Do you believe when you die that....

[Poker Player]

Well its how i think of it i really cant explaine it NOBODY knows what happens when you die i just THINK that happens.

Why do you think that way or what makes you think?

 

[Arya]

Well of course you aint reborn RIGHT AWAY. This is what i believe.

So you believe in delayed reincarnation? When you die, your "soul" searches for another body that's about to become alive, and possesses it? Oh, okay.

I hope you realize that religion = faith, they choose what they want to believe, because we will never know what happens after death.

Personally, I try not to worry about it, if I lived a good life, and the Big Man is proud of me, everything's good. And vice versa.

We all realize that religion = bs, I mean, faith. >.<

I believe that you loose your conciousness, just like in a very deep sleep and that's it. Then your body starts to rot and you're gone, just like before you were born.

Before you were born, you were, essentially, nothing. When you die, you are dust > bones > ect.

If you don't know that it's true, why are you using it as evidence in a debate?

Furthermore, I believe that when you die you either go to Heaven or Hell, depending on whether or not you have accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior.

The burden of ultimate proof is upon the believer.

You're reciting what your pastor says. You don't know anything about your religion except that if it's true, you go to a place called heaven.

Personally, Jesus didn't save you. Jesus didn't know you personally. Jesus isn't there when you need saving, now is he? Personally, when someone says "Jesus is my personal savior", I personally want to puke. That's just me, though.

i beleve when we die, god takes up to his house and we all live happyly but if were bad we die and go to gods evil bros house aka the satan

God must have a lot of space in his house.

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It's extremely difficult to debate on subjective subjects.

 

[Arya]

god makes his house as big as he wants. look at how big he made universe

Prove that he made the universe.

 

[Rigged]

When you die, you are usually put into a casket and buried into the ground. Then, you rot and your skin wears away, leaving only bones. All while this is happening, you have no thoughts, no meaning, no emotion, no soul, because you are dead.

The end.

 

[Damien0124]

lol... look around u, the bible, other stuff. i dont have time to argue against ur scientific facts,

i seen my prayer come true before[/QUOTE]
I always wanted to say this: argumentum ad ignorantiam.
And if you don't have the time to argue against scientific facts, you should leave SFA now and never return.

i seen my prayer come true before

Also, watch this please:

[youtube]jk6ILZAaAMI[/youtube]

And at everybody: You cannot prove what happens after you die, the closest you can get are the experiences of people who were dead for several minutes and came back to life...

 

[JIM TIM JOHN]

You're reciting what your pastor says. You don't know anything about your religion except that if it's true, you go to a place called heaven.

Personally, Jesus didn't save you. Jesus didn't know you personally. Jesus isn't there when you need saving, now is he? Personally, when someone says "Jesus is my personal savior", I personally want to puke. That's just me, though.

You should not make assumptions. I know tons about my religion, a lot more than you know judging by your post. I am not the usual ignorant SFA-goer.

Yes, Jesus did not save me personally, he saved the world. "Personal" refers to the personal relationship I have with him that is unique to anyone else.

I forgive you for your assumptive and illogical post.

 

[Ganzta-Freak]

Iv heard storys of this one grandma that she died and then she was reborn and at 10 years old or so , she remembered being a grandma ! remembered her WHOLE childhood how crazy is that...

Stories. I've heard that some people have seen UFO's land on Earth. Doesn't make it true.

My theory is that we won't feel anything anymore, we won't see, we can't hear, we can't move, we don't have any senses. We just see a black vision, and time goes faster.

That would SUCK, honestly. Just lying doing nothing, seeing nothing.

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Also, guys. Can you please stop asking for proof on everything? The thread asks what you believe. Not what you know and can proove.

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Personally, I have no freaking idea. I don't think we'll be able to feel or see what's happening when we are dead.

 

[Arya]

You should not make assumptions. I know tons about my religion, a lot more than you know judging by your post. I am not the usual ignorant SFA-goer.

Yes, Jesus did not save me personally, he saved the world. "Personal" refers to the personal relationship I have with him that is unique to anyone else.

I forgive you for your assumptive and illogical post.

See, I don't usually make assumptions, but i'll assume that you're just speaking out of thin air. What exactly do you know about your religion? Apparently not enough to see the contradictions of your own "God-Proving" bible.

Oh, trust me, you are.

Jesus died to do what?
Answer that.
Then tell me if it worked.

Nothing about your religion is logical.
I forgive you, though.

Stories. I've heard that some people have seen UFO's land on Earth. Doesn't make it true.



That would SUCK, honestly. Just lying doing nothing, seeing nothing.

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Also, guys. Can you please stop asking for proof on everything? The thread asks what you believe. Not what you know and can proove.

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Personally, I have no freaking idea. I don't think we'll be able to feel or see what's happening when we are dead.

How would it suck? That would, I suppose, be categorized into an emotion, and since I think it's safe to assume that you don't have emotions when you're dead, thinking that something sucked wouldn't really be an option.

Sure, though, it sucks thinking about it while you're still alive.

The sole purpose of this forum and ultimately every thread that is made is to discuss and debate intelligently. It's kind of hard to debate on such a subjective topic as religion while not asking for proof on the things that people say. Nonetheless, and therefore, it IS a debate forum, so don't ask us not to debate in it.

 

[Swan]

@Swan

You cannot prove what happens after you die.

My point exactly, however the burden of proof lies with whomever pitches an affirmative argument. If I'm to state that there is a teapot orbiting Saturn right now, you'd likely think me ridiculous unless you had empirical evidence to prove such a thing.

I hope you realize that religion = faith, they choose what they want to believe, because we will never know what happens after death.

See the above. However, blind faith is irrational. Most people should think of at least one reason why they are with a particular religion, rather than blind faith on the basis of what they hear in their goddam church.

 

[Hawt Fry]

I haven't been given proof of there being any sort of life after death throughout my life, nor any sort of signal, which leads me to believe ('believe' is a term one can use without providing proof) that there is no life after death.

Disregarding my lack of belief, it is perhaps a logical impossibility. Life after death is paradoxical.

I agree theres been no 100% proof but idk things tell me life after death.

 

[King Klutz]

Interesting how you would believe in a 10 year old girl stating that she's reincarnated when my Asian friend who scored a 320 on his math portion of the SAT won't believe me when I say he's not getting accepted into UC Berkeley. Eh, the idea of reincarnation is plausible, and I guess the idea of a deity is too. However, that's all it is, and we'll probably never know, at least not in our lifetimes.

 

[Arya]

Interesting how you would believe in a 10 year old girl stating that she's reincarnated when my Asian friend who scored a 320 on his math portion of the SAT won't believe me when I say he's not getting accepted into UC Berkeley. Eh, the idea of reincarnation is plausible, and I guess the idea of a deity is too. However, that's all it is, and we'll probably never know, at least not in our lifetimes.

That comparison makes no sense. >.<
That's like saying it's special how one person believes one thing and another person believe another thing.

How does something with no validity, no rational standpoint as which to access the concept of logic, and all around no common sense even begin to seem plausible?

Explain your self.

 

[balendor]

There is no way to prove that there is a God and/or a Devil. There is no way to prove that there is heaven and hell. Seriously...Its what people believe in. truly i don't believe in anything just because it all seems like bullshit to me.
Its very hard know and days to prove something is right because alot of times it can be complete bullshit. just like the old woman supposed kid said she was a re-incarnation. the one post could be right? how do they know she wasn't psycho? or had a mental problem? or wasn't just plain fucked in the head?

And to the topic thing.
I believe you just die. Are in a huge black empty space and you just float there starting at nothing. THAT
or are souls rise up and we can see everyone and the other spirits but they can't see us. Swan, Arya,King Klutz and some more make interesting points as i have seen..but even then no one will know what happens when you die.

Like i said before i believe one of those two things will happen. i can't prove that but thats just me. shit happens where everyone has diffren't opinions and thats that.

 

[JIM TIM JOHN]

See, I don't usually make assumptions, but i'll assume that you're just speaking out of thin air. What exactly do you know about your religion? Apparently not enough to see the contradictions of your own "God-Proving" bible.

Oh, trust me, you are.

Jesus died to do what?
Answer that.
Then tell me if it worked.

Nothing about your religion is logical.
I forgive you, though.

I know a lot about my religion. More than you if you don't think that it makes sense. The Bible is not "God-Proving," nor did I ever say it was.

No I am not.

Jesus died as the ultimate sacrifice for our sins allowing God the Father to forgive them once and for all.
Yes. It did work.

Everything about my religion is logical.
I do not need forgiving from you. I did nothing wrong to you.

Your voice is one of ignorance.

 

[Arya]

I know a lot about my religion. More than you if you don't think that it makes sense. The Bible is not "God-Proving," nor did I ever say it was.

No I am not.

Jesus died as the ultimate sacrifice for our sins allowing God the Father to forgive them once and for all.
Yes. It did work.

Everything about my religion is logical.
I do not need forgiving from you. I did nothing wrong to you.

Your voice is one of ignorance.

Hm?
This part is going nowhere.
If you truly think you do, however, add me on MSN.
I would be so grateful if you were to humor me. >.<

Everything about your religion is logical?

Like the fact that a being created himself, in six days, created a never ending universe. Is known to be able to do all, yet he cannot, or for a more malevolent term, will not stop evil. Can not get over a silly emotion in which I've seen humans get over. Uses a book with imaginary stories in it to help humans prove his existence, among other things.

We have no proof that a God exist. You believe that a God exist because your church tells you to, or you've been brought up to believe so.

Most churches even have it to where there members give them money in the 'Name of Jesus!'
Wow.

Trust me, your religion is very logical.

Why don't you look at that 'Jug of Milk' youtube video, and then come back.

 

[JIM TIM JOHN]

Hm?
This part is going nowhere.
If you truly think you do, however, add me on MSN.
I would be so grateful if you were to humor me. >.<

Everything about your religion is logical?

Like the fact that a being created himself, in six days, created a never ending universe. Is known to be able to do all, yet he cannot, or for a more malevolent term, will not stop evil. Can not get over a silly emotion in which I've seen humans get over. Uses a book with imaginary stories in it to help humans prove his existence, among other things.

We have no proof that a God exist. You believe that a God exist because your church tells you to, or you've been brought up to believe so.

Most churches even have it to where there members give them money in the 'Name of Jesus!'
Wow.

Trust me, your religion is very logical.

Why don't you look at that 'Jug of Milk' youtube video, and then come back.

I would be glad to humor you if you would be so kind as to grace me with your MSN address.

 

[dragonfire455]

I believe that when we die, we either go into the Astral Plane or Heaven / Hell.



100th post btw.

 

[FreedomFight]

I haven't been given proof of there being any sort of life after death throughout my life, nor any sort of signal, which leads me to believe ('believe' is a term one can use without providing proof) that there is no life after death.

Disregarding my lack of belief, it is perhaps a logical impossibility. Life after death is paradoxical.

It's a paradoxical, yet incomprehensible. That is to say, to be thinking about what occurs after death, one would have to be in a state in which thinking can still occur.

The afterlife was a simple solution to this incomprehension. Heaven and hell were merely creations designed to control the masses.

 

[FreedomFight]

I know a lot about my religion. More than you if you don't think that it makes sense. The Bible is not "God-Proving," nor did I ever say it was.

No I am not.

Jesus died as the ultimate sacrifice for our sins allowing God the Father to forgive them once and for all.
Yes. It did work.

Everything about my religion is logical.
I do not need forgiving from you. I did nothing wrong to you.

Your voice is one of ignorance.

Beginning with the bible is NOT God-proving, and God is NOT bible-proving - we conclude: one must have "faith" that God exists, and "faith" that the bible describes God.

Blind faith is illogical. Organized religion is paradoxical.

 

[Fictional]

Beginning with the bible is NOT God-proving, and God is NOT bible-proving - we conclude: one must have "faith" that God exists, and "faith" that the bible describes God.

Blind faith is illogical. Organized religion is paradoxical.

Amen, Its all about our faith in our God that can save us after life.