The list would start from a fresh. You couldn't report a old scams. And I also get what you're saying, if they don't have a proof, bad luck for them. So is bad luck getting sniped or scammed.
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The list would start from a fresh. You couldn't report a old scams. And I also get what you're saying, if they don't have a proof, bad luck for them. So is bad luck getting sniped or scammed.
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You can't expect people to have screenshotted everything before they're even registered here.
You imply not letting a user sell a name here because it's been sniped at some point, unless they have proof they now own it and haven't sniped it themselves.
That's not fair. Someone might own the name now, might want to actually sell it without recovering it and might not have documented his whole buying process which might've occured offsite.
That's true but sametime a very uncommon situation that the person would have bought the name offsite and then straight after found the sythe and came to sell it here. What are the odds? He can sell it to somewhere else but not here unless proof/very good explanation. I bet that 90% of those persons who does that actually scammed the name earlier, it's a fact.
If it doesn't get official, can we even have a unofficial topic about the names? So people who respects no scamming wouldn't buy those names but if they wanted to, of course they could.
Simply wouldn't work out as the blacklisted names could be traded off site.
Yeah they could but not at least inside the sythe.
What if someone wanted to sell the blacklisted name and wasn't the one who sniped/scammed it is my point as to why this wouldn't work.
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+1 it should be harder for people to sell sniped names
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Sorry for the extra bump but can't edit on mobile. I agree with the idea that it works in the very same way that there's a list for recovered accounts - you just don't buy them. Proving a name is sniped is fairly easy, showing that a name recently transferred and the one that bought it didnt receive it. Of course the one them at received it is going to say it wasn't sniped, so there's that.
This really works under the same honor system of accounts that have been recovered, and it would make snipers harder to resell names. Just don't buy names on the blacklist, easy as that. Sucks that someone has to ruin the name being for resale but with how bad the name sales forum has been it seems only appropriate.
This really works under the same honor system of accounts that have been recovered, and it would make snipers harder to resell names. Just don't buy names on the blacklist, easy as that. Sucks that someone has to ruin the name being for resale but with how bad the name sales forum has been it seems only appropriate.
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proving a name was sniped is NOT easy.. theres always 3 sides to a story, his side, your side, the real side.
Accounts being recovered is a seperate issue: an account can be recovered at any time by anyone with enough info, and therefor should be blacklisted because they're obviously being used for a scam.
I honestly see your argument, but maybe I'm just too one sided on the issue but all I see is an argument that can be picked off 1 by 1 because they just aren't making sense.
There are literally bots for sniping names.. If I buy a name that was sniped from you by a sniping bot thats your fault for getting it sniped, and not being more cautious.. I bought the name fair and square, with no idea/intent to buy a sniped name, you see why your argument doesn't make sense to me?
Saying "your name is out of the market because I fucked up and got it sniped" is illogical because from what I can see you can make name xferring pretty safe..
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There's two participants, the seller and buyer. The seller obviously wants to sell the name and buyer buy it. So why in the earth would one of them report it for no reason? If the seller sold it and sniped it for himself and reported it, he wouldn't be able to sell it here and if the buyer sniped it??? Why would he even do it
so how it's hard to prove that name got sniped when there's two ppl involved in the trade.
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I feel like you dont understand. Sniping IS considered scamming, so in this sense youre almost saying scamming is OK since someone didnt take enough precautions - getting a name sniped by a bot is pretty hard to counter, as just misclicking by 1/4 of a second can be the difference in having it sniped and not.
As well as for proving a snipe:
Player A sells name to Player B
Player A claims the name was sniped
There are then two scenerios:
-Player B says it wasnt, shows they have the username. Problem solved.
-Player B cant prove they have the username, therefore it is sniped. Problem solved.
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Report it for no reason? are you trying to say that scams don't happen?????????????????????There's two participants, the seller and buyer. The seller obviously wants to sell the name and buyer buy it. So why in the earth would one of them report it for no reason? If the seller sold it and sniped it for himself and reported it, he wouldn't be able to sell it here and if the buyer sniped it??? Why would he even do it
two participants: the buyer and the seller.
the seller has 'G3722' for sale: 500m 07
I want to buy 'G3722' offer the 500m autowin BUT I make a deal I will ONLY pay once the name is on an account of my choice, boom you fuck up I figure out when exactly youre xffering the name BOOM some random account of mine now has the name G3722, there is NO way for you prove that I took it, BUT I wont pay you shit BC the acc isn't on the account I gave you to put the name on..
1.what if someone genuinely tried to register G3722 as you were xfering(low chances of this but could happen) and they make a sythe account and don't know that is a xanax press so I offer to buy it for 5m.. they didn't snipe it/obtained it maliciously why the fuck would this not be allowed.
2. I buy 'superman' for 10m 07, and come here and offer to sell it for 1b, rsn: superman was sniped from our admin when he was selling it and the sniper wanted a quick burger(IDFK).. anywhom I bought it fair and square because superman the admin failed to trade is succesfully he lost it.. (to avoid this he could have sold the acc w the name bound to it/force the buyer to xfer himself it cuts out all the bullshit)
3. so on
4. so on..
If I sat here I could come up with scenarios where the seller loses a name and someone else is trying to sell it who didnt obtain it maliciously.
Why should the seller(who potentially bought the name fair and square with GOOD money be out a sale because YOU got sniped by a bot or by another person.
Too much to read:
It is a free market, and the market has risks(more when involved in the sale of names)
it is your responsibility to xfer the name or to state that your buyer has to find other arrangements for this
IDK lol I feel like your arguments are just invalid(maybe I just have my head too far up my ass to see your point, but I just cant grasp any of your arguments and call them valid.. to me this idea is absurd and just couldn't work I have too many scenarios where[this rule]just wouldnt work)
edit: I'm basically just saying that the name market has extra precautions/risks involved.. love them/live them/learn them.. or hate them.. your choice
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Someone's mad. The number one argument you just gave have a lower chances than winning in a lotto. It won't happen, ever.
The number two I don't understand what your saying.
And also, I don't see how would that work out if the buyer didn't take full responsbility for the sniping, in that case he just could transfer the name always to another account and claim he didn't get it. That's why the buyer always takes the responsbility for the snipes. It wouldn't just work out by another way. In that case, why would the seller or buyer report the name for sniping if they sniped it themselves (obviously the buyer wouldn't even snipe it, because it makes no fucking sense)
Other than that, please fix your attitude kid.
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Got two points to make;
First of all, you shouldn't deal with people you don't trust.
Secondly, check my first point.
When trading account names, you KNOW there is no 100% guarantee it won't be sniped.
Your points of concern are very valid, but you can't influence someones business negatively simply because you assume the name is sniped.
First of all, you shouldn't deal with people you don't trust.
Secondly, check my first point.
When trading account names, you KNOW there is no 100% guarantee it won't be sniped.
Your points of concern are very valid, but you can't influence someones business negatively simply because you assume the name is sniped.
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Yeah and I've mentiod before about it. Person 1 sniped the name, person 1 could just sell the name on these forums without receiving NOTHING for doing it. He's allowed to do it under the current rules. If the name list was here, he couldn't AT LEAST sell it here. If he bought the name off site, he's free to sell it off site if he didn't bother to check that the name is banned on these forums. And if he didn't know about it because hes new, now he does. I mean if we approved this, everyone who does the name business would know about it and the new members who come here will obviously learn it.
If you get sniped, you all consider it as a bad luck, isn't buying a scammed name aso that? At least the current members would know it and wouldn't buy it, or if they didn't bother to check list, their loss. If they want to sell the name they can do it off site, if the name was scammed during trade done in sythe, it would be banned sythe-wise. The scammers or whoever newcomers who didn't know about the name list can sell.their names somewhere else (obviously the newcomers are member of another runescape market forums, because they.. somehow :O .. got the name into their hands. And are free to sell the name there, but not here.
TLTR ;
Name business is a risk. You can get scammed or you might buy a scammed name (obviously the sythe members wouldn't buy those). What is the loss if a newcomer can't sell the name here?
This all just sounds like "feel free to snipe and sell the sniped names eventhough it's classified as scamming, we support you by the rules. And for the sellers and buyers, if you get sniped, it's bad luck, keep moving on.
With that said, we atm support scammers and don't give a fuck about their victims.
Also a good point if this was approved ; buying a scammed name would be A LOT lower chance than getting sniped. Also usually the seller of the scammed name is the scammer hisself because the name market here's so damn good. This would prevent the sniping at least a bit inside the sythe. And if it would happen that a person who didn't know about sythe and bought a name thats scammed here he can go to sell the name there where he bought it.
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No support, it's impossible to tell if name has been resold or has already been exchanged to another person.
It just cos's more issue's than it worth tbh
It just cos's more issue's than it worth tbh
Yeah thought it has a very little chance that the name has been resold out of sythe whilst it was scammed inside the sythe. And thd name list would be sythe-wise if you bought a name from somewhere else than sythe and it's banned here, feel free to sell it there, wherever you bought the name. The name's not welcomed to sythe and all sythe members would know not to buy that name. Get what im saying? It's a fucking lil risk that you would get a scammed name into your hand and if you do, well fuck. Like everyone said business has it risks. And the damn namelist is only sythe-wise it would reduce the scam inside the sythe!! The current rules allows you to snipe names, sell them afterwards and get a vouch for it. (Basically) and if we implented the name list, you couldn't at least sell the name.here.
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