Why do you believe in God?

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Why do you believe in God?
  1. Unread #281 - Apr 28, 2011 at 12:49 AM
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    Why do you believe in God?

    For me, it's a few things.

    I guess faith is a big factor. It's not called faith for nothing, you are putting yourself out there and taking a leap.

    Second, everything seems to fit together if you look at it from a view of God existing, at least for me. Often times Atheist's will have arguments against why God must be fake, but when I look at it from my point of perspective it all makes sense. Plus many personal arguments with atheists have revealed a simple misinterpretation of the bible.

    Third, my life. This is probably the biggest thing I have to go on. But let me tell you, whenever I have been at my spiritual peaks in life, I have always enjoyed life to the fullest and everything went well. I've noticed that when I'm veering away from God things start to crumble and my life takes a plunge. It's amazing what Christ will do to you.
     
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    Why do you believe in God?

    Agree, however many religions often neglect that it is simply a faith, and instead assert it to be a truth.

    Just because something makes sense, doesn't mean it's the truth or factual. Examples of such misinterpretations would be good.

    Placebo effect.
     
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    Why do you believe in God?

    I have personal beliefs about after life and god that don't involve organized religion.
     
  7. Unread #284 - May 6, 2011 at 3:29 AM
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    Why do you believe in God?

    Firstly for anyone answering this question, does your “hard hearts” allow you to research into the religions of monotheism of this world?
    The understanding and having an open heart to really try find the truth, is the key issue to going about finding the answers to your question. When I say open heart I do not mean, you now need “faith” or some sort. Yet, rather a religion such as Islam can answer many of the questions of whether you’re an atheism, polytheism or monotheism believing person.
    We all have our job roles and our life styles, so explain to me how the Quran can satisfy all these criteria for all the different people that existed yesterday and today. I’m talking for example the scientist wants some proof of the existence of god, therefore – Allah (God) has provided mankind of scientific proof that has been discovered and some of yet that has not been discovered.
    No way can I agree to the point or imagine believing that religion requires you to have “faith” only. If this was so, then why would the holy book such as the ‘Quran’ send out challenges to mankind and request them to not follow blindly rather see the many proof’s that “Allah” has sent throughout the ages and that of what is around us, everyday in our life.

    I would like to end this small answer with the following:

    “That of which you enjoy doing everyday, it is of that you are worshipping for surly it is far of more importance for you – the remembrance of the creator of everything itself. When the creations becomes far more superior to the creator, it is this then that it should start to make you wonder and it is for such people that truly never find truth, purpose of life and the existence of god”
    Worshipping the creation will lead you far astray and lead you to a sate of mind, which is controlled by forces best of what it’s doing today.

    Please look at this video “Reasoning the Existence of God”, if you even care to post on this thread and care to find answers.

    Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz1gbBJ59JY

    Also this video, explain very nicely on the way the world’s thinking of believing in God today is.

    Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2s14T6x5AM&feature=related

    Furthermore to proof my point of some you posting with "hard hearts" you would rather look for the little mistakes someone may have posted or contradicting themselves, rather then taking a useful comment that in the back of your mind should make you think to go and analyse further.

    Saying comments such as spelling or grammar errors is completely sad and who really cares? Let’s stay on the topic that is being asked. Saying such things such as that you say makes you a person that thinks’ is better then another and that such of a person just leads himself to destruction of his own heart and mind.

    Thanks.

    Edit: How is anyone even commenting about the facts that are in their mind’s that religion is like this and like that.
    When you don’t even have some sort of understanding of the fundamentals of religion.
     
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    Why do you believe in God?

    The first 2 of his 'fundamentals' I can agree upon.
    The third one, is a complete contradiction.

    He said, 'We don't find something coming from nothing'.
    Need I point out the contradiction?
    The only argument I've heard against this is that the creator is 'self sufficient', and infinite. Well, my parents created me, and their parents created them. If you'd like to prove this wrong, please be my guest.
    My grand parents are dead, rendering them not infinite and in turn not eternally self sufficient. My parents too will one day die, and as will I.

    God came from nothing, therefore something greater than God must've created him. O well now theres 2 Gods, bye bye monotheistic religions. Wait, now theres 3,4, an infinity amount of gods.

    He then says, everything is so perfect, therefore it must be God.
    Well I would say, everything is NOT perfect, and that also implies that God is not perfect, unless he was created by another higher being, not be chance.

    I stopped there.

    He is basically saying this:

    1+1 = 3

    However you must agree to these:

    2 is not a number in the sequential number pattern.
    3 comes after one, and is second inline sequentially.

    Therefore 1+1 = 3

    Ridiculous, you can prove anything if you must have these rules to follow.
     
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    Why do you believe in God?

    So, you’re indulging yourself to say there is infinite number of creators for everything is just a creation, meaning you are now entrapping yourself. But the proof is Allah (God) says his only 1 and there is no other god? Its part of the acceptance of saying there is no god but Allah (God) meaning one God only as he told us. So that cuts out the bye, bye to 2, 3 ,4 Gods as you mention, of polytheism practices.
    No idea how u came out with such logical pattern of the mathematic pattern of trying to proof a opinion of your understanding but you seem to have lost the context in which the guy was talking about (your reviewing the first video?) .

    To summarise Allah (God) has clearly stated the boundaries in which the logic sense operates. He is one, he has no partners and there is none like him.

    I’m confused to what you’re saying here, please elaborate on this point. But to what I think I understand. Even if humanity created itself as you might be saying here, so who created the first ever human being? And telling me its evolution is quite not the answer I would expect as it’s a theory and I like to talk about facts and logical sense only.

    It is here, that if you are not accepting that Allah (God) is the ONE and only creator and is not within the creation itself, only then you may make sense of things.

    The only thing I found constructive about your point above was the fact you do agree and have the understanding of death. So explain to me what is your understanding, after death? We live and we die and that is the end?

    Thanks.

    Edit: How is anyone even commenting about the facts that are in their mind’s that religion is like this and like that.
    When you don’t even have some sort of understanding of the fundamentals of religion.
     
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    Why do you believe in God?

    Yes the first video.
    I do not believe there are any creators, why can't the universe simply exist? I'm indulging myself in nothing other than your imagination.
    Proof of something that does not exist is not proof.
    It's like presents are only given to good children because thats what santa does.


    There is no Allah, you cannot say in an 'is god real' argument that god said this, as your already presupposing it's existence.



    Evolution. Read up the whole history of it. There wasn't a time where there were no human beings, and the next second a tribe of them.

    If you can only comprehend linear thinking then Allahs preachings can be rationale. I don't just think outside the box, there is no box.

    I have as much knowledge of death as you do. None.
    If you want to go by scientific observations, then I'll let it be known that we cannot observe the afterlife, for a) it may not exist, and b) it's like the 'Multiverse' theory.

    Elaborating.

    Premise: Something cannot come from nothing.
    Conclusion: God created everything, and thus God replaces the nothing, and makes this premise rationale.

    Contradiction: Who created God?

    If something cannot come from nothing, then where did God come from?
    Did he simply just exist, like what I proposed earlier to the universes existence?
     
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    Why do you believe in God?

    No, I do not believe in god. At least not in the traditional sense. I am pantheistic. Pantheism believes that god and the universe are identical. Most people who believe as I do tend to dislike the word 'god', however I find it hard to describe the feelings I get without using that word. My god is not a personal, creator, or anthropomorphic god. I believe we're all part of a larger universal reality that I am very happy to take part in. A lot of people I've discussed this with seem to think that you need some sort of hope for something better in order to live a happy life. I find that statement to be absolute garbage. I am not going to claim to know the purpose of life, but this next quote really means a lot if you look at it from the perspective of a pantheist or someone of similar ideals:

    "Matter flows from place to place, and momentarily comes together to be you." - Richard Dawkins

    We are made up of star stuff. Most of the atoms in your body were fused in a star some billions of years ago from nuclear fusion. Eventually, the very atoms that make up our bodies now will be thrown back into space to make up another star, or celestial body. It's a very deep and enriching thought, at least for me.

    The concept of a creator god is absurd and bred of ignorance if you ask me. Furthermore, a god that takes the time to come down and teach us to follow in his ways or burn for eternity is even more absurd when you consider the sheer scale of our vast and awesome universe. What we see of the universe is almost surely a very, very tiny fraction of all that there is in the universe. Still in all of what we can see, there are trillions of galaxies. All of which contain anywhere from 10 billion to 1 trillion stars. Are we really ignorant enough to think that we are the only life in just the OBSERVABLE universe, and then to assert that we are more worthy to have this 'god' grace us with his presence? Science teaches us to deal in facts, and the truth that those facts bear out. Science has shown no proof of such creator god, and I have the distinct belief that it never will. Creationism in the Christian sense can be summed up with this simple diagram:

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    ETC.. it just keeps looping in that endless logic that only makes sense to other creationists. The same concept can apply to nearly any other religion out there.

    The argument of living your life in the Christian faith in hopes you're right is an ignorant decision and a horrible waste of time. I have never understood this take on religion - if I devoted my entire life to something that I'm obviously not even sure of, I would feel like a moron. If you are willing to say you only believe because you don't want to be wrong, obviously there is at least a part of you that wants to scream out "this is bullshit", but you're too afraid of the fear mongering (oops - I mean all-loving) god that you're accustomed to.

    This world needs to leave the 2000 year old ideology in the past. The same spiritual fulfillment people get from religion CAN be found in science.

    edit: I have noticed a lot of theists clinging to the idea that evolution is "just a theory".. If that is the best you can do, seriously, do not post. By that logic, every single god and diety every conceived is a mere hypothesis, as there is ZERO evidence suggesting their existence.. evolution at least has a lot of very convincing data/evidence. Saying your holy book for whatever your preferred religion is is proof of their existence is not proof, read the diagram already posted above and apply it to your religion.
     
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