Phasing out SVU discussion

[Saluki]

How about just an alternate non tradable mini rank just like the 2fa mini.

SVU was used for a long time , should be remembered some how

Maybe a mini called "SVU Participant"

Crash Bandicoot -

Spyro Gem -

I throw my vote in for the creation of the Aku Aku mask. That way it doesn't crash any "value" of the other miniranks in the system, and this can't be traded.

 

[Jay]

I understand that. And obviously mostly all SVUs who are just $25 will be over the moon to get another $25 added to their donor value. That shouldn't occur. The SVU status is really nothing, that we should now compensate and cause more pretense. (The idea that donations levels/status can give a sign of trustworthiness as well, and that itself beats the whole point of phasing out the SVU since people presume it had a state of trustworthiness.//if we're giving $25 compensations to $25 donor's it will/can make them look somewhat more trustworthy. when in fact they just got refunded their donor money and actually don't really hold the level of their donation. ) Majority of users have already stated SVU means nothing or it has become nothing, so again I don't see why a $25 compensation is an option.

Something minimal in return, not a fun rank because that beats the point of the SVU being a rank. A prizebox? If it doesn't crash miniranks. Legacy Rank? Not sure.. would beat the whole idea of legacy players... unless $300+ and it wouldn't benefit them. Or just simply no compensation.

Again. You or I could easily donate $25/5 to get SVU just because there's a possibility of having the chance of then being $50 donor.
FOR NO REAL REASON.

The person without SVU has so much to say because they chose not to be SVU before these changes were even thought of.. I think this discussion should be SVU users only. "SVU" might not mean anything to some people, but for people like myself who used real information for my SVU, i definitely think we deserve something.

 

[Jay]

SVU is $5 - basically nothing... like they said, easy to register a fake number..

I have the opportunity to buy it, but it is a waste of time imo.

If you think it's a waste of time, thats your opinion, again another non SVU user putting in input on a rank they don't have.

 

The person without SVU has so much to say because they chose not to be SVU before these changes were even thought of.. I think this discussion should be SVU users only. "SVU" might not mean anything to some people, but for people like myself who used real information for my SVU, i definitely think we deserve something.

It's not about choice in whether I've got it or not; the principal im trying to make clear here, is that I could donate tomorrow just to receive it only on the basis of the mere chance I could receive double my donation level, or a prize box and the off chance of receiving a minirank that has further worth. Woohoo free stuff that will make me look somewhat more trustworthy. A vader could do the same, a scammer could do the same, a fake number, wait it out, see what the outcome of this thread is, and if it happens to be more so in favour of them gaining a pretense of trustworthiness like SVU does.. it basically beats the odd of removing it considering vaders use SVU.

The only reason for SVU really is for recovery of your acc.// scam =give out a fake number. I guess in essence nobody should have to pay for that recovery. So some sort of compensation for that reason. But not what has already been suggested. I like Excelont's idea.

 

[Jay]

It's not about choice in whether I've got it or not; the principal im trying to make clear here, is that I could donate tomorrow just to receive it only on the basis of the mere chance I could receive double my donation level, or a prize box and the off chance of receiving a minirank that has further worth. Woohoo free stuff that will make me look somewhat more trustworthy. A vader could do the same, a scammer could do the same, a fake number, wait it out, see what the outcome of this thread is, and if it happens to be more so in favour of them gaining a pretense of trustworthiness like SVU does.. it basically beats the odd of removing it considering vaders use SVU.

The only reason for SVU really is for recovery of your acc.// scam =give out a fake number. I guess in essence nobody should have to pay for that recovery. So some sort of compensation for that reason. But not what has already been suggested. I like Excelont's idea.

If you think $25 is trust.. you are out of your damn mind lmao. This isn't the spam forum, don't venture out from there.

 

[Admires]

A minirank would not be good compensation, and I don't even have a rank. Keep in mind that some people donated up to 25$ just so they could have the Sythe verified rank. Just stripping it away and replacing it with a simple minirank would take away trust from the donation system. That's like going to the store and buying something, and then later the store comes to your door and takes it away. There needs to be a greater compensation not just a minirank which everyone will forget about in a few days.

 

If you think $25 is trust.. you are out of your damn mind lmao. This isn't the spam forum, don't venture out from there.

You're a little slow aren't ya?

I'm not talking about myself. I'm talking about newcomers, that get scammed by vaders with the little SVU that you seem to adore so much, because they used a fake phone number and have somewhat pretense of trust (for newcomers).

 

Any one that got SVU after this thread was created shouldn't be awarded with what ever the prize or ect is so this way people can't just get SVU now and be awarded with free shit

 

[Admires]

Any one that got SVU after this thread was created shouldn't be awarded with what ever the prize or ect is so this way people can't just get SVU now and be awarded with free shit

Why not? In the end donations only help the site out regardless of what little cosmetics rewards come with it. And right now the "free shit" is probably going to be a minirank or fun rank which costs Richard zero.

 

Why not? In the end donations only help the site out regardless of what little cosmetics rewards come with it. And right now the "free shit" is probably going to be a minirank or fun rank which costs Richard zero.

I mean they can always donate but not get the SVU rank as it seems unfair to just get it now just because its going away

 

[FireZ]

Only those with SVU should be discussing this imo as it directly only affects those people.

 

I'd personally be a bit dissapointed if S.V.U got phased out. It's a very valuable asset for conducting business here. If its going to be done some sort of rank would seem appropriate as a replacement. I suggest something like "Active Trader" as a replacement to show that we are active in the marketplace (which sort of replaces S.V.U in the sense that it can be interpreted as more trustworthy)

I really dont want/care for miniranks or an extra 25$ to my donation amount since it wont show more than 200 anyway. Or just increase the amount to get S.V.U at 100+ donation + 150-200 post count requirement would deter many people from faking their id

 

I'd personally be a bit dissapointed if S.V.U got phased out. It's a very valuable asset for conducting business here. If its going to be done some sort of rank would seem appropriate as a replacement. I suggest something like "Active Trader" as a replacement to show that we are active in the marketplace (which sort of replaces S.V.U in the sense that it can be interpreted as more trustworthy)

I really dont want/care for miniranks or an extra 25$ to my donation amount since it wont show more than 200 anyway. Or just increase the amount to get S.V.U at 100+ donation + 150-200 post count requirement would deter many people from faking their id

Agreed that the requirements for SVU should be increased. A lot of people are going to miss the SVU rank. That's the real reason everyone bought it, to have another rank under their name.

 

Replace the $25 perk with another and add the $5 it costs to obtain the rank to their donation credit. There is no need to go all out and overcompensate for something so minuscule.

I'd personally be a bit dissapointed if S.V.U got phased out. It's a very valuable asset for conducting business here. If its going to be done some sort of rank would seem appropriate as a replacement. I suggest something like "Active Trader" as a replacement to show that we are active in the marketplace (which sort of replaces S.V.U in the sense that it can be interpreted as more trustworthy)

I really dont want/care for miniranks or an extra 25$ to my donation amount since it wont show more than 200 anyway. Or just increase the amount to get S.V.U at 100+ donation + 150-200 post count requirement would deter many people from faking their id

In what way is it a valuable asset for conducting business when the OP says members have been using fake information to obtain it? The rank itself is fool's gold. "Verified" and "Active Trader" aren't synonymous terms, so replacing one with the other doesn't make sense. Increasing the requirement to obtain the rank doesn't cancel out fake information being used, it only reduces the probability of it.

 

Replace the $25 perk with another and add the $5 it costs to obtain the rank to their donation credit. There is no need to go all out and overcompensate for something so minuscule.



In what way is it a valuable asset for conducting business when the OP says members have been using fake information to obtain it? The rank itself is fool's gold. "Verified" and "Active Trader" aren't synonymous terms, so replacing one with the other doesn't make sense. Increasing the requirement to obtain the rank doesn't cancel out fake information being used, it only reduces the probability of it.

Just because people used fake details to obtain it doesnt mean it's not a valuable asset (It's valuable because it might get someone to trade with you over someone who doesn't have it which is huge in a competitive market), it only proves that its valuable to trading here since people would even go through the hassle of faking details just to get it + scam. It's only devalued because of how easy the verification system is to bypass.

No replacement will be synonymous, nothing can replace a verified rank (unless its another verified rank), that's why I suggested something market related to replace it.. because most people who got S.V.U in the first place got it to get an extra rank

TL;DR - I'd be ok with another rank that is at least related to anything market related

 

[S]

Honestly, I'm fine with even getting a prizebox as compensation. Miniranks have no real reason to have a value attached to them when staff can hand them out any way they want to. Sure, miniranks are cool to have, they make the profile sections of posts much more interesting to look at. And if you think about it, prizeboxes probably shell out a random minirank and not a specific one, so the chances of it crashing its already arbitrary value, I have no real concern about receiving the prizebox as compensation.

Staff cant hand out miniranks. Only admins can, and its done only for events or what not.

 

[Saluki]

Staff cant hand out miniranks. Only admins can, and its done only for events or what not.

Then I'll just boil it down to "prizebox is a valid compensation." Lol

 

Just because people used fake details to obtain it doesnt mean it's not a valuable asset

Fake information compromises the function of the rank.

it only proves that its valuable to trading here since people would even go through the hassle of faking details just to get it + scam.

It's not a hassle to obtain by any means, in combination with the fact that it's inexpensive would suggest it's meretricious; fool's gold. It's valuable because it's cheap, easy to obtain, and useful for scamming?

It's only devalued because of how easy the verification system is to bypass.

"Only" would imply there are no other reasons for why it's devalued. I'll give another another reason using your own words.

faking details just to get it + scam

It's valuable because it might get someone to trade with you over someone who doesn't have it which is huge in a competitive market

Post count
Join date
Miniranks
Fun ranks
Forum rank
Amount donated

All these things have similar influence, yet lack substance. What is your definition of valuable?

No replacement will be synonymous, nothing can replace a verified rank (unless its another verified rank), that's why I suggested something market related to replace it.. because most people who got S.V.U in the first place got it to get an extra rank

That wasn't my argument. "Verified" and "Active Trader" are not synonymous in any way. You can have a verification rank and not be an active trader. The issue lies with the purpose of acquisition.

TL;DR - I'd be ok with another rank that is at least related to anything market related

No correlation.

 

[Drimble]

Why not just create a minirank and only give it to people who were already a svu. But keep the mini rank tradable. Everyone gets a mini rank so they are happy. No more miniranks of that one are incoming keeping it rare. And it's tradable so you can't base trust on it cuz sum1 could just have Boughton it afterwords. And for the people who don't give a shit about mini ranks well they can sell it and get some money back? I feel like this keeps literally everybody happy to an extent.

Lemme know what you think please.

 

[Punjabi3]

In my opinion it would be best to get more information to be verified for SVU.

Implementing risk levels based on location may help? This could be done based on address verification/ phone verification possibly. I'm not too sure on specifics but for example a phone company in USA would do more due diligence on a customer than a company in Ukraine would.

Alternatively, just give people the cost of SVU verification as a donation rank. The SVU shouldn't represent the level of trust it implies or title it what it truly is, "Phone Verification Completed"