[Denied] Change to mod application

[Doled]

Can you consider lowering if not removing the post count minimum for staff appointments it should be about the quality of the posts and if they add value vs bump posts.

Thank you for reading.

 

No support because 1000 quality posts takes a while to get and it shows a commitment to the forums.

 

it shows a commitment to the forums.

No support.

 

I could see us slightly lowering the 1,000 PC requirement, when there are not enough eligible applicants and possibly even now, since a good argument can be made, that many donors active in the market use autobumper on a side account and people tend to post more on Discord.

 

meh I think 1000 posts is a pretty reasonable amount to get familiar with the forum / rules. Not sure I'd want someone "inexperienced" in a moderator position.

- Can't really gauge the person too well if they only have 100-200 posts, etc. I would assume that moderator applications are also based on some bias towards users who are well known in the community - as they should.

No support from me. sorry

 

"1k pc" shouldn't be a hard stop for anyone to apply imo, assuming that person has other qualifying attributes.

Applications should more or less outline a set of minimum requirements (which generally should be aimed at lowering the barrier for more people to apply), with a second set of recommend requirements which candidates can be evaluated against (this is where things like the 1k pc and other things can be listed as nice to haves - but not necessarily required).

That said, evaluating an application should ultimately happen holistically and if someone's acceptance/denial hinges on "DQ'ed cuz less than 1k posts lul" then that speaks more of the process than the applicants themselves

 

[Buyaccs69]

1k posts is good enough imo, shouldn’t be changed at all.

 

[Utopia]

It takes around 8 months to get 1k PC if you post around 4 times a day. If you’re an active market user, this feat wouldn’t be hard just by bumping threads alone. Auto bumpers do remove any lasting significance post count has on this site. There are users with 30k+ posts with most of it coming from auto bumpers I assume. There just isn’t enough to measure a person’s profile without taking into account their post count though. If the requirement was 5k post count, then I would be in favor of lowering it. 1k is not demanding enough to move the needle here.

 

Personally, I think all autobump posts shouldn’t be counted. Then the post count should be corrected and for every mod who doesn’t have the minimum requirement they should be removed from mod status.

 

[Robiiiiin]

meh I think 1000 posts is a pretty reasonable amount to get familiar with the forum / rules. Not sure I'd want someone "inexperienced" in a moderator position.

- Can't really gauge the person too well if they only have 100-200 posts, etc. I would assume that moderator applications are also based on some bias towards users who are well known in the community - as they should.

No support from me. sorry

Don't really have to post to be experienced, like myself i am more of a reader/browser and use countless hours here but don't really post as there isnt much quality to post on.

In theory i could BUMP for a shop and be considered but in honesty my PC is still 256.

 

If anything, I think the post count requirement should be increased.

At one time, 1K post count was actually an accomplishment and required some degree of significant community engagement. It’s much easier to get now than it was when originally added as a requirement.

1K post count is not hard to get, and really isn't a barrier to entry for mod applications.

Nowadays, there is another method of engaging with the community (discord), but there’s no good way to quantify involvement there.

No support.

 

[Doled]

So everyone is ok with 1k posts even if they are bumps?

 

never knew this was a requirement
wasnt meno/panda mod after like 50posts?

 

So everyone is ok with 1k posts even if they are bumps?

Yes.

I wish there was a better way to quantify level(s) of community engagement, but lowering or removing the post count requirement is the opposite of what I believe needs to happen. If anything, it should be increased due to autobumpers.

I would be in support of only counting non-bump posts towards the 1K app requirement, but that would take way too much effort to police. Plus, again, it doesn't take discord activity into account.

The mod application process requires a significant amount of quality input. It also requires applicants prove their "value" as you mentioned in your suggestion.

 

Yes.

I wish there was a better way to quantify level(s) of community engagement, but lowering or removing the post count requirement is the opposite of what I believe needs to happen. If anything, it should be increased due to autobumpers.

I would be in support of only counting non-bump posts towards the 1K app requirement, but that would take way too much effort to police. Plus, again, it doesn't take discord activity into account.

The mod application process requires a significant amount of quality input. It also requires applicants prove their "value" as you mentioned in your suggestion.

Where do you realistically expect someone to acquire 1k posts that isn't from autobumping market threads? Show me all of this organic discussion happening on Sythe forums in 2023 that isn't in RAS

 

Where do you realistically expect someone to acquire 1k posts that isn't from autobumping market threads? Show me all of this organic discussion happening on Sythe forums in 2023 that isn't in RAS

Two things:

1 - Read my first post on this thread.
2- I addressed this in both posts: a vast majority of Sythe's activity has moved to discord. Therefore, post count is not a good indicator of community engagement. As you're insinuating, post counts are ultimately irrelevant at this point, but I don't agree with removing the requirement. 1K is EXTREMELY easy to get, and anyone being considered for a mod position should have engaged with the marketplace enough, even if it's just through thread sales and bumps, to achieve 1K posts.

 

A:

If anything, I think the post count requirement should be increased.

B:

Therefore, post count is not a good indicator of community engagement

So... you're proposing to raise the post count requirement whilst simultaneously admitting it's a poor indicator of someone's community engagement? And i'm the special one? At least the irony isn't lost on you.

 

A:


B:


So... you're proposing to raise the post count requirement whilst simultaneously admitting it's a poor indicator of someone's community engagement? And i'm the special one? At least the irony isn't lost on you.

I didn't propose to raise the post count. I said that if anything, it should be raised because post count is extremely easy to obtain. The two are not synonymous unless viewed out of context. Do you have trouble comprehending the English language?

Let me reiterate, for you, again.

No support for this suggestion. While post count does not hold the value that it did prior to discord's introduction into the community, it still has marketplace merit. Post count is not a good indicator of community engagement, however, anyone being considered for a moderator position should have enough marketplace engagement (usually through bumping threads) to satisfy a bare minimum 1K forum posts requirement.

 

I didn't propose to raise the post count. I said that if anything, it should be raised because post count is extremely easy to obtain. The two are not synonymous unless viewed out of context. Do you have trouble comprehending the English language?

Let me reiterate, for you, again.

No support for this suggestion. While post count does not hold the value that it did prior to discord's introduction into the community, it still has marketplace merit. Post count is not a good indicator of community engagement, however, anyone being considered for a moderator position should have enough marketplace engagement (usually through bumping threads) to satisfy a bare minimum 1K forum posts requirement.

So is the goal for the moderator application to filter out people who don't bump their marketplace threads on an automated timer / multiple times a day?

 

[Doled]

Thank you everyone for your feedback supporting or not. One thing I am curious about is there are lots of people that do things behind the scenes for the forums such as free advertising and more I was hoping the lowered post count minimum would bring them out of the shadows are there any other solutions or exceptions to be made? How can someone reach 1000 quality posts when there is very low levels of thread activity? Just using myself as an example if I wanted to get 1k post count there would be few active threads without me grave digging to post in and if I do post in all the active threads many people would see it as spam or with just general disdain.