life.

It's not an effect it's an inevitability. To call it an effect is to imply it has a cause to say it has a cause is to say that it can either happen or not happen. Since the cause would be life then this question wouldn't come up if it didn't happen making it an inevitability.

Either way, just because it's inevitable does not make it impossible to be the purpose of life especially if it is the best fit answer. Why would an event at the end of somethings lifespan not be it's purpose? Especially if it's the ONE thing this group shares collectively?

 

[The Riddler_]

To call it an effect is to imply it has a cause to say it has a cause is to say that it can either happen or not happen. Since the cause would be life then this question wouldn't come up if it didn't happen making it an inevitability.

Why would an event at the end of somethings lifespan not be it's purpose? Especially if it's the ONE thing this group shares collectively?

Why would it be the purpose? Appeal to ignorance. Death is simply an event that is caused by life. Without life, death would not be possible.

If the purpose of life is to die then why have life atall?

 

[Trinity19]

Why would it be the purpose? Appeal to ignorance. Death is simply an event that is caused by life. Without life, death would not be possible.

No, you are looking at the two as if they were two disconnected entities when in reality they are entwined with one another. As you stated, without life death would not be possible, but within that same idea comes the the thought that without death life cannot be possible. This is because death is what life leads to, this is it's purpose to get from point A to point B.

Everyone throughout their lives are looking for something but this is pointless for finding the purpose to life because individually our seperate paths mean nothing to each other, they are irrelevant. However when we come to the concept of death and dying then we realize that this is where we all are connected. Through the inevitability of death we all share a common destination. Whether our reasoning for reaching this "clearing at the end of the path" are different (religion,atheism,suicide,etc etc) we all still meet at it.

If the purpose of life is to die then why have life atall?

Now I said it's the collective purpose to life, what I spoke before about different paths is your own personal meaning to life, the one by which you follow. Death explains the purpose of life in a basic way, from beginning and the end. Your personal meaning fills in the gaps between the two.

 

[The Riddler_]

You're confusing purpose of life(existence) with the purpose of human's lives. Yes everyone with life share a common end to their life (death), but you still have not proven that death is the importance of life.

 

[FibOfAllFibs]

Why can't this "Higher Being" simply have always existed? It may be hard for us to fathom, but, since it is a High Power, and can create life and manipulate the universe, why wouldn't it be possible for it to have always been there?