Trade limits on f2p -> p2p

[Jefe]

Slightly odd, but what's even worse is I recorded me creating an account, completing tutorial island, my main dropping my noob 50k, my noob dropping the 50k back (expecting it to be reduced to 25k), and my main picked it up as 50k.. I then preceded to trade the 50k back and forth between the accounts? Slightly confused. The trade limit was void?

How about you explain a few other things that you've seemed to avoid:

1. Why did you lie about only drop trading 150m at once.

2. Why did you require specific time intervals between my drops + why did you need me to drop a junk item.

3. Why did you bring me to that specific spot with a table directly next to me.

4. Why did you force me to buy a bond if there's no F2P trade limit?

5. Why are you drop trading in 2016?

 

[Jasper M]

He was a level 33 I am a level 44. Though I don't believe level difference doesn't matter too much, unless you know something I do not?

& if there's not an active drop trade, I would have received the full 100m, there's no way around that so far.

 

[Heads447]

heads r u khv?

i told that bitch gimmie head and she sucked the tip 447 times

 

[Gun]

Can confirm this Jasper kid to be ugly af with a clear indicator brain damage.

 

He was a level 33 I am a level 44. Though I don't believe level difference doesn't matter too much, unless you know something I do not?

& if there's not an active drop trade, I would have received the full 100m, there's no way around that so far.

have you got a larger amount like 20M you can drop between two f2p accounts just to check there is actually no drop restriction

 

[Jasper M]

How about you explain a few other things that you've seemed to avoid:

1. Why did you lie about only drop trading 150m at once.

2. Why did you require specific time intervals between my drops + why did you need me to drop a junk item.

3. Why did you bring me to that specific spot with a table directly next to me.

4. Why did you force me to buy a bond if there's no F2P trade limit?

5. Why are you drop trading in 2016?

How about you stop trying to direct our attention away from getting to the bottom of this, but I will entertain you.

1. I stated something I'd like to start doing. I drop traded NomNom the 200m prior. The time I said I drop traded 'x'M+ before was me talking shit so you wouldn't think that '100m' was too much to drop.

2. They weren't necessarily specific time intervals as I said 5-10 seconds until you told me to break it down even more clearly, then I chose a number and I went with 10 seconds. I wanted the junk item first because when NomNom and I drop traded the first time we used it as a placeholder. Like, if we see that junk item we know the gold should be "x" amount of seconds behind it and if it's not, tell the seller to GRAB the gold because you're not going to see it. (We weren't experts at drop trading when we started, so we used it as a precaution) I continued to use it as it felt safer.

3. I chose a random location, I was in Varrock at the time with that shop closest to me. Upstairs so we weren't so obvious. Behind the chair/stool because it was an extra 4 blocks for another player to have to walk to grab the gold. (more time for you as the seller to pick it up if needed) I didn't know you could place items on a table, swear to god. Take my word or don't, that's the truth.

4. I thought there was a trade limit, there's several posts about it everywhere and I didn't want to take the chances of that being true so the $3 seemed worth the investment. I also had exactly a $100 budget that night, so since I was at $97 for the gold, the $3 bond fit perfectly.

5. Simple. It's my choice. I've got a few reasons though.

• I've been banned 3 times for real world trading. 1 purchase from China (obviously stupid, I was young) 1 purchase from BG (500m, 300m BTC 200m PayPal) banned the day after for RWT. 1 purchase from a random seller I don't remember where, I just googled something like "buying 07 gold legit" and looked around till I found one that looked legit.
• I feel it's safest. I used to own a private server and I know for a fact looking at trade logs/duels/pks are very easy to tell if they're RWT. But, I've never been able to catch a drop trade.
• Once again, it's my choice how I decide to trade. I messaged a few sellers before you (Jefe) asking if they do drop trades, they all said no, and I happily moved on.

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have you got a larger amount like 20M you can drop between two f2p accounts just to check there is actually no drop restriction

I do not :/ .. hense why I was here buying gold. Prayer/Skills on RS have been costing me too much money to afford that atm. Sorry.

 

[Jasper M]

Also, @Jefe if you truly didn't scam and something went wrong with the game. Wouldn't you want to get to the bottom of this too? How about helping out to clear this situation up? Maybe keep a future customer since I buy quite often in quite big quantities (to me at least). A company would follow up if their package was lost in the mail, right? Unless, they just took their money and laughed at them as they waited for nothing.

 

[DaltyF]

The burden of proof is on you with that one, cuckold.



Nah, just keep screaming like a bunch of autists about who scammed who without any evidence.

Put words into someone's mouth and call them an autist. Lol, idiot.

 

[Jefe]

1. The time I said I drop traded 'x'M+ before was me talking shit so you wouldn't think that '100m' was too much to drop.

So you lied yourself into getting me to do the trade.

2. (We weren't experts at drop trading when we started, so we used it as a precaution) I continued to use it as it felt safer.

3. I chose a random location, I was in Varrock at the time with that shop closest to me. Upstairs so we weren't so obvious. Behind the chair/stool because it was an extra 4 blocks for another player to have to walk to grab the gold. (more time for you as the seller to pick it up if needed) I didn't know you could place items on a table, swear to god. Take my word or don't, that's the truth.

Ya lemme just take your word for it lol.

4. I thought there was a trade limit, there's several posts about it everywhere and I didn't want to take the chances of that being true so the $3 seemed worth the investment. I also had exactly a $100 budget that night, so since I was at $97 for the gold, the $3 bond fit perfectly.

Surely having drop traded for years with over 300 successful drop trade transactions you would have known this already.

5. Once again, it's my choice how I decide to trade. I messaged a few sellers before you (Jefe) asking if they do drop trades, they all said no, and I happily moved on.

 

So you lied yourself into getting me to do the trade.

Ya lemme just take your word for it lol.



Surely having drop traded for years with over 300 successful drop trade transactions you would have known this already.

@Sythe, if this doesn't say anything, idk what does.

 

[Jefe]

Also, @Jefe if you truly didn't scam and something went wrong with the game. Wouldn't you want to get to the bottom of this too? How about helping out to clear this situation up? Maybe keep a future customer since I buy quite often in quite big quantities (to me at least). A company would follow up if their package was lost in the mail, right? Unless, they just took their money and laughed at them as they waited for nothing.

Sorry if I don't want to help out someone who lied to me during the whole trade then tried planting a fake story on me while getting me banned from Sythe. I know I dropped the 100M, you know I dropped the 100M and as far as I'm concerned I was paid for it so you did this to yourself.

And it's obvious that you're a sketchy scumbag who's looking to scam so I'll just sit back and meme tbh.

 

Sorry if I don't want to help out someone who lied to me during the whole trade then tried planting a fake story on me while getting me banned from Sythe. I know I dropped the 100M, you know I dropped the 100M and as far as I'm concerned I was paid for it so you did this to yourself.

And it's obvious that you're a sketchy scumbag who's looking to scam so I'll just sit back and meme tbh.

I still honestly think the game ate the gold somehow

 

[Jefe]

I still honestly think the game ate the gold somehow

Might seem cruel but I honestly don't care if he wasn't such a scumbag from the get go he might have my sympathy all I know is I dropped 100M following his instructions and got paid my BTC.

Maybe if he wasn't such a compulsive liar then I might've believed what he's saying and offered him some sort of compensation, but through all of this I don't believe a word he says and still think he's trying to scam.

 

I still honestly think the game ate the gold somehow

• 
  If you drop an item manually, the item is visible only to you. It does not ever become visible to other players.

so it probably despawned

 

Might seem cruel but I honestly don't care if he wasn't such a scumbag from the get go he might have my sympathy all I know is I dropped 100M following his instructions and got paid my BTC.

Maybe if he wasn't such a compulsive liar then I might've believed what he's saying and offered him some sort of compensation, but through all of this I don't believe a word he says and still think he's trying to scam.

There is commercial law that deals with this. Incoterms - Wikipedia

Basically it says if someone buys something from you and you deliver it to their exacting instructions and it happens to fall into the ocean as a result of those instructions, that's not your fault.

 

[Jefe]

There is commercial law that deals with this. Incoterms - Wikipedia

Basically it says if someone buys something from you and you deliver it to their exacting instructions and it happens to fall into the ocean as a result of those instructions, that's not your fault.

Was hoping that would be common knowledge to some people.

s/o @Astro

 

[Jasper M]

1. The time I said I drop traded 'x'M+ before was me talking shit so you wouldn't think that '100m' was too much to drop.

So you lied yourself into getting me to do the trade.

2. (We weren't experts at drop trading when we started, so we used it as a precaution) I continued to use it as it felt safer.

3. I chose a random location, I was in Varrock at the time with that shop closest to me. Upstairs so we weren't so obvious. Behind the chair/stool because it was an extra 4 blocks for another player to have to walk to grab the gold. (more time for you as the seller to pick it up if needed) I didn't know you could place items on a table, swear to god. Take my word or don't, that's the truth.

Ya lemme just take your word for it lol.

4. I thought there was a trade limit, there's several posts about it everywhere and I didn't want to take the chances of that being true so the $3 seemed worth the investment. I also had exactly a $100 budget that night, so since I was at $97 for the gold, the $3 bond fit perfectly.

Surely having drop traded for years with over 300 successful drop trade transactions you would have known this already.

5. Once again, it's my choice how I decide to trade. I messaged a few sellers before you (Jefe) asking if they do drop trades, they all said no, and I happily moved on.

1. No, I didn't lie to get you to trade. This is after the drop trade occurred, I just didn't want you thinking that you might have dropped too much and it disappeared since you seemed to not know anything about drop trading. Which is also why I broke it down so 'specific'.

2. Look at the conversation around it, yet again after the transaction. Once again, I was talking shit because I have drop traded before with larger amounts than 100m. Didn't want you thinking I just had you blindly drop your gold as that's stupid on both of us if so.

3. Okay, it's true.

4. Referring to his #2 on this post. Again, I was talking shit and I've never wanted to test the limit as that's loss of gold. Most sellers are members from my experience anyhow, so it never mattered.

5. You're pointing out the same old things from before. It's how I choose to trade, HOW I CHOOSE to trade. Now, I'm sure Sythe is going to make rules against it so now I'm going to have to figure out other methods thanks to this dispute.

@Sythe, if this doesn't say anything, idk what does.

He's repeating himself while I am finding, searching, and obtaining new information. I am making videos, being as honest and as helpful as possible during this dispute. While he just sits on the same pictures he's had from the beginning, and trying to confuse you guys with my words. I can be quite confusing sometimes, I am aware and I do apologize.

Also, @Jefe you've only proved that I have trouble recalling information aka (25-86k to 25-75k) and that I speak out of my ass sometimes. I've proved that I am not a scammer unless you're going to give me something else I can disprove didn't happen? Then it's clear I am not the scammer, and the game didn't steal the money. That leaves one option that Sythe Administration is too blind to see, now I am depending on Richard.

@Sythe

 

I've proved that I am not a scammer

no you haven't lol

 

[Jefe]

1. No, I didn't lie to get you to trade. This is after the drop trade occurred, I just didn't want you thinking that you might have dropped too much and it disappeared since you seemed to not know anything about drop trading. Which is also why I broke it down so 'specific'.

2. Look at the conversation around it, yet again after the transaction. Once again, I was talking shit because I have drop traded before with larger amounts than 100m. Didn't want you thinking I just had you blindly drop your gold as that's stupid on both of us if so.

3. Okay, it's true.

4. Referring to his #2 on this post. Again, I was talking shit and I've never wanted to test the limit as that's loss of gold. Most sellers are members from my experience anyhow, so it never mattered.

5. You're pointing out the same old things from before. It's how I choose to trade, HOW I CHOOSE to trade. Now, I'm sure Sythe is going to make rules against it so now I'm going to have to figure out other methods thanks to this dispute.



He's repeating himself while I am finding, searching, and obtaining new information. I am making videos, being as honest and as helpful as possible during this dispute. While he just sits on the same pictures he's had from the beginning, and trying to confuse you guys with my words. I can be quite confusing sometimes, I am aware and I do apologize.

Also, @Jefe you've only proved that I have trouble recalling information aka (25-86k to 25-75k) and that I speak out of my ass sometimes. I've proved that I am not a scammer unless you're going to give me something else I can disprove didn't happen? Then it's clear I am not the scammer, and the game didn't steal the money. That leaves one option that Sythe Administration is too blind to see, now I am depending on Richard.

@Sythe

All your doing is trying to convince yourself that I've scammed you, and you're having such a hard time doing so because... shock, you weren't scammed genius.

 

Also, @Jefe you've only proved that I have trouble recalling information aka (25-86k to 25-75k) and that I speak out of my ass sometimes. I've proved that I am not a scammer unless you're going to give me something else I can disprove didn't happen? Then it's clear I am not the scammer, and the game didn't steal the money. That leaves one option that Sythe Administration is too blind to see, now I am depending on Richard.

@Sythe

Still unclear on whether the game could have eaten the gold. The MO doesn't fit either of you as scammers tbh. Normally someone gets caught scamming they don't fight so hard to prove their innocence. Normally the amount is more than $100 as well. Normally a scammer would just go make a new sythe account rather than fighting.

Both MOs fit innocent people, that's why the third hypothesis that the game ate the gold is still an attractive hypothesis. As to ruling it out completely, that seems challenging.

We have some evidence that maybe there are no drop trade limits. And some evidence (i.e. from runescape official posts, and other anecdotes) that there are. We don't have access to the code, so we don't know from a whitebox point of view.

There is the matter of how you came up with 28 free inventory slots in the video. Under the hypothesis that the game did *NOT* eat the gold, I don't think there is currently a working explanation as to how you had 28 free slots in the video. @Jefe my understanding is the proposed scam mechanisms for this have been debunked