Get off your high horse.

[Styles]

Not about specifically Tinychat, but everything else:

I think the Sythe community gets upset with staff because our opinions seem to be overlooked. I have been told before by staff that our posts/ideas are brought up in the SL but how do we know this? All we see is a topic full of good ideas/suggestions, then it's locked due to "not needing to be discussed anymore". To most if not all of the community that seems like our idea was just disregarded because the staff doesn't agree with it.

Suggestion: I believe that some of the decisions that affect Sythe as a community should be discussed more publicly. Our input should matter to you guys. Just because you guys are staff does not mean that our ideas belong down here and your ideas belong up there in the staff lounge. All of you started off as users and I'm sure I can find regular Sythe users who aren't staff that are more intelligent than most of the Staff. This is just my opinion but I think being more public about the big issues would help.

Being here several years, but not a troll post whore, this might well be the best statement I have heard from a "Guru" about the community.

Thank you.

 

[Chriscross23]

If he isn't a mod his argument is invalid.

Thanks,

Tyro.

Thats not what he meant. Styles said that was the best statement by a mod/admin. Tyro was just pointing out that I AM NOT an admin/mod.

 

[mcnuggetman]

i also have a problem with some mods going on a thread locking spree, gohanforever sticks out in particular because when i got to the dispute section alot of the threads there are cause by him all "wtf why was my thread closed" and prematurely locking thread (mine yesterday about pbp pins and getting them at cell phone stores) with a half assed post saying "answered", it wasnt answered you dick, read the whole post next time i was asking about sms pins not pbp, GOOD DAY.

@finn and tyro ^^^ this is what i was talking about

 

[Styles]

Thats not what he meant. Styles said that was the best statement by a mod/admin. Tyro was just pointing out that I AM NOT an admin/mod.

I corrected myself. No harm no foul. I stand behind the beauty of the statement though and how it should be dealt with as a statement standing alone.

 

[JordanF]

SuF is definitely right.

And I love how the mods are all teaming up against him to make him look like he is in the wrong because they know they fucked up and they're being called on it now.

 

SuF is definitely right.

And I love how the mods are all teaming up against him to make him look like he is in the wrong because they know they fucked up and they're being called on it now.

The reason we reply to these threads is because we actually do care, and want you to enjoy your experiences here. Believe it or not..

But really, the inner mod in me must say that this thread is shifting more and more off-topic. Let's try and keep focused if we want to continue our discussion here.

 

[mcnuggetman]

Give me a single example of a thread I locked without warrant, please.

it wasnt aimed at you relax it was aimed at gohanforever.

 

[Weasel2013]

@THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY , Wow.

I could have multi-quoted and made intelligent responses to each and every person, but that would take hours. I'll try to keep this short.

My two cents;

The dealings i've had with staff..

RS2Pleasent - Very professional, polite, honestly trying to help.

Finn- Wierd (slight negative touch) , however I don't know enough to say he doesn't try to improve the community, so DO NOT take that as a bash of any sort.

I agree with the suggestion to make the UL discussion a bit more public, or bring more of the staff down to the members suggestion thread. I've rarely seen a corrupt staff member or an unprofessional one.

For all of you saying that the OP is "dragging on the drama he hates so much" I totally disagree with you and I actually find that disrespectful. First amendment rights? C'mon now. He has an opinion and he wants to voice it. He's actually more or less fighting for YOUR rights, so way to discourage him at the least. I support him. He's an ex-moderator and if his story checks out he lost his title in a noble manner in the least.

PS, as skills said I don't wish to get involved.

PPS, I probably will be

 

[Renton]

@THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY , Wow.

I could have multi-quoted and made intelligent responses to each and every person, but that would take hours. I'll try to keep this short.

First amendment rights?

Since when did the US Bill of Rights apply to the internet and sythe .

Edit: I don't agree with the OPs title, I do see the abstract of what you're saying. It's just that constant flaming will not get us anywhere, it doesn't matter what we perceived it as. Keeping things polite and in the public would do Sythe as a community a whole lot better, however that choice is left up to the admins/mods who enforce these rules.

 

[Chriscross23]

Since when did the US Bill of Rights apply to the internet and sythe .

I have seen references to the Supreme court by mods.

 

[Renton]

I have seen references to the Supreme court by mods.

While a tad off-topic i'm curious to see that, considering the BoR shouldn't apply to a globally available database such as the interwebz.

 

[Tgump]

I have seen references to the Supreme court by mods.

Just popping in here: it was probably as an analogy. Sythe.org doesn't adhere to court decisions unless they're specifically targetting something that Sythe is involved in -- for example, we don't allow marijuana sales here because it's illegal, etc. The site is, ultimately, the private property of Sythe.

 

[mcnuggetman]

@THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY , Wow.

I could have multi-quoted and made intelligent responses to each and every person, but that would take hours. I'll try to keep this short.

My two cents;

The dealings i've had with staff..

RS2Pleasent - Very professional, polite, honestly trying to help.

Finn- Wierd (slight negative touch) , however I don't know enough to say he doesn't try to improve the community, so DO NOT take that as a bash of any sort.

I agree with the suggestion to make the UL discussion a bit more public, or bring more of the staff down to the members suggestion thread. I've rarely seen a corrupt staff member or an unprofessional one.

For all of you saying that the OP is "dragging on the drama he hates so much" I totally disagree with you and I actually find that disrespectful. First amendment rights? C'mon now. He has an opinion and he wants to voice it. He's actually more or less fighting for YOUR rights, so way to discourage him at the least. I support him. He's an ex-moderator and if his story checks out he lost his title in a noble manner in the least.

PS, as skills said I don't wish to get involved.

PPS, I probably will be

to bad we get our amended rights when we turn 18

but not like it matters anyway....

 

[Chriscross23]

Just popping in here: it was probably as an analogy. Sythe.org doesn't adhere to court decisions unless they're specifically targetting something that Sythe is involved in -- for example, we don't allow marijuana sales here because it's illegal, etc. The site is, ultimately, the private property of Sythe.

I don't remember word for word what was said nor can I find the quote now because it was on Rawr's dispute posted by R33l. He was saying something about corruption and he used the supreme court decision to back up his response.

 

[wombakage]

I don't at all disagree, and a while ago what we were introducing (when the Suggestions forum was reformed) was a type of system where:

1.) Suggestion is made -->
2.) Suggestion is thoroughly discussed by members -->
3.) If there is a general consensus it is moved to a public staff discussion -->
4.) The staff vote following the discussion

To give you a real world analogy, I've always advocated an open judiciary, for example, so that the citizens can see that the judiciary is free-from-corruption and is making informed decisions with integrity and honesty.

If you guys want to make a suggestion thread where we could discuss some sort of opened-up lounge regarding certain issues, that'd be fine.

Usually you just lock the threads and make a smart ass remark. You never give reasons for your actions, and scorn any attempts to have an actual discussion. You are a god, and we are mere mortals (members)

 

[Karl]

Usually you just lock the threads and make a smart ass remark. You never give reasons for your actions, and scorn any attempts to have an actual discussion. You are a god, and we are mere mortals (members)

Again, your posting something that isnt helping the topic at hand, your rather prolonging the ability to fix it.

Contribute, but not destructively!


Since this last posts have been Off-Topic. I thought I'd say something to try and correct It.

Despite being here just over a month, I Can openly say I've soaked in so much of Discussion, Drama, Feuds, Arrogances, The list continues..

The destruction of sythe, if not ended now, will be Drama.. Bitter rivalry's between banned members and Staff of sythe are causing a rift between the community and the Staff, and is made even wider with threads like this, Destructive Black-and-white Retort's filling the minds of people thinking that the staff are simply trying to censor the whole forum and emulsify anything they don't like.

You'll deny it, But you can see many posts here that are affected as such, By members who have been banned, who make it seem that this who place is corrupt, that its unjust, Highly popular banned members play you like puppets on a string, working your mind, to post a hateful, destructive comments that don't even help the problem your trying to solve.

 

[Darthatron]

SuF, you should know that stuff is discussed in the SL and never mentioned anywhere else on the site. The reasons for decisions made by the staff are rarely expressed to the general members, but that doesn't mean there aren't any reasons.

On another note, Darthatron was a cool mod.

/lurk

 

[Darkgroove]

SuF, you should know that stuff is discussed in the SL and never mentioned anywhere else on the site. The reasons for decisions made by the staff are rarely expressed to the general members, but that doesn't mean there aren't any reasons.

On another note, Darthatron was a cool mod.

/lurk

That's the way its been and always will be. I liked it how 1 person said SuF was causing drama himself, he responded to that and then the trolls just kept coming back with accusations of creating drama.

You know who was an even better mod? That Darkgroove guy. He was an awesome mod.

 

[Weasel2013]

Since when did the US Bill of Rights apply to the internet and sythe .

Edit: I don't agree with the OPs title, I do see the abstract of what you're saying. It's just that constant flaming will not get us anywhere, it doesn't matter what we perceived it as. Keeping things polite and in the public would do Sythe as a community a whole lot better, however that choice is left up to the admins/mods who enforce these rules.

I have seen references to the Supreme court by mods.

While a tad off-topic i'm curious to see that, considering the BoR shouldn't apply to a globally available database such as the interwebz.

Should be reported for spam imo, like really? Google that shit or stay on topic.
More off-topic discussion, who cares who was a better mod. /lurk , bahahahaa, real funny. /sarcasm.

On topic: I've got nothing else to say. This thread has wandered. Nobody listened to .Karl , contribute but not destructively.
"Decisions are made in the SL and not mentioned anywhere else"
Yeah, members really appreciate that? ...

I don't remember word for word what was said nor can I find the quote now because it was on Rawr's dispute posted by R33l. He was saying something about corruption and he used the supreme court decision to back up his response.

 

[Renton]

Should be reported for spam imo, like really? Google that shit or stay on topic.
More off-topic discussion, who cares who was a better mod. /lurk , bahahahaa, real funny. /sarcasm.

On topic: I've got nothing else to say. This thread has wandered. Nobody listened to .Karl , contribute but not destructively.
"Decisions are made in the SL and not mentioned anywhere else"
Yeah, members really appreciate that? ...

You should be too, like really?

This whole thread has been nothing but a flame war anyway.
on topic: You won't change any of these people's opinions.