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Is suicide right?

If your are religious of course not. You must see it in this way, God gave you this opportunity and you have to use in the best way you can. And If you to decide to suicde, then you commit a sin. You would just throw your opportunity to do something in the world, to make something better, away and this not right.

In my opinion, I can't understand how a human can get so far? You have to stay strong no matter what happens.
 
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In my opinion, I can't understand how a human can get so far? You have to stay strong no matter what happens.

Because you have zero idea how much a mental illness can affect your way of thinking. In terms of people who commit suicide over things such as a boy or girlfriend breaking up with them etc, of course it's ridiculous because there are plenty of things which can help these situations. But what we're talking about mainly is people who get in such a bad state that in their minds, there is no other alternative. It is a decision which comes from months and months or years and years of psychological pain and suffering - not just over night.
 
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Suicides ok if you have a terminal illness a condiction were your in constant pain people who are paralyzed and people who are diagnosed with early stages pf alzsimers ect but i dont agree with any other form of suicide as i think its selfish

It's never selfish nor weak. No matter what reason, it's not an over night decision and other people would be all that was in the way. I don't think it's selfish to want to kill yourself, just a bit drastic if there isn't any illness or mental condition present and other things could probably benefit your emotional and psychological state.
 
I think that it's a truly horrendous situation if someone genuinely feels that that would rather die than live the rest of their life. I still respect the right of each person to make that decision though. I can't put myself in someone else's shoes and know how they are really feeling so it's not right for me to judge their decisions. It's right for some people and wrong for others but that's down to you as a person, you shouldn't have a say in how other people 'should' think about suicide. It's a very, very sad thing to happen.
 
Because you have zero idea how much a mental illness can affect your way of thinking. In terms of people who commit suicide over things such as a boy or girlfriend breaking up with them etc, of course it's ridiculous because there are plenty of things which can help these situations. But what we're talking about mainly is people who get in such a bad state that in their minds, there is no other alternative. It is a decision which comes from months and months or years and years of psychological pain and suffering - not just over night.

I know what you mean. But in this case you have to stay strong or am I wrong? You have to go find yourself help with a therapy, not just give up. You have to realize, how stupid you are, If you take this last step. But well what I have said will never help anyone, I can't understand these people, probably because I have never had any type of their situations. Maybe that is because I have stayed strong no matter what bad things happend in my life.
 
I think that "right" is within itself an opinion, and could be an entirely different discussion on it's own. However, I do understand suicide and why people can potentially be driven to that point. I think it's wrong to joke about, or commit in public, however; I don't know if suicide within itself is "wrong".
 
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I know what you mean. But in this case you have to stay strong or am I wrong? You have to go find yourself help with a therapy, not just give up. You have to realize, how stupid you are, If you take this last step. But well what I have said will never help anyone, I can't understand these people, probably because I have never had any type of their situations. Maybe that is because I have stayed strong no matter what bad things happend in my life.

You can't say "how stupid you are" and then admit you know nothing what it's like to be in that position. Do you realise how hurtful it could be to someone who feels that way to call them stupid for thinking so? Believe me, therapy does not always help everyone. There is no 'quick fix' for mental illness, it's like a constant battle for years.


I think that "right" is within itself an opinion, and could be an entirely different discussion on it's own. However, I do understand suicide and why people can potentially be driven to that point. I think it's wrong to joke about, or commit in public, however; I don't know if suicide within itself is "wrong".

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It's all opinion and what your morals are. Here's the thing, if you're gonna commit suicide anyways, you might as well go out with a bang. It just might change your mind about life, half way through what you're gonna be doing through your "going out with a bang" phase. Seriously though, do something extremely illegal and get the adrenaline rush or the thrill of doing it.

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Having lost someone due to suicide, whether it is right or not is totally up to the person contemplating suicide, though as friends and fellow human beings it is our job to convince the person otherwise.

EDIT: Some of the comments in this thread are rather nasty, and ignorant.
 
I think that people that commit suicide are pathetic. If you can not make it through life without killing yourself, you are a coward and taking the easy way out instead of being strong and fighting sadness.

100% agree with this. In my culture, suicide is seen as a shameful act, and I would never condone someone to commit such an act.
 
Having lost someone due to suicide, whether it is right or not is totally up to the person contemplating suicide, though as friends and fellow human beings it is our job to convince the person otherwise.

EDIT: Some of the comments in this thread are rather nasty, and ignorant.

why dont you prove the ignorant ones wrong then?

as for the nasty ones, this is the SFA. we dont care about your feelings.
 
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100% agree with this. In my culture, suicide is seen as a shameful act, and I would never condone someone to commit such an act.

why dont you prove the ignorant ones wrong then?

as for the nasty ones, this is the SFA. we dont care about your feelings.

Unless you've been in the mental state required to even attempt it, then you can't really say whether it is right or wrong. The feelings someone goes through when they are mentally disturbed are like no other. Until you've experienced this, how can you possibly say (by you I mean people on this thread who I'd deem ignorant) "it's weak" or "cowardice"?
 
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There is nothing wrong with one wanting to take their own life. Many people will not encourage it but in the end it is your decision and it should be respected. If you have the balls to do it, more power to you. If not, don't become another suicide attempt sob story. Man the fuck up and life your life, however unsatisfying it may be, or end it.
 
Unless you've been in the mental state required to even attempt it, then you can't really say whether it is right or wrong. The feelings someone goes through when they are mentally disturbed are like no other. Until you've experienced this, how can you possibly say (by you I mean people on this thread who I'd deem ignorant) "it's weak" or "cowardice"?

should we also need to be heroin addicts to be able to judge them as well?
 
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should we also need to be heroin addicts to be able to judge them as well?

It's not a case of judging people who commit suicide or attempt suicide. It's a case of people (for the purpose of this thread) stating whether they think it's right or wrong. You couldn't say it was wrong to take heroin if you didn't understand the concept of addiction. I'm not saying you need to be suicidal or need to be mentally ill per se, just have at least a more than basic knowledge on the effects of mental illness and severe depression - I may have come across as misleading I now realise.
 
It's not a case of judging people who commit suicide or attempt suicide. It's a case of people (for the purpose of this thread) stating whether they think it's right or wrong. You couldn't say it was wrong to take heroin if you didn't understand the concept of addiction. I'm not saying you need to be suicidal or need to be mentally ill per se, just have at least a more than basic knowledge on the effects of mental illness and severe depression - I may have come across as misleading I now realise.

I disagree wholeheartedly.
we do not need intimate knowledge to make a decision about these kind of things.

If we needed conclusive knowledge to make decisions, we would never make any.

it may not be "right" to you for people to judge without having all possible knowledge, but that is just another opinion.
 
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I disagree wholeheartedly.
we do not need intimate knowledge to make a decision about these kind of things.

If we needed conclusive knowledge to make decisions, we would never make any.

it may not be "right" to you for people to judge without having all possible knowledge, but that is just another opinion.

I didn't say 'all possible' knowledge, but at least an understanding. I'm simply saying it can't be said the decision is weak or cowardice when there is no understanding of the matter there.
 
If you're allowed to choose to kill a baby before it's born why can't I choose to kill myself? Society is so increadiably fucked up in this aspect of life.
 
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As much as people like to think that they're a special sort of snowflake, or that suicide is only prevalent in our society, they are dead wrong. Suicide has been going on forever, and honestly if they reach that point where they're so mentally exhausted that they want to end their life, why force them to a life they don't want to live? Why bar them in a 10x8 feet padded cell, so they can face even more pain? If they want to go, they have that right. The life is theirs, as much as people want to pretend that life is a gift, if you're born with a mental illness that deteriorates you to the point that you just want out, how exactly is that sort of life a gift? If someone can look me in the eyes and tell me that a life of pain is a gift, I'd know they're a liar, a filthy liar. It is their RIGHT to end their life, it's their life, everything anyone says is moot, in that regard.

However, on the flip side, we should try to help these people as much as we can, if you're a friend of somebody, you help them try to get back on their feet, reason with them, put yourselves in their shoes, recommend hobbies, hang out with them, support them. Do whatever you can. If in the end, they still choose to commit suicide, that's their decision, but at least you can look yourself in the mirror and know that you truly tried.
 
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