Homosexuality

[Iggyefex]

I have nothing against homosexuality and I don't think homosexuals are destroying our race by not being able to reproduce. If anything, the population is growing too fast.

 

[malakadang]

Sadly, murder is. Anybody who commits a crime, and makes it through the court system long enough for them to sentence capital punishment, in my opinion, deserves it.

Absurd, murder is not necessary.
If I went to murder your mother, and father would that be justifiable as necessary?
Murder on a large scale is genocide. No one can justify to me that genocide is necessary.

Capital punishment is opinionated. I am against it, for the one reason is our system is the direct opposite of fool proof.

http://truthandjusticedenied.com/Wrongful_Conviction_Statist.html

I think that capital punishment should ONLY be used in situations where a person is deemed harmful to society even when handed a life sentence. Eg. Mob Bosses, Terrorist leaders.



I don't like homosexuality. Only because I personally find it undesirable on a sexual level.
I don't think I condemn Homosexuals at all, if anyone tells me that someones gay, I'd probably just say "Oh."

I do not think they are destroying our race, I just dislike the idea, a personal opinion and nothing more.

 

[A lot of gp]

There is nothing wrong with being homosexual. It's just the way you see and feel for people.

 

[Rejection]

The world population will NEVER drop due to homosexuality. There are enough people, not including myself, who are opposed to it, and will continue to reproduce- therefore, the population will be fine. Also, there are plenty of Straight, Heterosexual people who still don't reproduce. I think being opposed to something like Homosexuality is quite sad, as it doesn't hurt you. It's a choice, and whether you like it or not, some people make it, just as somebody chooses purple as their favourite colour. Please don't act like there is much of a difference, as it doesn't make any difference to you. The OP's argument isn't correct, either. Genocide is killing, but within Homosexuality, nothing is ever created to be killed.

 

[rspooper]

That's like saying murder is necessary, or the death penalty.

So you're saying being gay is no differen't than killing somebody?

 

[xXC0NSP1RACYXx]

Homosexuality is caused due to genetics not by choice.

I'll agree with this statement.

 

[malakadang]

I think homosexuality is necessary, without it the world would eventually become overpopulated.

I responded
That's like saying murder is necessary, or the death penalty.

So you're saying being gay is no differen't than killing somebody?

Don't put words in my mouth, I don't know why you would think being gay is the same as killing somebody?
Care to elaborate?

You said homosexuality is necessary to reduce the worlds population.
I responded murder is necessary to reduce the worlds population.
They both have one thing in common, they're fucking stupid statements.

 

[Insidious Insinuations]

Care to explain why the world population continues to rise whilst the tolerance of homosexuality also increases, then? Nothing is being ''destroyed'' - homosexuals simply don't reproduce, just as many heterosexuals don't.

Many of the 'tolerant' nations don't have birth rates higher than 2.1 births per woman (sustainable rate) much less population growth.

Why are you opposed to homosexuality? It's like declaring yourself opposed to the colour green.

VERY different.

I think homosexuality is necessary, without it the world would eventually become overpopulated.

Ever heard of abstinence, abortion, contraception?

Homosexuality is ok, its not wrong and by all means abnormal, Seeing two men kiss is not going to Turn a Child Gay nor will it damage them.

Homosexuality is caused due to genetics not by choice like every religious quack seems to think, life is hard enough as it is why would anyone truly choose to be sexually attracted to the same sex.
The main reason people think homosexuality is wrong is because years ago churches frowned upon, statements like "God doesn't make you Gay, The Devil does" is fraudulent and basically its like saying "We don't know anything about it, lets blame the devil"

Maybe you could try standing in someone else's shoes for once.

Proof of genetics causing homosexuality?

Are you suggesting that children of homosexuals would be very likely to be homosexuals themselves? (i.e. if the seed of a homosexual man was to be planted in a lesbian woman ; the child conceived would very likely be homosexual?)

Homosexuality is not a crime against humanity. It's only considered to be morally 'not right' by others strictly on the fact that they were raised that it was wrong, or they plain out heard it from another source.

I'm currently learning about the human mind. I have learned that human beings develop personalities and beliefs based on the fact that we learn by hearing things.

Example:

Person A - "Michael Jackson touches little boys."

Person B - "I'm avoiding that guy then."


Homosexuality being morally wrong was nothing but a rumor started, and eventually spread throughout most of our youth's minds in our present day now.

Morality itself is dependent on society (culture, religion, philosophy) so you're just mincing words. Your example is irrelevant and argument doesn't prove or support your conclusion.

In classical antiquity, writers such as Herodotus,[1] Plato,[2] Xenophon,[3] Athenaeus[4] and many others explored aspects of same-sex love in ancient Greece. The most widespread and socially significant form of same-sex sexual relations in ancient Greece was between adult men and adolescent boys, known as pederasty. (However, marriages in Ancient Greece between men and women were also age structured, with men in their 30s commonly taking wives in their early teens.) Though homosexual relationships between adult men did exist, at least one member of each of these relationships flouted social conventions by assuming a passive sexual role. It is unclear how such relations between women were regarded in the general society, but examples do exist as far back as the time of Sappho.[5]

The ancient Greeks did not conceive of sexual orientation as a social identifier, as Western societies have done for the past century. Greek society did not distinguish sexual desire or behavior by the gender of the participants, but rather by the role that each participant played in the sex act, that of active penetrator or passive penetrated.[5] This active/passive polarization corresponded with dominant and submissive social roles: the active (penetrative) role was associated with masculinity, higher social status, and adulthood, while the passive role was associated with femininity, lower social status, and youth.[5

I don't get the point of this post.

If anything the world is too populated..I see that as more of a problem then homosexual people causing "genocide." I could care less if someone is homosexual, it's their choice. We have no right to change another person's sexual preference.

The world isn't overpopulated, if anything people are just being extravagant.

The world population will NEVER drop due to homosexuality. There are enough people, not including myself, who are opposed to it, and will continue to reproduce- therefore, the population will be fine. Also, there are plenty of Straight, Heterosexual people who still don't reproduce. I think being opposed to something like Homosexuality is quite sad, as it doesn't hurt you. It's a choice, and whether you like it or not, some people make it, just as somebody chooses purple as their favourite colour. Please don't act like there is much of a difference, as it doesn't make any difference to you. The OP's argument isn't correct, either. Genocide is killing, but within Homosexuality, nothing is ever created to be killed.

That's a hell lot of assumptions that there'll always be heterosexuals producing many children (at least 3).

I'll agree with this statement.

Why? on what scientific basis (as genetics is a science)?

 

[raziaex]

Saying that homosexuality of governed by genetics is simply ridiculous.

 

[Meeder1]

How would you know if genetics didn't cause homosexuality?

Or is it just an extreme coincidence that 99% of homosexual people say that it does? I think not.

 

[raziaex]

Oh really now, 99% of homosexuals say it does? Where is your evidence for this?
How would I know? I have a thorough understanding of genetics through both high school biology as well as university biomedical engineering. Lol?

 

[malakadang]

How would you know if genetics didn't cause homosexuality?

Or is it just an extreme coincidence that 99% of homosexual people say that it does? I think not.

Fallacy - Appeal to popularity.

http://www.islamawareness.net/Homosexuality/bornorbred.pdf

An extract:

"Conclusion
Determining whether something has a biological cause is difficult, and locating a specifically
genetic link is even more so. The handful of studies that purportedly add up to incontestable
“proof” that homosexuals are “born that way” are inconclusive at best and, as Dr. Rahman notes,
“largely correlational in nature.” In some cases, such as the twins studies, the evidence strongly
indicates that early environment is more likely the dominant factor to have produced homosexual
desires."

99% of people simply blame their homosexuality for something that is out of their control... convenient.
I guess 99% of people in jail didn't commit their crimes either.

 

[raziaex]

Fallacy - Appeal to popularity.

http://www.islamawareness.net/Homosexuality/bornorbred.pdf

An extract:

"Conclusion
Determining whether something has a biological cause is difficult, and locating a specifically
genetic link is even more so. The handful of studies that purportedly add up to incontestable
“proof” that homosexuals are “born that way” are inconclusive at best and, as Dr. Rahman notes,
“largely correlational in nature.” In some cases, such as the twins studies, the evidence strongly
indicates that early environment is more likely the dominant factor to have produced homosexual
desires."

99% of people simply blame their homosexuality for something that is out of their control... convenient.
I guess 99% of people in jail didn't commit their crimes either.

This is the shizz bro; i like the way you argue

 

[Insidious Insinuations]

How would you know if genetics didn't cause homosexuality?

Or is it just an extreme coincidence that 99% of homosexual people say that it does? I think not.

That doesn't PROVE it.

Tons of Christians say that they've spoken with god directly 'last night' but does that make it so?

This is the shizz bro; i like the way you argue

And you can too, educating yourself is the way to go.

 

[KingCrackerJacks]

i have no problem, nearly every homosexual ive spoken to says that they didnt choose to be homosexual.
how am i to judge what they cant choose?

 

[malakadang]

i have no problem, nearly every homosexual ive spoken to says that they didnt choose to be homosexual.
how am i to judge what they cant choose?

I am God, I didn't want to be, but I am.
How are you to judge me for something that I can't choose?

 

[C4 dude]

I personally have no problems with homosexual people unless they try something on me.

Its their choice to be homosexual or not. People find reasons to discriminate against others, and this is one of them.

 

[malakadang]

What isn't okay about homosexuality? They were born gay, the same way you were born autistic.

There is no evidence that homosexuality is genetic, have you not read this thread?

 

[malakadang]

Please refer to this post

Are you serious...

THERE IS NOTHING, that suggests that homosexuality is genetic.

"most people experience little or no sense of choice about their sexual orientation"

You have taken this COMPLETELY out of context.

No child gets a choice about how they are brought up.

I cannot choose my parents, and my parents can only choose to have a child. I cannot determine whether they will be rich or poor, fat or skinny, smart or dumb, famous or not.

This doesn't make it genetic.


Now please, find me something that at least has the word "genetic" on its page. That Wikipedia page didn't even have that word.

 

[malakadang]

Bolded parts indicate why you're an idiot:

Educate them and bring them up open minded for a wealthy, well rounded adult

Make them read books for a 'smart' child

Bring them up on music and arts and push them to talent scouts for fame

Fact: you can't find me one legitimately gay person who chose to be gay. NONE of my friends or relatives chose to be gay. XeD didn't choose to be gay. It's genetic, you daft naive cunt. Prove me otherwise.

Where to start...

Educating someone to be open minded is not genetic.
Making a child read books to be smart is not genetic.
Same for your arts + music point.

You've just admitted what I was about to say.

http://www.islamawareness.net/Homose...bornorbred.pdf

An extract:

"Conclusion
Determining whether something has a biological cause is difficult, and locating a specifically
genetic link is even more so. The handful of studies that purportedly add up to incontestable
“proof” that homosexuals are “born that way” are inconclusive at best and, as Dr. Rahman notes,
“largely correlational in nature.” In some cases, such as the twins studies, the evidence strongly
indicates that early environment is more likely the dominant factor to have produced homosexual
desires."

Fact: you can't find me one legitimately gay person who chose to be gay. NONE of my friends or relatives chose to be gay. XeD didn't choose to be gay. It's genetic, you daft naive cunt. Prove me otherwise.

Fallacy - Appeal to popularity.
Fallacy - Proving a negative.
I could include more but those are the 2 main ones.

99% of people simply blame their homosexuality for something that is out of their control... convenient.
I guess 99% of people in jail didn't commit their crimes either.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation#Empirical_studies

http://www.islamawareness.net/Homose...bornorbred.pdf