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Is suicide right?

I think that we need to focus on stopping people getting to a point where they feel suicidal. Intervening before they get into such a state is much better than trying to talk them down from the edge of a building

That's a good point. But don't you think that sometimes suicidal people (who most likely have an irrational mindset) are interpreting (over-dramatizing, actually) exterior information to be the cause for their suicide?
 
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It is a human right for someone to suicide when they give up on their life either due to failure or something. But the perspective still depends on the situation, if the person is entirely paralyzed, suffering from both mentally and physically, then suicide sounds right, but to give up directly is still wrong.

But is pathetic and stupid to give up on something such as life and give up on hope, don't let some hormones get into you. To throw away life because you have failed it for the past few years is cowardly, pathetic, stupid, ignorant and arrogant. The happiness and sadness of life is always balanced, always try to view your life in different perspectives, and if you are still stubborn about it then always remember theres always hope and do some thing about it.
 
I think that people that commit suicide are pathetic. If you can not make it through life without killing yourself, you are a coward and taking the easy way out instead of being strong and fighting sadness.

I disagree, not everyone lives the same life or people have different scenarios in life, countless war veterans commit suicide after the things they saw while they were gone, life isn't supposed to be like that, you can't call someone pathetic because all of the people that they looked up to, protected, and got protected by got their necks slit. The depression and stress would be to high, suicide is sometimes an option but usually you are correct, they are pathetic, and cowards, but if you are generalizing every one that commits suicide I would have to disagree.
 
Life is a challenge for everyone in every way and it depends that how to face it. Some people looks to be in crises while some in ease but the life has many turns no one can get what he desires. Its better for everyone to compromise with his life and complete it instead of finish it.
 
Sure you may feel bad for someone who dies and whatnot..

But people who commit suicide in my eyes are complete pussies and throwing away everything they've had. They might of been going through harsh times, but by killing yourselves you're just making the lives of close people around you harder and they shouldn't have to live with that because someone is pathetic enough to kill themselves.
 
In my oppinion, and will probally be #flamed for this, but each individual is born equal, with equal rights, equal oppertunitys and the equal oppertunity to make individual descicisons. In cases what they do has negative and opposite reactions and I donnot agree with suicide, but an indiviuals choice is a powerful right that illegalising suicide revokes.
 
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That's a good point. But don't you think that sometimes suicidal people (who most likely have an irrational mindset) are interpreting (over-dramatizing, actually) exterior information to be the cause for their suicide?

Do you actually know what it would take to attempt suicide? No, you probably don't. Yes, people will say the feel suicidal etc, but 9/10 times will not attempt it, or will light heartedly and fail, because it takes much more than an overreaction of sadness to attempt suicide. It takes severe depression and possibly mental health issues developed from that, to even think about seriously committing suicide.

If someone wants to die, that's not up for other people to dispute whether it was right or wrong, because unless you've been in that situation - you will never know what it is like when you are truly suicidal. It is not right or wrong, it is a right.
 
I believe it is an acceptable act in very few cases; if someone was blind, deaf and had no sense of feeling anywhere in their body, aren't they already dead?

If someone has something to live for though it is not an acceptable act.

If you can see; you have something to live for.
If you can hear; you have something to live for.

Committing suicided over a breakup or because you are lonely or because you feel you are not socially accepted is retarded.
 
I believe it is an acceptable act in very few cases; if someone was blind, deaf and had no sense of feeling anywhere in their body, aren't they already dead?

If someone has something to live for though it is not an acceptable act.

If you can see; you have something to live for.
If you can hear; you have something to live for.

Committing suicided over a breakup or because you are lonely or because you feel you are not socially accepted is retarded.

I disagree with you.

How is it in any way your decision(or anyone elses for that matter) what reasons are 'acceptable' to take your own life?

Again, it is a personal decision whether or not you have anything left to live for. Someone that is really considering killing themselves probably has something really serious going on in their lives that you don't even know about.

A reason that might seem silly to you, could really be eating someone up inside, leaving them feeling broken and empty. If the pain becomes so unbearable to a person that they have lost their desire to live...

I think that its disgusting that you could just sit there, looking at someone from the outside and deciding that something that hurt them in such a serious way is 'retarded'
 
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Iv been thinking about it. Iv suffered from depression from age 12. Every couple months i go through a period of sever depression and i make a list. Reasons to live. Reasons to die. Iv been coming short for reasons to live these days. I know i don't have it in me to commit suicide but im also to stubborn to get professional help. I know this period of depression will eventually pass and ill be somewhat normal again.
 
I believe it is an acceptable act in very few cases; if someone was blind, deaf and had no sense of feeling anywhere in their body, aren't they already dead?

If someone has something to live for though it is not an acceptable act.

If you can see; you have something to live for.
If you can hear; you have something to live for.

Committing suicided over a breakup or because you are lonely or because you feel you are not socially accepted is retarded.

People don't just commit suicide for being lonely or breaking up. People get bullied, family doesn't want them and they have an easy way out, to escape the hurt.

I think committing suicide is one of the bravest things you could do.
 
For me personally, I am against it as it goes against my character as a person and my faith as a Christian. I would never contribute to the idea under any circumstances. With that being said, if someone is does commit suicide I would never comment on their decision saying "They're a moron" or anything of the sort. In terms of understanding their reasoning as well, that will never be an option because once they're dead, they're dead. Drawing assumptions is a different story, my close friend committed suicide but he attempted to do so three times prior. He was classified as bi-polar, and often thought to be schizophrenic. Not only that, but he was a former drug addict so there are definitely issues he was dealing with at the time that could have influenced his decision making. Nonetheless, he felt that it was the right decision even though he was adored by everyone who took the time to know him.
 
I agree with the OP 100% in this:
I felt NO pity/sorrow for the mother as she made an unthoughtful decision that could not be reversed.

i don't pity people who commit suicide. Theyre stupid enough to think that suicide is the most feasible option in a given situation...then that's their own damn fault for taking the sissy way out.

I'm a firm believer that life is too short to end it unneccessarily, no matter the situation. Anything and EVERYTHING can be worked through if you just have a little faith and confidence. I don't care what happens, nothing is bad enough to commit suicide over. I just don't believe in it.
if you're upset that your girlfriend dumped you, then to hell with her, there's tons more. maybe you just found out that you got herpes from the burner you hooked up with? woops, that sucks but you can still work through it. perhaps you lost your job, everything you own, and your house? look on the bright side and think" perhaps ill be better off trying to start over and rebuild" Maybe you will, maybe you won't succeed. life is just a big game of chance.
If you can't man up and conquer your problems, then perhaps committing suicide will help the rest of society by taking your ignorant ass out of it, but it won't solve your own personal problems.
It's harsh, but that's the reality of it. millions of people have committed suicide, and I can't say I pity any of them for their irresponsible display of immaturity.
 
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I agree with the OP 100% in this:
I felt NO pity/sorrow for the mother as she made an unthoughtful decision that could not be reversed.

i don't pity people who commit suicide. Theyre stupid enough to think that suicide is the most feasible option in a given situation...then that's their own damn fault for taking the sissy way out.

Let me stop you right there. "sissy way out."? Suicide is not the weak option, suicide is probably one of the hardest decisions someone could ever make. Some would argue that in that position, living your life in constant, severe sadness and making your mental and physical state worse and worse by doing so, is the easy way. By letting death come to you slowly, rather than ending your own suffering when it's probably best on you and the people you love. No loved ones want to see their close ones suffer like that.

I'm a firm believer that life is too short to end it unneccessarily, no matter the situation. Anything and EVERYTHING can be worked through if you just have a little faith and confidence. I don't care what happens, nothing is bad enough to commit suicide over. I just don't believe in it.

I respect you believe it, first off. But, how can you say anything and everything can be worked through. Have you ever suffered from mental health issues or proper, rock-bottom depression? Do you know what that's like? If you do, then I take it back, but if you don't, then you can't really say.

if you're upset that your girlfriend dumped you, then to hell with her, there's tons more. maybe you just found out that you got herpes from the burner you hooked up with? woops, that sucks but you can still work through it. perhaps you lost your job, everything you own, and your house? look on the bright side and think" perhaps ill be better off trying to start over and rebuild" Maybe you will, maybe you won't succeed. life is just a big game of chance.

People don't commit suicide over break ups and STD's. Just ignoring this one.

If you can't man up and conquer your problems, then perhaps committing suicide will help the rest of society by taking your ignorant ass out of it, but it won't solve your own personal problems.
It's harsh, but that's the reality of it. millions of people have committed suicide, and I can't say I pity any of them for their irresponsible display of immaturity.

I don't think someone committing suicide would ever help the rest of society, but you have your own opinion. I think you're being a little hypocritical when you say someone is immature and ignorant for doing so, when you're also being pretty ignorant to what state someone must be in when they decide to end their own life and also immature for making comments such as "ignorant ass out of it," and "they're stupid enough ... the sissy way out." I think you ought to assess your own criticisms before you go ahead and become exactly what you're criticising.
 
Let me stop you right there. "sissy way out."? Suicide is not the weak option, suicide is probably one of the hardest decisions someone could ever make. Some would argue that in that position, living your life in constant, severe sadness and making your mental and physical state worse and worse by doing so, is the easy way. By letting death come to you slowly, rather than ending your own suffering when it's probably best on you and the people you love. No loved ones want to see their close ones suffer like that.

you think loved ones want to live with knowing that one of their own killed themselves cuz they "just couldnt take it?" By going suicidal, they've done nothing but make themselves look weak, and negatively impacted everyone around them. Life throws you lemons, just make some lemonade. It's not that damn hard. The good lord throws you obstacles because you're supposed to work through them, not just give up like a sissy.

I respect you believe it, first off. But, how can you say anything and everything can be worked through. Have you ever suffered from mental health issues or proper, rock-bottom depression? Do you know what that's like? If you do, then I take it back, but if you don't, then you can't really say.

Yup, I know what it's like to hit rock bottom. After losing a high-paying job, I ended up taking the only job I could find that offered the opportunity to make decent money to survive on, so I could feed my family. Only problem is that I was having to work almost 115 hours every week(most of you know nothing about this, nor have the gumption to ever experience a 115 hour workweek of hard physical labor), nonstop, due to the pay loss I had taken. Nonetheless I still accrued massive debt, almost lost my relationship with the mother of my child, and put myself into a hole that took me over two years to work my way out of. I had no time to spend with friends, I had little time to eat, I simply felt alone in a world of billions of people. Suffice to say, the misery was at an all-time high; I was in utter disappointment with my life. I've since recovered(because im not a pussy and I don't give up) and gotten back into my niche of the oil industry that i've spent years doing. I've paid off all debts, married the misses, and am in a much better place. Never once did I think about something so inbred as killing myself. God never intended it to be an "option" to live, if he gave you a life in the first place.

People don't commit suicide over break ups and STD's. Just ignoring this one.

Just silly examples, but nonetheless the little emo kids like to cut their wrists up over silly shit like this. It's just too bad they don't cut the right way.

I don't think someone committing suicide would ever help the rest of society, but you have your own opinion. I think you're being a little hypocritical when you say someone is immature and ignorant for doing so, when you're also being pretty ignorant to what state someone must be in when they decide to end their own life and also immature for making comments such as "ignorant ass out of it," and "they're stupid enough ... the sissy way out." I think you ought to assess your own criticisms before you go ahead and become exactly what you're criticising.

Become what i'm criticising? I'm criticising idiots who kill themselves. I'm simply not stupid enough to understand the concept of suicide. There's simply no rhyme or reason for it. It takes a lot longer and a HELL of a lot more effort to work your way out of a bad situation(versus just pulling the trigger) but in the end, it's always worth the effort. People who actually do commit suicide simply don't have the ability to see the greener grass on the other side. They think about themselves, and not about the people they're affecting.

I think i'll just quote your quotes and insert my thoughts in RED.
 
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Over the summer I had a friend (who I don't speak to anymore for unrelated reasons) who told would talk with me about how she frequently contemplated suicide every couple of months. Honestly scared me and still scares me. Like.. who knows when you could wake up and hear that she was dead.

I consider it a selfish act if you have anyone in your life who cares about you.
Maybe some people don't know how many people they have.
 
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I think i'll just quote your quotes and insert my thoughts in RED.

You're generalising everyone who commits or attempts suicide as "pathetic little emo kids". I agree, there are people who self harm and cause fuss because they think it's "cool" or what not. Although I agree, you went through some hard times in your life, you did not have mental health problems - which is what I'm talking about. Cases which are so bad, where mental health problems are developed and from this, suicidal thoughts. And to say that God is throwing these obstacles at us, and preach like a good little Christian, you can't turn around and say someone is weak and a pussy for feeling suicidal. It's people like you who are ignorant to what it takes to push someone that far that make them do it. Stop calling people who don't know what else to do pussys and maybe try to help them? You're more selfish than they ever are.
 
Suicide is alright.

It's my life. I do as I wish.

I myself have thrown in the towel a few times, by sheer luck I am still here.

What motivates or pushes someone to that extent is either irrational thoughts or reached a limit no human should reach.
 
You're generalising everyone who commits or attempts suicide as "pathetic little emo kids". I agree, there are people who self harm and cause fuss because they think it's "cool" or what not. Although I agree, you went through some hard times in your life, you did not have mental health problems - which is what I'm talking about. Cases which are so bad, where mental health problems are developed and from this, suicidal thoughts. And to say that God is throwing these obstacles at us, and preach like a good little Christian, you can't turn around and say someone is weak and a pussy for feeling suicidal. It's people like you who are ignorant to what it takes to push someone that far that make them do it. Stop calling people who don't know what else to do pussys and maybe try to help them? You're more selfish than they ever are.

Survival of the fittest my friend. There's no need to help those people if they're mentally ill, sure you might stop them from doing it at the one time, but who's to say months/years from then that they won't do it again? My friends and I agree that people who commit suicide are weak-minded and if they can't handle whatever it is, then good, commit suicide, that just shows your character. And you're going to say "oh blah blah, you don't know what they're going through errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr" I honestly don't care what they're going through, no matter what, if you commit suicide, then good riddance. I was bullied in school quite a bit back in my middle/high school days and I made it through no problem because I beat the shit out of anyone that screwed with me. If the people who commit suicide can't stand up for themselves then oh well. (example) - That Amanda Todd chick that is getting wayyyyyy more attention than should be given. Ok lady, you showed your tits several times on webcam, you made masturbation videos, you seduced a kid that already had a girlfriend, and you expect everyone to feel sorry for you? If you really regretted those choices, you should have found the son of a bitch that was blackmailing you and pushing you around and dealt with him.
Now say you commit suicide for other reasons like you're poor or you have no one left family-wise and so on and so forth, or even a health issue. That's no reason to kill yourself.
You're poor? Cool, go get work and get off your ass.
You have no one left? Hello, go get married and have some kids.
Oh you're mentally challenged? Too bad it's not the old spartan days where any kid that was mentally or physically deficient was slaughtered.

I mean hell, my friend whose brother committed suicide doesn't feel any remorse or sadness for his brother, he himself even said that his brother was a weak-minded individual and deserved it.

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