Military Draft

[Damien0124]

Of course you don't want to be drafted, thats not selfish. But doging the draft, avoiding it and such, that is selfish. Its not a bad thing to have a draft, its a bad thing to avoid it or run away from the service.

Why is it a bad thing to run away from something you don't want?

You know what happened in WW1 with soldiers who were drafted?
And how about WW2?

Ever heard of the mental effects wars have on people?

Do you want this to happen to people, you monster!!

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Combat stress reaction, in the past commonly known as shell shock or battle fatigue, is a military term used to categorize a range of behaviours resulting from the stress of battle which decrease the combatant's fighting efficiency. The most common symptoms are fatigue, slower reaction times, indecision, disconnection from one's surroundings, and inability to prioritize. Combat stress reaction is generally short-term and should not be confused with acute stress disorder, post-traumatic stress disorder, or other long-term disorders attributable to combat stress although any of these may commence as a combat stress reaction.

The psychological effect of combat is a concept which encompasses a wide variety of processes and negative impacts, all of which must be taken into consideration in any assessment of the immediate and long term costs of war. This entry will address the wide-spectrum psychological effects of combat, to include: psychiatric casualties suffered during combat, physiological arousal and fear, the physiology of close combat, the price of killing, and Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD).

And there are much more psychological illnesses caused by wars.
Not to mention the amount of physical damage caused to soldiers' bodies.

 

[Shredderbeam]

I couldn't agree with you more, don't you think it's selfish of the leaders who are in charge of the country to put so many lives on the line? If you don't want to kill people or don't want to die, it's okay to avoid it. Have any of you guys ever been to war or been drafted? Yes, you're male instinct tells you you should fight, but think with your brains.

Ha, my instinct doesn't tell me to fight, it tells me to run away as fast as I can.

I am sickened and disgusted by those civilians who value forced military service. These are people who have never been in a war, never seen a battle, never killed a man, never picked up the bloody remnants of dead children, and yet they blindly tell others that that is what they must do. How can they force others to do what they themselves have no experience with?

 

[Cfrey]

Yes, yes, refusing to be torn out of my life and shipped halfway across the world for any number of years to fight and murder people I have never met is incredibly selfish. God, man, how do I live with myself?

That's when you say its against your religion to fight.

 

[Fate1]

I think they should have a draft when it is absolutely necessary. I would go if I was drafted and would not run away to mexico or some country. Yeah I would be afraid but I am serving the country I love and fighting for the people and my family and friends.

 

[Music Makes Me Pwn]

I am wondering - have you ever been in a war?

I am wondering - If more people thought the way you did, would many countries still exist? God dammit. I would fight for nation any given day.

 

[Shredderbeam]

That's when you say its against your religion to fight.

I shouldn't have to lie to avoid death.

I think they should have a draft when it is absolutely necessary. I would go if I was drafted and would not run away to mexico or some country. Yeah I would be afraid but I am serving the country I love and fighting for the people and my family and friends.

If you want to run off to some foreign country, suit yourself. Why do you think that I should have to, too?

I am wondering - If more people thought the way you did, would many countries still exist? God dammit. I would fight for nation any given day.

You didn't answer my question. Have you ever been in a war?

 

[Damien0124]

I am wondering - If more people thought the way you did, would many countries still exist? God dammit. I would fight for nation any given day.

War has never brought anything good to a country, why would you want to participate in such a horrible event?

 

[Depend]

I absolutely don't agree with a draft nowadays. You should be able to make the decision if you want to fight for your country. Being forced to join the army tears families apart and kills many people who didn't want to be put into the situation.

 

[Music Makes Me Pwn]

War has never brought anything good to a country, why would you want to participate in such a horrible event?

Jesus Christ. If your country was invaded you would do nothing?

You didn't answer my question. Have you ever been in a war?

No I have not. I am Polish though and both my grand fathers where in the resistance. I would gladly join up in an army if my country was invaded.

 

Hmm, interesting topic. If your country needs a draft to kept itself functioning, then yes, you should be drafted. The obligation of a man to register (in the United States) is done by the Military Selective Service Act. By living in said county and receiving the rights defended by the armed forces, you automatically agree to laws such as the MSSA.

Actually, I would be in full support of a mandatory two-year service to your country for both genders. Now this service wouldn't necessarily be combat-related, just service in general.

 

[Bewood]

Yes I am calling you selfish for avoiding something you fear, some people are afraid of needles but they still need a hepatitis vaccine. Being afraid of going to war is only natural but if you are drafted you still need to serve your country, it is extremely selfish.

Good, I'm glad you did.

I am afraid of needles, I was scarred for life when I was kid because of them. I haven't gotten a shot/vaccine/immunization in over 5-6 years and won't for the rest of my life.

Also, I do not want to be in this country, but I can't leave yet. So as far as I'm concerned, I don't like being here, they don't want me here, so leave me alone until I can leave.

But thanks for replying

 

[The Fat Controller]

No, the germans were attempting to commit genocide and take over the world. Even if you find the iraq war as immoral, nothing can compare to the Nazi's intentions.

There are exceptions to everything.

An individual's refusal to carry out criminal acts in the name of his government does not make him a selfish prick. I don't even see what there is to discuss here.

 

[Shredderbeam]

No I have not. I am Polish though and both my grand fathers where in the resistance. I would gladly join up in an army if my country was invaded.

Ok. Do you think that you should be able to force others to do the same?

Hmm, interesting topic. If your country needs a draft to kept itself functioning, then yes, you should be drafted. The obligation of a man to register (in the United States) is done by the Military Selective Service Act. By living in said county and receiving the rights defended by the armed forces, you automatically agree to laws such as the MSSA.

Living in a country implies consent to all of the laws?

 

Living in a country implies consent to all of the laws?

I never said all laws, only those necessary to kept a country functioning.

Why is a draft a necessary law?

When engaged in large-scale wars, sometimes a countries' standing army is too small for defense or engagement.

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Wouldn't their be enough volunteers if a country is threatened by invasion?

In certain cases, yes. Although again, if a country such as North Korea invades the United States, we would need every man we could get.

 

[Shredderbeam]

I never said all laws, only those necessary to kept a country functioning.

In that case, you're trying to sacrifice individuals for the greater good. You would stop me from fleeing for my life, and force me to fight and kill others so "the country" can stay intact?

 

[Feren Silver]

They only instate the draft if things are serious. I don't see why doing your country a service could be a bad thing, unless you are a selfish prick...

Fighting a war on foreign soil for no cause is me doing my country a service? I honestly think it would only get to that point when there is clearly no need to be involved at all (Vietnam?) Personally if there was a crisis in which we need Americans to stand up and act there would be no problem. Check the mass recruitment after 9\11.

Not to mention that fact that you have to drop everything that is going on in your life to serve.

 

[WiZzi1]

no matter what, you should serve your country as I have stated before. No matter the mental repercussions, or the pain inflicted on your self.

No one can sway me otherwise.

 

[tutoneppis]

What kind of corrupt crap.. this is the 21ST century.

 

[Darkened]

If I was ever to be drafted I would just move back to my country. I have been in the U.S. for about ten years now and its pretty fun here now and then. Though I have seen what wars can do to people I'm not afraid to be put in but I wouldn't kill someone for no reason if someone in that country has started a war to make a conflict with the U.S. I'm not scared of seeing dead bodies I'm only scared of getting bombed and shot o_0

 

[Shredderbeam]

no matter what, you should serve your country as I have stated before. No matter the mental repercussions, or the pain inflicted on your self.

No one can sway me otherwise.

Why should you serve your country?