Why do you believe in God?

[aus aaz]

I once believed in god and went to youth group an that when i was young, but as i grew old i seen that even if they do exist it is the backbone of most of the fighting in the world + when i got even more older, i noticed if god does exist why are there millions of people starving, and why does he let sick fucks who preach his wonders molest little boys thats only the tip of the iceberg.

For all those that are going to say "oh god is punishing us for what adem an eve did like 2000 years ago" .. bro it was 2000 years ago, get over it.

If gods bible, or the jews whatever they read, or the arabs qauran was fact or anything why are the banks allowed to charge interest on money lent out, when stated in all of these book (i dont know where exactly) that it is a SIN agaisnt god. Why havnt these mystical banker CEO been struck by lightening or hit by a car yet?

Im not here to argue but seriously, every person is entitled to believe in a higher power but for me believing in myself is better then believing in jesus.

No i didnt Big J or G for god or jesus.

 

[blazinfasstt]

Why I beleive in a God ?
I was raised as a Christian.

Why I still beleive in a God ?
Nothing comes close to the creation of the universe other than a God.

http://www.remnantofgod.org/creation.htm
Evoulution proven wrong ?

they say that modern growth rates of the world population is 2%
they say that it is "practical" to take half of this growth rate and apply it to all of human history.
this has obvious flaws.
instead of making actual calculations they try to fit the data to their history of man by creating an algorithm.
they simplify all of the epidemics, major disasters, migrations, population booms into:
"Wars, disease, famine, etc. have wiped out approximately one third of the population on average every 82 years"

also, they dont say why half of the modern growth rate is "practical".




A living cell is so awesomely complex that its interdependent components stagger the imagination and defy evolutionary explanations. A minimal cell contains over 60,000 proteins of 100 different configurations.16 The chance of this assemblage occurring by chance is 1 in 10 4,478,296 .17

-this is retarded
- just because something is complex does not mean it was created by god


"But you, Daniel, keep this prophecy a secret; seal up the book until the time of the end, when many will rush here and there, and knowledge will increase."
-apparently this is where man stole the idea of rapid transportation

"Can you send forth lightnings, that they may go and say to you, ‘Here we are’?"
- this is where man stole the idea for electrical transformation of information

"But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare."
- this is where man got the idea of atomic disintegration

"He makes nations great, and destroys them;

he enlarges nations, and disperses them.

24He deprives the leaders of the earth of their reason;

he sends them wandering through a trackless waste.

25They grope in darkness with no light;

he makes them stagger like drunkards. "
- this is where man stole the discovery of the caveman from.





"The human brain is the most complicated structure in the known universe.18 It contains over 100 billion cells, each with over 50,000 neuron connections to other brain cells.19 This structure receives over 100 million separate signals from the total human body every second. If we learned something new every second of our lives, it would take three million years to exhaust the capacity of the human brain. 20 In addition to conscious thought, people can actually reason, anticipate consequences, and devise plans – all without knowing they are doing so.21"
-apparently this disproves evolution.


"If we learned something new every second of our lives, it would take three million years to exhaust the capacity of the human brain." -Wonders of God's Creation, Moody Video Series

Ok.. let me get this straight. The Word of God says we were created with Human bodies that are designed to live forever. Science has recently proven that if we were to learn something new every second, we would take well over 3 millions years to exhaust the memory capacity of our "post flood" brains. (Pre-flood brains were 3 times larger) On the other hand... Evolutionists say things evolve after there is a need for change.

Question... How is it possible for us to have a brain that could hold enough info to last over 3 millions years, when all we can live up to is 90 years?"

things wrong
- he got his info from "Wonders of God's Creation, Moody Video Series"
- science has not "proven" that
- it does not take aging into account
- sure, at age 20, when we are at our peak, we may learn things with greater ease. as we grow older it may take more mental resources to compensate.
- we do learn faster than: learn 1 thing = pass one second
as it says in the same page: " In addition to conscious thought, people can actually reason, anticipate consequences, and devise plans – all without knowing they are doing so."
it gives the brain enormous credit on the same page while simultaneously limiting it to learning 1 thing per 1 second.

 

[master414]

I believe in God because without one, we wouldn't exist? I think God really does exist.

 

[tiger9110]

Gives me some reason to keep living.

 

[BrickSquad`]

Why not, I got nothing better to beleive in.

 

[SuF]

I believe in God because without one, we wouldn't exist? I think God really does exist.

Why not? Organic molecules can form through electricity flowing through water with the right elements. These elements were in abundance when life is said to have been formed. Evolution over the last 4,500,000,000 or 3,800,000,000 years would have easily come to us.

Gives me some reason to keep living.

If you die you go to heaven. Why would you want to stay on Earth any longer than you have to?

 

[Andre8Johnson0]

um...

 

[Parox]

they say that modern growth rates of the world population is 2%
they say that it is "practical" to take half of this growth rate and apply it to all of human history.
this has obvious flaws.
instead of making actual calculations they try to fit the data to their history of man by creating an algorithm.
they simplify all of the epidemics, major disasters, migrations, population booms into:
"Wars, disease, famine, etc. have wiped out approximately one third of the population on average every 82 years"

also, they dont say why half of the modern growth rate is "practical".




A living cell is so awesomely complex that its interdependent components stagger the imagination and defy evolutionary explanations. A minimal cell contains over 60,000 proteins of 100 different configurations.16 The chance of this assemblage occurring by chance is 1 in 10 4,478,296 .17

-this is retarded
- just because something is complex does not mean it was created by god


"But you, Daniel, keep this prophecy a secret; seal up the book until the time of the end, when many will rush here and there, and knowledge will increase."
-apparently this is where man stole the idea of rapid transportation

"Can you send forth lightnings, that they may go and say to you, ‘Here we are’?"
- this is where man stole the idea for electrical transformation of information

"But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare."
- this is where man got the idea of atomic disintegration

"He makes nations great, and destroys them;

he enlarges nations, and disperses them.

24He deprives the leaders of the earth of their reason;

he sends them wandering through a trackless waste.

25They grope in darkness with no light;

he makes them stagger like drunkards. "
- this is where man stole the discovery of the caveman from.





"The human brain is the most complicated structure in the known universe.18 It contains over 100 billion cells, each with over 50,000 neuron connections to other brain cells.19 This structure receives over 100 million separate signals from the total human body every second. If we learned something new every second of our lives, it would take three million years to exhaust the capacity of the human brain. 20 In addition to conscious thought, people can actually reason, anticipate consequences, and devise plans – all without knowing they are doing so.21"
-apparently this disproves evolution.


"If we learned something new every second of our lives, it would take three million years to exhaust the capacity of the human brain." -Wonders of God's Creation, Moody Video Series

Ok.. let me get this straight. The Word of God says we were created with Human bodies that are designed to live forever. Science has recently proven that if we were to learn something new every second, we would take well over 3 millions years to exhaust the memory capacity of our "post flood" brains. (Pre-flood brains were 3 times larger) On the other hand... Evolutionists say things evolve after there is a need for change.

Question... How is it possible for us to have a brain that could hold enough info to last over 3 millions years, when all we can live up to is 90 years?"

things wrong
- he got his info from "Wonders of God's Creation, Moody Video Series"
- science has not "proven" that
- it does not take aging into account
- sure, at age 20, when we are at our peak, we may learn things with greater ease. as we grow older it may take more mental resources to compensate.
- we do learn faster than: learn 1 thing = pass one second
as it says in the same page: " In addition to conscious thought, people can actually reason, anticipate consequences, and devise plans – all without knowing they are doing so."
it gives the brain enormous credit on the same page while simultaneously limiting it to learning 1 thing per 1 second.

Even if it wouldnt take 3 million years it would take well over 90 years to do so. Therefore there would be no need to have the brain capacity we have according to the theory of evolution.

And what do you mean by it`s retarded. Something is not retarded just because its proven a theory wrong.

Evolution is a theory and so is God.
Unfotunately we can only find out when we die.
Beleiving in god is better than dying with no hope.

 

[SuF]

Even if it wouldnt take 3 million years it would take well over 90 years to do so. Therefore there would be no need to have the brain capacity we have according to the theory of evolution.

And what do you mean by it`s retarded. Something is not retarded just because its proven a theory wrong.

Evolution is a theory and so is God.
Unfotunately we can only find out when we die.
Beleiving in god is better than dying with no hope.

How long it takes to fill up a brain does not matter. Take a look at this: http://www.iupui.edu/~mstd/a103/Hominid Summary List.htm. Just pay attention to brain size and the year of the fossil. You will see a trend of larger brain sizes as these fossils approach present day. This means that a larger brain size must have been helping these creatures survive or they would not have developed them.

A theory in everyday use is not the same as a scientific theory.

A scientific theory comprises a collection of concepts, including abstractions of observable phenomena expressed as quantifiable properties, together with rules (called scientific laws) that express relationships between observations of such concepts. A scientific theory is constructed to conform to available empirical data about such observations, and is put forth as a principle or body of principles for explaining a class of phenomena.

Being a theory does NOT make something less likely to be true and thus what you have said is a fallacy. Gravity is a theory. You can not prove it exists. You can not prove anything and thus everything in science is, using the common usage definition, a theory.

I do not believe in a god as there is no justification for that belief for me.

 

[Parox]

How long it takes to fill up a brain does not matter. Take a look at this: http://www.iupui.edu/~mstd/a103/Hominid Summary List.htm. Just pay attention to brain size and the year of the fossil. You will see a trend of larger brain sizes as these fossils approach present day. This means that a larger brain size must have been helping these creatures survive or they would not have developed them.

A theory in everyday use is not the same as a scientific theory.



Being a theory does NOT make something less likely to be true and thus what you have said is a fallacy. Gravity is a theory. You can not prove it exists. You can not prove anything and thus everything in science is, using the common usage definition, a theory.

I do not believe in a god as there is no justification for that belief for me.

If you take a look there was years before that the barin size was larger, so a larger brain size was not helping thems survive.

Also, can you please explain why there are no transistional fossils in the world.
If evoultion existed there should be half apes half humans right.
But there isnt.

 

[Pakistani]

I believe in god because it gives me somebody to blame for the way I was born.

 

[SuF]

If you take a look there was years before that the barin size was larger, so a larger brain size was not helping thems survive.

Also, can you please explain why there are no transistional fossils in the world.
If evoultion existed there should be half apes half humans right.
But there isnt.

You have misunderstood evolution. There will never be a perfectly linear progression of any trait. Through a combination of random chance and natural selection the general trend changes, in this case brain size.

There is a ton of missing data in that graph due to fossils being extremely rare. It takes very special circumstances for fossils to form and certain areas are better suited to form fossils than others. Thus, the fossil record will never be complete. In regards to your question, there are some transitional fossils. I do not know any of the names of them offhand so I really can not find any articles about it.

However the existence of transitional fossils is even more rare and many may not exist. There is no specific point where a certain species becomes a new one and what seems like variations between the same species may actually be two distinct species. There is also a hypothesis about extremely fast evolution (in terms of evolutionary time, so you are still counting in thousands of years), due to extreme changes in environment.

Take Darwin's finches. Some have big beaks for breaking big nuts. Some have little beaks for eating little nuts. If there is a change and there is suddenly more big nuts, those with the little beaks will die out. If this is applied at a larger scale over an extended period of time more major changes can occur. This fast evolution limits the amount of time for which fossils can be made. Due to the rarity of them already, transitional fossils that can only be formed in a few thousand year window are extremely, extremely rare.

There is also no reason why the fossils should be "half humans". Evolution is not moving in any set direction. It is not perfecting creatures. It is a process driven by random chance mutations and natural selection. Thus the most common Ape - Human ancestor may look nothing like a half human or half ape.

 

[plate]

I wouldn't say "He exists" rather "He is" because when you say "He exists" you're saying that there was a time when God did not exist, and this is not what theist, like myself, believe. I believe there is there is a God that He's surely alive.

 

[Idcboutu]

I believe in god because if you look at the whole scenario, who created the human kind? You may say Adam and Eve... but my next question is, who created the galaxy? The last question basically proves there is only one God that can do all this.

 

[raziaex]

I believe in god because if you look at the whole scenario, who created the human kind? You may say Adam and Eve... but my next question is, who created the galaxy? The last question basically proves there is only one God that can do all this.

Logical fallacy at its best.
'Who created the galaxy'?
No one did. Think about it. It wasn't the work of a single entity...
Proves that there is only one God that can do all this? How?
You basically stated this.
If X, then Y. WTF????

 

[Parox]

You have misunderstood evolution. There will never be a perfectly linear progression of any trait. Through a combination of random chance and natural selection the general trend changes, in this case brain size.

There is a ton of missing data in that graph due to fossils being extremely rare. It takes very special circumstances for fossils to form and certain areas are better suited to form fossils than others. Thus, the fossil record will never be complete. In regards to your question, there are some transitional fossils. I do not know any of the names of them offhand so I really can not find any articles about it.

However the existence of transitional fossils is even more rare and many may not exist. There is no specific point where a certain species becomes a new one and what seems like variations between the same species may actually be two distinct species. There is also a hypothesis about extremely fast evolution (in terms of evolutionary time, so you are still counting in thousands of years), due to extreme changes in environment.

Take Darwin's finches. Some have big beaks for breaking big nuts. Some have little beaks for eating little nuts. If there is a change and there is suddenly more big nuts, those with the little beaks will die out. If this is applied at a larger scale over an extended period of time more major changes can occur. This fast evolution limits the amount of time for which fossils can be made. Due to the rarity of them already, transitional fossils that can only be formed in a few thousand year window are extremely, extremely rare.

There is also no reason why the fossils should be "half humans". Evolution is not moving in any set direction. It is not perfecting creatures. It is a process driven by random chance mutations and natural selection. Thus the most common Ape - Human ancestor may look nothing like a half human or half ape.

You're basically saying that when a mutation occurs it changes the feautures of a creature significantly which is wrong. The theory states that evoulution goes through small changes such as a larger ear. An ape doesn't magically transform into a human, even if it did it would look so different from an ape it wouldn't be looked as a "fit" mate. So you still cannot prove why there is no fossils of half humans or half apes or any living creature that is half something half something else. Also when you mix breed the offspring will never be able to reproduce which also helps disprove evolution.

The reason why you cannot find an article is because there is no article about transitional fossils being discovered.

 

[Jimmy]

You're basically saying that when a mutation occurs it changes the feautures of a creature significantly which is wrong. The theory states that evoulution goes through small changes such as a larger ear.

Yes, this is exactly what he said with the example of Darwin's finches.

An ape doesn't magically transform into a human, even if it did it would look so different from an ape it wouldn't be looked as a "fit" mate.

You just said that evolution is the cumulative change over large amounts of time, however you're now saying that small amounts of variation would make an animal unfit to be a mate?

So you still cannot prove why there is no fossils of half humans or half apes or any living creature that is half something half something else. Also when you mix breed the offspring will never be able to reproduce which also helps disprove evolution.

Evolution doesn't predict that there would have existed an ape-man, rather, it would predict that somewhere in the past humans and apes shared a common ancestor. Also, your claim that speciation disproves evolution is quite frankly absurd.

The reason why you cannot find an article is because there is no article about transitional fossils being discovered.

No such thing as a transitional form? Really..?

The evolution of birds, whales, and man is/are extremely well documented.

 

[malakadang]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_transitional_fossils

http://www.transitionalfossils.com/#humans

 

[raziaex]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Begging_the_question Your genius assertion can be concisely invalidated. In fact, even in 350 BC you would have been considered dumb. Congratulations you've committed a fallacy that's been publicly identified for over 2000 years.

And your point is???
Honestly are you trolling?
You say his assertion can be 'concisely invalidated'.
Then INVALIDATE it you tool, instead of degrading him with ad hominem attacks.

 

[raziaex]

Hmmmm ok i'll have to look back at that