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  1. Unread #21 - Nov 24, 2016 at 11:33 AM
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    I do not like this idea. IP addresses are inherently unreliable anyways so I don't see the point... We should just be forcing people to use two factor and then we should use that to verify identity and do recovery... If someone doesn't have two factor and their account gets hacked/whatever then it's their own damn fault
     
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  3. Unread #22 - Nov 24, 2016 at 11:45 AM
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    Believe Exceleont is trying to suggest a "prevent scheme" to all the scammings that are happening from ban evaders such as racks and racks. Who if you didn't know scammed around 700-900 dollars and was using a vps the whole time. I believe you can download software to have all your 2 factors on your pc now so don't think that's a solution?
     
  5. Unread #23 - Nov 24, 2016 at 11:48 AM
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    There is literally nothing we can do about ban evaders. IP addresses are candy and you can find bowls of them all over the internet. Proxies, VPS', doesn't matter. The only way we're ever going to deal with ban evasion is if we somehow verify something unique to a person and never allow another account with that same unique value. But, we don't want to collect personal data like that nor do people want to provide it.

    I can simply tell you that relying on IP addresses is a waste of time.
     
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  7. Unread #24 - Nov 24, 2016 at 11:56 AM
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    What was suggested a while back as an alternative to svu? Think that may have had something to do with people identifying them selves? Think the work load got piled and that got brushed under the carpet.
     
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  9. Unread #25 - Nov 24, 2016 at 12:09 PM
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    Well we've thought about different methods of identity verification but most of them come with a cost.

    For example, we could send you to an identity verification portal which would ask you questions about yourself and make sure you're who you say you are. They would then send us a postback saying you passed or failed. I'm not sure if we would be able to determine if the same person verified multiple accounts though. Sample cost is $80/month for up to 40 verifications from one provider.

    The other thing to keep in mind is that we have users from all over the world and of different ages. Some countries have different methods of identifying their citizens which we may not be able to verify. And, for younger people, there may not be sufficient data available to conduct verification.

    It's a difficult problem to solve...
     
  11. Unread #26 - Nov 27, 2016 at 8:44 PM
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    Exactly this

    I like the idea but it's not logical to implement
     
  13. Unread #27 - Nov 30, 2016 at 5:09 PM
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    Basically this, without his dramatic ending.
     
  15. Unread #28 - Nov 30, 2016 at 5:57 PM
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    Don't think it's too necessary. In the case of racks on racks people just need to use common sense and not trust someone new to the site just because they've donated x amount to the site.

    It's not uncommon that people have donated x amount and scammed much more than this. People need to move away from trusting a donation rank and rely more heavily on vouches IMO.
     
  17. Unread #29 - Nov 30, 2016 at 6:44 PM
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    agreed and the join date helps alot too, but make sure its not a super inactive account from 2010-2012 suddenly becomes active. Could possibly be a hacked user or the actual person decided to come back.
     
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  19. Unread #30 - Nov 30, 2016 at 7:39 PM
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    I think it's fine, but I'm not one to have the problems other people might have. I don't really travel or use internet that's not at home for long. I support the idea. The idea should be like, if you don't post from a home ip within a month/2weeks of being asked, you're banned till you do.
     
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  21. Unread #31 - Nov 30, 2016 at 9:18 PM
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    I don't like this idea at all. I'll be going to Kenya to observe promiscuous bonobos for the next couple of years so I'll have an African IP address and won't be able to be on my home IP on demand.
     
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    how about the people that live in barracks or on a campus? They only have a public ip so that wouldn't go to well for them though I do like the idea. Would be hard for some folks. Like me for one I use a somewhat public ip most of my time on sythe as im always on the move.
     
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  25. Unread #33 - Dec 1, 2016 at 2:11 AM
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    2Factor is the best solution for this. Prevents all sorts of problems.
     
  27. Unread #34 - Dec 1, 2016 at 5:28 AM
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    I like the premise of the idea but in practice there are too many different variables to account for with each individual member to make this applicable to Sythe. I agree though that we need to find better methods of preventing ban evaders, though I personally have no idea how we would go about that.
     
  31. Unread #36 - Dec 1, 2016 at 12:52 PM
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    There was a time that if you got hacked you weren't allowed to be unbanned until 2fa was enabled.

    Now adays we've got users on here who have been hacked 3+ times lol.

    People just refuse to 2fa for whatever reason.

    A little off topic here but honestly, if someone is hacked it should be mandatory that they enable 2fa on their sythes or change skypes to a live: 2fa'd skype.

    Back a few years ago I had my sythe hacked and Roary told me I was not allowed to return until I 2fa'd, never had a problem with my sythe since.
     
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  33. Unread #37 - Dec 1, 2016 at 1:58 PM
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    Although I agree to some extent that users who only use a vpn should post from an ip home address if their under suspicion. .There is a downside to this... that can be fixed with 2FA. I believe new comers that donate a high amount instantly everyone should definitely be weary about.

    Things im thinking about and most of y'all know I find it stupid that donor symbol gains trust.. the idea about having checks on $200+ user is daft.. I didn't donate for myself....someone else did so... no at buyaccs input..

    We shouldn't define people on donor amount.. but for users who are constantly on a vpn ip.. newcomers and instant donators .. definitely needs a check up..

    Although I know what its like when you dont have a home ip. ..at the start of this year I didn't have access to a home ip for at least 3/4months so having everyone being forced to post from home ip... shouldn't be a thing.. only on suspicion or hacking should be dealt with by 2fa being forced.
     
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  35. Unread #38 - Dec 1, 2016 at 2:04 PM
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    2FA is such a good security tool I will never understand why anyone would refuse to use it. I think 2FA feature should be enforced more and maybe make it compulsory for anyone who has had security issues on their account.
     
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  37. Unread #39 - Dec 2, 2016 at 3:22 AM
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    I don't support. Being in the military it's only possible for me to post from my home IP once a year, if im lucky.
     
  39. Unread #40 - Dec 2, 2016 at 10:56 AM
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    I don't support either like @Lazr said I'm also military. If I'm deployed or move to a new base it's not my "original home IP" I also agree that everyone should have 2FA it's there for a reason.
     
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