Trade limits on f2p -> p2p

[Jefe]

@Jefe my understanding is the proposed scam mechanisms for this have been debunked

That's that then I want nothing more to do with this whole ordeal.

 

That's that then I want nothing more to do with this whole ordeal.

Has jasper seen your videos of the methods you proposed?

 

[Jasper M]

Still unclear on whether the game could have eaten the gold. The MO doesn't fit either of you as scammers tbh. Normally someone gets caught scamming they don't fight so hard to prove their innocence. Normally the amount is more than $100 as well. Normally a scammer would just go make a new sythe account rather than fighting.

Both MOs fit innocent people, that's why the third hypothesis that the game ate the gold is still an attractive hypothesis. As to ruling it out completely, that seems challenging.

We have some evidence that maybe there are no drop trade limits. And some evidence (i.e. from runescape official posts, and other anecdotes) that there are. We don't have access to the code, so we don't know from a whitebox point of view.

There is the matter of how you came up with 28 free inventory slots in the video. Under the hypothesis that the game did *NOT* eat the gold, I don't think there is currently a working explanation as to how you had 28 free slots in the video. @Jefe my understanding is the proposed scam mechanisms for this have been debunked

I agree that ruling out the fact that the game ate the gold would be quite hard to do especially since I'm at a GP shortage to prove this... But, you cannot rule out my proposed method he COULD have scammed me with! If you look at the Skype conversation, I didn't accuse him instantly, took me over an hour to call him out. Matter of fact, it was a lot of scrolling, but here is the ENTIRE conversation unedited... link here.

&& @Sythe a scammer would be willing to lie to defend himself if he's trying to look cool in front of a community. I wouldn't mind if this conversation was in a private skype call, honestly. Then everything is out in the open and you're forced to speak on reaction, not a long thought out post. But, if what I've provided and/or offered still isn't sufficient in your eyes. I am forced to rule out the 3rd possibility that the game deleted the gold. I'd have to have somebody's help though.... I'd need somebody to be 'Jefe' and do the EXACT same thing, but we will confirm it's 100m first so no chance of Cheat Engine.

Has jasper seen your videos of the methods you proposed?

@Sythe No I have not, I've only heard about them and defended myself.

 

[Jefe]

Has jasper seen your videos of the methods you proposed?

Not sure.

 

Not sure.

Did you want to send it to him? Or even blank the name and post it publicly

 

[Jefe]

Did you want to send it to him? Or even blank the name and post it publicly

He's seen every video I've made if that's what you mean.

 

[Lame]

"I do it all the time"

Clearly you dont and clearly you should be banned

 

[Gun]

Nigga u doing something wrong getting banned for rwt

 

[Jasper M]

@Sythe please read my post above as I think you may have missed it. Also, I've only seen one video of Jefe's. I've not seen anything past the actual trade itself. I'd love to see those videos @Jefe.

Nigga u doing something wrong getting banned for rwt

No kidding, that's why I am trying to secure it! Hence why I still use drop trading, but I guess that's history after this dispute, huh?

 

[jackthehackm8]

Nigga u doing something wrong getting banned for rwt

only at s1th d0t o0rg

 

[Jefe]

@Sythe please read my post above as I think you may have missed it. Also, I've only seen one video of Jefe's. I've not seen anything past the actual trade itself. I'd love to see those videos @Jefe.



No kidding, that's why I am trying to secure it! Hence why I still use drop trading, but I guess that's history after this dispute, huh?

It was just another video showing how you could of scammed using the table but seeing as the notion of scams have been debunked it's no longer relevant.

 

[Jasper M]

It was just another video showing how you could of scammed using the table but seeing as the notion of scams have been debunked it's no longer relevant.

True, the notion of my scams have been debunked.

 

[Jasper M]

@Sythe @Jefe I feel like this post was ignored. How about that Skype conversation and/or community/personal reenactment?

 

It was just another video showing how you could of scammed using the table but seeing as the notion of scams have been debunked it's no longer relevant.

I believe the timing is off, still you should make it public. More eyes are better

 

[Jasper M]

@Sythe @Jefe Please do, I'd be happy to review it! Private message me the link if you want.

 

[Jasper M]

I'm going to bed since there hasn't been a reply in quite some time! Have a goodnight, I'm still open for the Skype call and or reenactment of this situation to see if the game deleted my gold or not! I'd love to solve this case! Gn

 

I haven't looked through the videos but just to clarify items put on tables don't despawn as quickly as items dropped on the floor. I don't know how long they take to appear to other players but its worth looking into.

Was a tip I picked up from a ult ironman video where he leaves a hammer on a table for well over 5 minutes while doing laps of mining & smithing

 

[Jasper M]

I haven't looked through the videos but just to clarify items put on tables don't despawn as quickly as items dropped on the floor. I don't know how long they take to appear to other players but its worth looking into.

Was a tip I picked up from a ult ironman video where he leaves a hammer on a table for well over 5 minutes while doing laps of mining & smithing

I have no idea how long it takes items to 'despawn' but, I've tested how long it takes to appear to other players and it's approximately 60 seconds.

 

I understand why Matthew made you admin tbh @Sythe also requesting that you get detective mini

 

[jackthehackm8]

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