Further Verification Tiers

[SuF]

Since it's obvious you load the board with torpid opinions without even the slightest attempt at getting to the meat, I went ahead and appended them to the original thread for you and users like you. Maybe your class will be able to make it past the title this time.

There are so many problems with this:

1) Privacy laws
2) Data protection laws
3) COPPA
4) Doxxing

Etc.

Not to mention it still would not stop scammers.

 

[Xolr]

There are so many problems with this:

1) Privacy laws
2) Data protection laws
3) COPPA
4) Doxxing

Etc.

Not to mention it still would not stop scammers.

Have you taken the moment to ponder intellectual property laws and seen how useful they in this particular corner of the webs? If you're wanting to get legal, I'm sure I could bring up a slew of 1, 2, 3, 4's...

 

I'm all for finding ways to improve our "Sythe Verified" system. I don't think it was this thread but we had a thread suggesting that we had further tiers, or levels of verification.

I'll support, I'd have no problem providing extra information.

 

[SuF]

Have you taken the moment to ponder intellectual property laws and seen how useful they in this particular corner of the webs? If you're wanting to get legal, I'm sure I could bring up a slew of 1, 2, 3, 4's...

There's also the fact that knowing personal info does very little to deter scams. And Richard or Matt could be sued.

I'm all for finding ways to improve our "Sythe Verified" system. I don't think it was this thread but we had a thread suggesting that we had further tiers, or levels of verification.

I'll support, I'd have no problem providing extra information.

Until Sythe gets hacked.

 

[Xolr]

There's also the fact that knowing personal info does very little to deter scams. And Richard or Matt could be sued.


Until Sythe gets hacked.

You won't know a persons info until they have scammed, and only if they do. It's entirely up to the person who was scammed as to what they want to do with it. If you're paying for a service to release information that you provide, then you can't hold anyone liable if the information gets released. I'm sure there would be some type of disclaimer...

There are plenty of ways to secure information; you're into bitcoin from what I can see, how do you not know this? I really hope you're not expecting them to just put a .txt file of everything in some random /peoplesinfofile... Store all information offline, hash and salt it. There are countless methods to secure data, and if there ever was to be a breach the information would be hard to crack, even if it's available at all.

 

[Trkz]

Level 5: Invite an administrator round your house for dinner + prove you live there.

I would personally never give out my address on here. Obviously I would never need to as I'm not a Market user but honestly what are you going to do if you get scammed and you are given the scammers' details by Sythe? Call the police? Unless it was a scam of a massive amount you are more likely to have people ordering pizzas to scammers' houses rather than pursuing legal options.

This, Giving scammers details away is dumb, Just keep them on record for future vaders would be a good idea. What if people use fake or live with elderly or people needing help, have young childeren and someone gets scammed and bombs fuck out of a house. Obviously exaggerating. But rs is full of suicidal fuckers, If they got scammed $1k the outcome could be anything. ^_^

 

[SuF]

You won't know a persons info until they have scammed, and only if they do. It's entirely up to the person who was scammed as to what they want to do with it. If you're paying for a service to release information that you provide, then you can't hold anyone liable if the information gets released. I'm sure there would be some type of disclaimer...

There are plenty of ways to secure information; you're into bitcoin from what I can see, how do you not know this? I really hope you're not expecting them to just put a .txt file of everything in some random /peoplesinfofile... Store all information offline, hash and salt it. There are countless methods to secure data, and if there ever was to be a breach the information would be hard to crack, even if it's available at all.

You're assuming the data is handled correctly. Massive international companies fail to do that.

 

[Delta Squad]

You're assuming the data is handled correctly. Massive international companies fail to do that.

ontop of all that hes assuming sythe/mat have the time to do all this.

and what is it really going to do? i mean most of these people on this forum are around the age of 16, what the fuck are they going to do with someones personal information?

ontop of all of that, no one coming to this site to scam is going to give all that information at anyways.. this is just a backwards ass way to try and fix a problem, the thought is genuine, but the idea is well... useless.

 

[CoinKing]

Sharing private information is not acceptable.
We have seen a lot secured websites hacked and private informations leaked after.
Solving scamming problem sounds to me impossible... (sadly but true).
Actions against scammers must be taken only by the website rules.
And the rules must not violate any human/private information laws.
(Sadly but the law secure more the scammers than the legit persons)

 

[SuF]

Sharing private information is not acceptable.
We have seen a lot secured websites hacked and private informations leaked after.
Solving scamming problem sounds to me impossible... (sadly but true).
Actions against scammers must be taken only by the website rules.
And the rules must not violate any human/private information laws.
(Sadly but the law secure more the scammers than the legit persons)

I just don't see how releasing information on scammers will help.

 

[Xolr]

I just don't see how releasing information on scammers will help.

Ask Bogdan how it helped when he was on mmoe.

 

[Turmoil_]

>fakes a scam
>SVU gets banned
>person who faked a scam gets their address

 

[Sebas613]

Quoting my own suggestion:

Hey,

So, I had just finished reading this topic: http://www.sythe.org/community-input/1580409-sythe-verified.html
It occurred to me, that it might be beneficial to provide a second level of "Sythe Verified".

Basically, this second level would be recognizable by a more enhanced SVU rank.

In order to obtain this rank, people would first have to become SVU the normal way, and afterwards send in a copy of a valid government ID, and either a bank statement or a second proof of residency.
This would need to match the name that is/was on the paypal account that was used to become SVU.

This information would also be released to the victims in case the user has been confirmed to have scammed.



On another forums, sending this information to admins is a requirement for the "Trusted" / "Highly Trusted" ranks (not the bank statement/second proof of residency, but that is an easy to check added security measure. It would also prevent people who quickly take a picture of someone's ID and build a paypal around it to easily become this level of verified).


The intent would be to further deter scammers; this kind of information no one wants to have made public to a victim they'd scam.

 

[Cas]

Has been discussed and approved before afaik.
You'll know whenever it goes live.