White/Black (Racism) Debate.

[p0oned y0u1]

Yea, it shouldn't be taken seriously, but tell that to all the black people at my school and that live near me. They still sell drugs, they still kill people. They kill people on a regular basis. This year there have been like 15 shootings that I know of right near my house. Almost all my friends do drugs or sell them, and I don't hang out with crap either. This is just the culture I live in. Not all my friends are black. A lot of them are white and still succumb to the black trend.

Racism is bad and all but black people and minorities take it WAY to far. Not getting a job because someone is more qualified is not racism. Saying that you are good at a sport because you are black or you sell drugs because your black is a racist comment because it is referring to there race being the reason that they are that way. That is the same with jobs. It is racist to higher/not higher someone because of there race.

If you higher a black man because he is black that is not defeating racism that is feeding it.

 

[Paul.]

Yea, it shouldn't be taken seriously, but tell that to all the black people at my school and that live near me. They still sell drugs, they still kill people. They kill people on a regular basis. This year there have been like 15 shootings that I know of right near my house. Almost all my friends do drugs or sell them, and I don't hang out with crap either. This is just the culture I live in. Not all my friends are black. A lot of them are white and still succumb to the black trend.

Racism is bad and all but black people and minorities take it WAY to far. Not getting a job because someone is more qualified is not racism. Saying that you are good at a sport because you are black or you sell drugs because your black is a racist comment because it is referring to there race being the reason that they are that way. That is the same with jobs. It is racist to higher/not higher someone because of there race.

If you higher a black man because he is black that is not defeating racism that is feeding it.

There is no "black trend". Its basically called being hood. If youre hood you have a different set up self-rules and a different mindstate to most of the people of other classes within the country.
And black isnt a race btw

One thing you might like to know is that my friend who is a native southern American on both sides of his family is lassified as an African American. No one in his bloodline is African and he'd most native to the USA than most people. So why is it that he is not an "American" like most of the white skinned population are and he is an "African American"?
The country has prejudice in itsself against non-white skinned people. This needs to go because the people of the country can start seeing a person rather than a colour of skin

 

[p0oned y0u1]

Yes, but they need to stop using skin color to there advantage. If you want to not be seen as a certain "color" then you shouldn't play the race card. Don't come up in here and think you have rights to something just because you are a certain color and then say we don't want to be treated differently because of our color, and don't say that you were treated unjustly because of your color when you use your color to get advantages over other people.

Color is a load of nonsense I agree. If you want to not be judged for your color then you should not get benefits for it either.

 

[Christmas Crackers]

well what can I say, I'm an Arab I don't really listen to rap haha

 

[tutoneppis]

Yes, but they need to stop using skin color to there advantage. If you want to not be seen as a certain "color" then you shouldn't play the race card. Don't come up in here and think you have rights to something just because you are a certain color and then say we don't want to be treated differently because of our color, and don't say that you were treated unjustly because of your color when you use your color to get advantages over other people.

Color is a load of nonsense I agree. If you want to not be judged for your color then you should not get benefits for it either.

You take it as if its directly impacted you!
Just dont give a shit about their skin colour and you can live fine.

 

[p0oned y0u1]

You take it as if its directly impacted you!
Just dont give a shit about their skin colour and you can live fine.

Do you know me?? No, you don't. You don't know how anything has affected anyone. So please don't go around judging other situations without knowing what you are talking about.

I don't care what there skin color is I care how they act about it, and how they are treated because of it. They are prejudged by it whether it be good or bad. So please make a less ignorant statement next time. I would rather not be insulted when I am trying to discuss something.

 

[MatthewGor123]

If an illegal immigrants is found commitinbg a crime your government owesit to you to deport them.
And as far as immigratio goes - illegal or legal; you should never blame the immigrants themselves. If you have any problem with immgration go and do something about it... contact people, join the KKK or w/e it takes you to stop opening your mouth instead of getting off your ass.
If your country had a bad economy and you were about to die of starvation you'd seek a better life too.

but this debate is supposed to be about racism - not immigration. If youre not pro-immigration then go and kill yourself because youre not a native American. I accept that too much immigration is bad but the immigrants often dont know or care what theyre getting themselves into. They just want to survive just as any human would

I know this isn't about immigration, but racism and immigration are closely related tbh. No, I'm not a Native American. My parents were immigrants; I am the first generation of my family to be born outside of the Soviet Union. Did they ever play the race card? No. They were Jews in Russia...they had way more racism surrounding them than any of the black or Mexican people in our country. Did they bitch about it? No. They got education, and were able to become successful. I'm not racist, but the Black people who bitch about how life "in the hood" sucks should shut up and take a look around, because they're not the only ones who have had generations of shit surrounding them.

And yes, I can bitch about how Mexicans come into our country and create problems because they're illegal. I'm 100% pro-immigration, even illegal-immigration, but I'm not pro-fuckingupcountries by creating gang wars and ruining the economy.

 

[Paul.]

I know this isn't about immigration, but racism and immigration are closely related tbh. No, I'm not a Native American. My parents were immigrants; I am the first generation of my family to be born outside of the Soviet Union. Did they ever play the race card? No. They were Jews in Russia...they had way more racism surrounding them than any of the black or Mexican people in our country. Did they bitch about it? No. They got education, and were able to become successful. I'm not racist, but the Black people who bitch about how life "in the hood" sucks should shut up and take a look around, because they're not the only ones who have had generations of shit surrounding them.

And yes, I can bitch about how Mexicans come into our country and create problems because they're illegal. I'm 100% pro-immigration, even illegal-immigration, but I'm not pro-fuckingupcountries by creating gang wars and ruining the economy.

They were an extreme minority so they never settled where people of the same ethnic background settled for security. They were forcd to start life on their own there, true?
A lot of Mexicans will settle into a community of other Mexicans - thinking because the other people speak the same language that they will get along. In most cases when this happens if living coniditions have been poor for a while the people will form some sort of gang - thinking that will be the solution to a better life - fighting for it. The gang will divide and those gangs will be at war with one another

I see what you mean though man. Id be pretty pissed if in 2010 Scotland becomes independent (I wouldnt be pissed about that part!) ad then Englands economy fails because they have no industry so they all try and move to Scotland. What would happen is we'd probably let in a small amount of families in and try to create a decent diversity of cultures but to be honest I know they'd pile in if things were so bad.
Id wat my goverment to do something about it because Id know that once 500k of them are here life will change dramatically and Ill start suffering

 

[Christmas Crackers]

I know this isn't about immigration, but racism and immigration are closely related tbh. No, I'm not a Native American. My parents were immigrants; I am the first generation of my family to be born outside of the Soviet Union. Did they ever play the race card? No. They were Jews in Russia...they had way more racism surrounding them than any of the black or Mexican people in our country. Did they bitch about it? No. They got education, and were able to become successful. I'm not racist, but the Black people who bitch about how life "in the hood" sucks should shut up and take a look around, because they're not the only ones who have had generations of shit surrounding them.

And yes, I can bitch about how Mexicans come into our country and create problems because they're illegal. I'm 100% pro-immigration, even illegal-immigration, but I'm not pro-fuckingupcountries by creating gang wars and ruining the economy.

Can you prove that there is a direct relationship between Mexicans and our "ruined" economy? For all I know, they're taking jobs and helping our economy.

 

[MatthewGor123]

Can you prove that there is a direct relationship between Mexicans and our "ruined" economy? For all I know, they're taking jobs and helping our economy.

http://www.city-journal.org/html/16_3_immigrants_economy.html
http://www.progressiveu.org/204544-illegal-immigrants-hurt-the-economy

Two relatively intelligent points of view. Plus, it's not like there's not ENOUGH low-class jobs; there are too MANY. They're taking jobs away from legal Americans, at times.

And yes, I know there are arguments in both directions, but that's just my perspective.

 

[First Hitted]

There is no superior race, using racial slurs is terrible

 

[p0oned y0u1]

There is no superior race, using racial slurs is terrible

I'm sorry but that has nothing to do with anything. Black people call us names like honky and cracker, but when we call them the N word it is racist and people get shot for it. Why don't white people freak out when they get called racist names? Black people can't use the excuse that "I was called it when I was in slavery". None of them were ever in slavery none of there parents were ever slaves, and unless they are like over 80 years old there grandparents weren't slaves. They need to stop falling back on the "we were slaves" thing.

I think it is completely wrong that they were made slaves, but my great grandparents came over from Europe so my family had nothing to do with it. Most black people don't even know about there history they just use it as there fall back without knowing the real situation.

Racial slurs are wrong, but it isn't like black people are the only ones that get called it. Mexicans, Chinese, Japanese, white people, everyone has a racial slur name, but for some reason it is HORRIBLE when people drop the N word, but not as bad if they say some other racial slur.

 

[sellmyalt]

I think people take racism to seriously. People are at the point where they teach you the right term is "African American", since calling someone "Black" is offensive. 0.0 White people get called white.


Racism is usually actually found when you're looking for it. Comments that aren't ment to be racial can be taken as racial comments without that intention.

Imo, the world needs to chill out about racism, it's not a huge deal.

 

[Christmas Crackers]

If there are too many low-class jobs, then there is enough to go around for both Americans and illegals. Not sure I understand what you're trying to say.

 

[Jansen]

I'm so sick idiots playing the race card in arguments and serious debate

Pisses me off - it's a cop-out

 

[Queen0Hearts]

your very true in white you say but i am not racist people go to palces like england and america (muslims) and start calling them racist things well sorry but.. its their country adn they have no right
I AM NOT RACIST just thought i should pass that on =]

 

[Ganzta-Freak]

Yea, if a white person calls a black person "retarded son of a dick" in a 'fight', he's a racist.
If the black then says "Racist", he makes himself look awful because of him being black, 'cuz the white boy said it because they were fighting over something. It could have been a white boy saying it to a white boy too.

Look, if new children didn't grow up with the word "racism" there wouldn't be any racists, and that's for sure.

Humans could do so much, if we just wanted to.

 

[Arya]

There is still one thing i don't get. When a white person says the "n word" the majority of black people would get angry and in some cased use it as an excuse for violence.

When a black person says it, in vernacular terms it's more like "friend, or anything of that sort." ( What's up my N----- )

In the past, white people used the word for an insult.

A black person never exactly widely considered the word an insult for another of their own.

Understand?

In African slavery you had rights, had a chance to gain freedom, and were treated better. They didn't know the extent they were selling their "Prisoners of War" to. Also, after awhile, the Spanish/Soon to be called Americans, they went back and enslaved the people they bought the slaves off in the first place because of greed.

Also, some of the things people said on this thread are stereotypical and are wrong. It's an equality to the amount of racist doing drugs, and both races are equally violent, if not a tad bit more.

Proof?

 

[mike_w_99]

I say if u wanna be racist, be racist. your fault if u get koed by a black guy

 

[mike_w_99]

oh and getting the superial race comment. White is overall best. Mexicans apperantly are very poor and slave like. Blacks apperantly have big .... yeah, and are next to mexicans. Brown people have tons of money but smell and stuff. asians are smart but have small... and always smell like fish. White people are average all the way around.

NOTE: this is not ment to be offenseive, just the streotypes.