Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

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Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.
  1. Unread #1 - Oct 24, 2016 at 12:43 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    The Suggestion
    People who are banned can have their Sythe assets given away: Sythe Gold, mini ranks, and fun ranks. Fun ranks as in ranks like mudkip. Not competition winner or mod ranks.

    For scammers: assets will be given to the person that was scammed

    For ban evaders:
    assets will be given to the person that caught them

    Why though?
    I think this would be a good way to partially compensate scam victims as a "GG, Sorry you got scammed" gift. Also, would promote detective activity for catching high profile ban evaders.

    In my opinion, banned users/DNT should have all their Sythe assets cleared anyway, not just their ranks. If some someone applies to have their ban revoked and DNT evoked, which is pretty rare, they can have their earned nontradeable assets back.

    What about people that come back after a ban?
    Of course, this action would be nullified on things like precautionary bans and temporary bans. But most other banned users come back as DNT and after an extended period of time. So the giving away of their assets is an addition to the consequences of their actions.

    EDIT (11/5/16):

    I no longer believe funranks should be taken away. Even ones that don't represent any ranks. However, I still do believe tradeable miniranks and Sythe gold should be automatically given to the victim.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Oct 24, 2016 at 12:59 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    Don't support this. There is always a chance of the banned user returning.
     
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  5. Unread #3 - Oct 24, 2016 at 1:05 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    Of course, this action would be nullified on things like precautionary bans and temporary bans. But most banned users come back as DNT, so the giving away of their assets is an addition to the consequences of their actions.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Oct 24, 2016 at 1:27 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    No support, doesn't really make sense because people pardon and successfully come back to the site.
     
  9. Unread #5 - Oct 24, 2016 at 1:29 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    I kind of want an administrator to scam me now so I can have their admin rank.

    Hehe xD
     
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  11. Unread #6 - Oct 24, 2016 at 1:32 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    Would encourage more scammers on sythe from my perspective. Although there is too many already though.
     
  13. Unread #7 - Oct 24, 2016 at 1:33 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    Being banned/DNT is already enough punishment for most scammers/infractors. Also, doing this would demotivate banned/DNT users from paying their debts and returning to the community.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Oct 24, 2016 at 1:42 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    How so?
     
  17. Unread #9 - Oct 24, 2016 at 1:42 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    Only ranks that dont require doing anything, like Mudkip rank.
     
  19. Unread #10 - Oct 24, 2016 at 1:43 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    Gonna go with no support. There are people who have scammed and have pardoned and are now legitimate users of this site. There's no reason to take away their minis/sythe gold etc, either way with DNT none of that is even visible
     
  21. Unread #11 - Oct 24, 2016 at 1:53 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    In my opinion, banned users/DNT should have all their Sythe assets cleared anyway, not just their ranks. If some someone applies to have their ban revoked and DNT evoked, which is pretty rare, they can have their earned nontradeable assets back.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Oct 24, 2016 at 1:56 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    DNT isn't that rare of an occasion, and by nontradeable assets you mean what? Sythe gold and miniranks are both tradeable
     
  25. Unread #13 - Oct 24, 2016 at 2:05 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    I mean, getting DNT and their ban cleared is rare. And untradeable earned assets like SOTM mini, Competition winner rank, verified elo, verified discord, etc
     
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  27. Unread #14 - Oct 24, 2016 at 2:08 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    ah okay that makes more sense, but if someone has their DNT and Ban cleared then they should just keep what they had before, that's just my take on it though
     
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  29. Unread #15 - Oct 24, 2016 at 2:13 AM
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    no one would Admire you if you got it that way
     
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  31. Unread #16 - Oct 24, 2016 at 7:25 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    No support. @Sythe has specifically mentioned multiple times that a banned/DNT users 'assets' are a form of, (forgotten the word) a way to keep DNT interested.. an incentive for DNT to get unbanned so they can repay victims quicker/pardon quickly.
    I'm pretty sure this won't happen as a result of the need to have an incentive for DNTs.

    If DNTs win say cash prizes through CDT events, if they have a debt to repay it would most likely go towards repayment. If they win say miniranks from events, they have something to look forward to, but because their DNT it doesn't show until successfully pardoned.

    Incentives.
     
  33. Unread #17 - Oct 24, 2016 at 7:28 AM
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    Support, give assets to the victim
     
  35. Unread #18 - Oct 24, 2016 at 7:29 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    No support it will over complicate the return process of the user who scams. Say their stuff gets given to a victim, they feel as though there debuts paid of etc. I do support it in the case when someone scams a dice duel debut, people can have the option to either be repaid if they return/via the random victims being refunded or take all there mini ranks.
     
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  37. Unread #19 - Oct 24, 2016 at 8:07 AM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    This was suggested before and met more support
     
  39. Unread #20 - Oct 24, 2016 at 10:02 PM
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    Give away Scammer's and Vader's Sythe assets.

    you can already ask for banned users' miniranks as part of compensation for someone with miniranks scamming you. i know i've done it in the past and had it granted at least. so i support that aspect of this suggestion.

    sythe gold is worthless and fun ranks should be non-transferrable though
     
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