Does God exist?

[Parox]

I'm in between, but leaning more into that God doesn't exist. The reason for this is because there is no real answer, and unless a real answer is found then I don't see a point in why people try to answer.

 

[Skane]

Let's first define the universe, and the implications of said definition.

The Universe: The totality of all existence.
This means that the Universe encompasses all of existence over the things that actually exist. This includes God, provided that he actually exists.

So, how did the totality of all existence, or in short, existence come to be? There are only 2 answers: existence had a beginning, or it is the case that existence had no beginning.

If existence had no beginning, then this implies that existence has always existed.
If existence had a beginning, this does not necessarily mean that something created existence.

Now, if existence had a beginning, it cannot be created by an existent (something that exists). This is due to the contradiction because if something where to create existence, it would imply that existence had already existed for the existent to create existence. Now, since God is considered an existent (something that exists), he cannot be the creator of existence, or, The Universe.

If we reject that existence had a beginning, then it means that the other alternative is that existence has always existed, which means that adding God into the equation is an extra complication.



As it stands, I don't believe in the existence of God because there is no empirical evidence that supports the existence of such a being. In addition, popular conceptions of God say this being has contradictory attributes which violate the law of non-contradiction, thus, these conceptions of God most certainly do not exist.

You have disproved God there. Religious people will refuse logic and reason to continue to believe in their fairy tale. Most of the people here either believe in God because
1. They were raised that way and/or
2. They are too ignorant to understand science

For those believers in here, the Bible has so many proven false fallacies in it, just go to youtube and watch Penn & Teller BS episode 8, Creationism. It should be an eye opener for you, since it is a factual show about disproving superstitious beliefs and other BS.

The bible, the only thing in the entire world that Christians believe shows that God exists in any way has so many "earth is square/flat and stands on pillars" statements in it that is ridiculous to take seriously. The only book about our supposed deity and it has wrong things like that in it? I doubt it. My body is ready for debate time.

 

[Snoopchicken]

You have disproved God there. Religious people will refuse logic and reason to continue to believe in their fairy tale. Most of the people here either believe in God because
1. They were raised that way and/or
2. They are too ignorant to understand science

Wow, way to commit a hasty generalization fallacy, considering you were just talking about the Bible's fallacies. Not everyone that believes in God is a Christian. Not everyone that believes in God is religious. And not everyone that believes in God doesn't understand science.

FYI, your bias will always hinder your ability to think - no matter what side you're on. That argument you gave fails to give a definition of existence in the first place. In any case, existence will always be defined by our five senses. So let's stick with that definition of existence for now. To make assumptions that "an existent cannot create existence" is using the word "existence" too comfortably. Existence is a state that we've defined for objects. Similar to how a class can define the state of all its corresponding objects in object oriented programming, we have given things that we can see, touch, hear, etc. the definition of "existing". But in reality, it's just that - a state. Like how when an object has little heat (which is energy - a measurable quantity, and thus, existent in our definition), we call it "cold". Yet cold does not exist. It is simply a state we have defined. There is no "existent" quantity for cold. So, considering a state equal to an object (which is what the arguer did when associating existence to the Universe in his argument) cannot be done so comfortably.

In any case, let's assume the argument is 100% flawless. What if existence had no beginning? Then God can enter the equation (according to the person arguing). Whether it's a complication or not is irrelevant - it still logically enters the equation. And to be honest, it would answer a lot of the God-of-the-gaps questions, so it's not really a complication.

 

[razorwire97]

I believe that God does exist. I don't believe in the bible though. If someone in a 3rd world country never hears of God and dies I don't believe that they will go to hell or where ever, but I do think that there has to be a higher being somewhere that set the world into motion. I don't think he sits up in the clouds and makes miracles. In my opinion the word God is too vague.

 

[symphony888]

Yes there is GOD. I have one GOD only. He is the one who created the whole universe. He is the creator of all. My religion, we can't see him. He can see us.

I believe he is ONE, I believe doomsday will come, I believe Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h is the only Messenger of ALLAH, I believe Al-Qu'ran is the last holy book of Islam, I believe in all the Angels HE had created, I believe in fate.

Therefore I believe HE exist because he is the one who created all this, he owns everything. Dunia(This world) is just a temporary place where Akhirat(The Hereafter) is the permanent place.

 

[Datchikk]

Yes there is GOD. I have one GOD only. He is the one who created the whole universe. He is the creator of all. My religion, we can't see him. He can see us.

I believe he is ONE, I believe doomsday will come, I believe Prophet Muhammad p.b.u.h is the only Messenger of ALLAH, I believe Al-Qu'ran is the last holy book of Islam, I believe in all the Angels HE had created, I believe in fate.

Therefore I believe HE exist because he is the one who created all this, he owns everything. Dunia(This world) is just a temporary place where Akhirat(The Hereafter) is the permanent place.

NGL that scares me ^

Also im unsure as in our lives we all have our "miracles" that are super human, and I would love to know there was a God that we would be safe and reunited with our family in heaven.

 

[imrealaboutbuyinggaia]

I can't believe the no option is winning lol...
I believe he exists.

 

[thrillakilla]

I don't understand why people use logic and rationality in every endeavor of their lives (i.e. not touching a stove when it's hot or not jumping in front of a speeding car) but when they arrive at the ultimate and arguably the most important truth of all, they blindly resort to faith.

 

[Castillo]

I believe in some sort of "God" whether it be a Christian being or some other deity. So, Yes.

My reasoning on the subject may be a bit construed, feel free to criticize. I believe in an after life, because I have seen ghosts, or at least something that was not alive and not completely on this plane of existence. Call it what you will. Some might say that this doesn't prove God, only an after life for the one experiencing it, if that. Well if there is an afterlife, and I believe there is something of the sort, and rules and laws that the dead have to abide by something would have to put these rules and laws into place. That's where God comes into the picture.

In short, Yes I believe in God because I believe there is an afterlife with rules that the dead abide by, because he said so.

 

[Divine_God]

I believe in some sort of "God" whether it be a Christian being or some other deity. So, Yes.

My reasoning on the subject may be a bit construed, feel free to criticize. I believe in an after life, because I have seen ghosts, or at least something that was not alive and not completely on this plane of existence. Call it what you will. Some might say that this doesn't prove God, only an after life for the one experiencing it, if that. Well if there is an afterlife, and I believe there is something of the sort, and rules and laws that the dead have to abide by something would have to put these rules and laws into place. That's where God comes into the picture.

In short, Yes I believe in God because I believe there is an afterlife with rules that the dead abide by, because he said so.

As flawed as your account with someone who was deceased is, having rules in an afterlife doesn't mean that there is a god governing them. They could simply be bound by the laws of nature/their society/culture.

 

[justinkiller]

Yes, I believe god exists.
It is funny, becuase the people trying to disprove god always end up saying rude things to people, all based on there religion.
Calling our beliefs a fairy tale, or saying we are too stupid to believe science is terrible, and you should be ashamed. What is so bad about having faith?

I believe in god because I want to. Not because I was raised that way, or because I am too stupid to understand science, which I am not.

People saying things like if god exists why does cancer exist? Or why do bad things happen?
You don't understand what god is. God is a constant reminder in our life to do better, to be a better person. It is up to god to decide when and how people leave earth. It may seem wrong to you, it may seem like he should want us all to live forever, but he wants us with him in heaven. The earth is just a stepping stone on your way to heaven. If you do right, you believe god, and you are a genuinely good person, you go to heaven. If you do wrong, you are a terrible human being, and you disrespect people based on there beliefs then you go to hell. Simple as that.

It just seems funny to me how people can be so mean to people because they want to have faith and believe in god. Can someone please explain that to me? Its not like I am saying because you don't believe in god you are crazy, and you are being controlled by the media and scientists. Have you ever seen proof, or done experiments on any of the things you quoted? Have you witnessed the big bang, or found proof for it? No, you just read about it. Sort of like reading the bible. Isn't that weird?

 

[hakan333]

No, god doesn't exist i was an ex muslim.
Prayed for like 7 years 5 times a day.

Result: Nothing i achieved nothing

So god doesnt exist for me

 

[T V]

No, god doesn't exist i was an ex muslim.
Prayed for like 7 years 5 times a day.

Result: Nothing i achieved nothing

So god doesnt exist for me

What were you trying to achieve by praying?

 

[Saint Grimm]

No, there is no "god". Man and woman are the direct decendants of "gods" there fore I am just as special as jesus was. if you worship jesus, you might as well worship every human in the world. as for "the gods" well thats simple. Odin will be letting us true warriors into Valhalla when we die.

Fight until the casket drops!

 

[malakadang]

Yes, I believe god exists.
It is funny, becuase the people trying to disprove god always end up saying rude things to people, all based on there religion.
Calling our beliefs a fairy tale, or saying we are too stupid to believe science is terrible, and you should be ashamed. What is so bad about having faith?

Well, faith is the belief about things in reality without any evidence, or logical proof to support their claim. If everyone did this, there could be no advancement in society, for if the standard of proof for a claim to be true is no evidence, then anything could be true, contradictory things could be true, and there would be chaos. So, faith as the foundation of ones belief is not a good thing.

I believe in god because I want to. Not because I was raised that way, or because I am too stupid to understand science, which I am not.

How do you know God exists though?

People saying things like if god exists why does cancer exist? Or why do bad things happen?
You don't understand what god is. God is a constant reminder in our life to do better, to be a better person. It is up to god to decide when and how people leave earth. It may seem wrong to you, it may seem like he should want us all to live forever, but he wants us with him in heaven. The earth is just a stepping stone on your way to heaven. If you do right, you believe god, and you are a genuinely good person, you go to heaven. If you do wrong, you are a terrible human being, and you disrespect people based on there beliefs then you go to hell. Simple as that

. Is God an actual entity? Also, your definition of God is very different from many other Christians around the world. How can we know your definition is the true definition?

It just seems funny to me how people can be so mean to people because they want to have faith and believe in god. Can someone please explain that to me? Its not like I am saying because you don't believe in god you are crazy, and you are being controlled by the media and scientists. Have you ever seen proof, or done experiments on any of the things you quoted? Have you witnessed the big bang, or found proof for it? No, you just read about it. Sort of like reading the bible. Isn't that weird?

We believe in these things because they have undergone peer review. This means that they have been scrutinized by experts in the field that will shave off any, and all claims that are incorrect, or unsupported. Besides, there is proof for the existence of the Big Bang.

Reading the bible however is not a good source of knowledge. You would need to show why the bible is a good source of knowledge. Can you?

 

[justinkiller]

Well, faith is the belief about things in reality without any evidence, or logical proof to support their claim. If everyone did this, there could be no advancement in society, for if the standard of proof for a claim to be true is no evidence, then anything could be true, contradictory things could be true, and there would be chaos. So, faith as the foundation of ones belief is not a good thing.

How do you know God exists though?

. Is God an actual entity? Also, your definition of God is very different from many other Christians around the world. How can we know your definition is the true definition?

We believe in these things because they have undergone peer review. This means that they have been scrutinized by experts in the field that will shave off any, and all claims that are incorrect, or unsupported. Besides, there is proof for the existence of the Big Bang.

Reading the bible however is not a good source of knowledge. You would need to show why the bible is a good source of knowledge. Can you?

I don't know god exists, I choose to believe that he does. That is my faith.

I didn't mean to say that the big bang did not happen, because I believe that it did. If you thought I meant that, I apologize. What I meant is if YOU have never seen it through your own eyes, how can you say it is true? You can't, you have to trust what your peers said, you said it yourself. They could all be in a huge secret group however, that is bent on making everyone believe something that is false. Now, I am not saying that is what is happening, I understand that it is not, and that would be ludicrous to believe. All I am saying is that the people in the bible are also our peers, and they all saw all of that stuff happen, so why can that not be true also?

 

[Jimmy]

What is so bad about having faith?

Nothing is bad about faith per se; however, its possessors often seek to impose their own will upon their peers or make poor choices on other subject matters as a result of their prejudices.

Have you ever seen proof, or done experiments on any of the things you quoted? Have you witnessed the big bang, or found proof for it? No, you just read about it. Sort of like reading the bible. Isn't that weird?

Reading about an experiment that was done and replicated from reputable sources is entirely different than believing that a man who lived 2,000 years ago rose from the dead.

You can't, you have to trust what your peers said, you said it yourself. They could all be in a huge secret group however, that is bent on making everyone believe something that is false.

It's possible, but this line of thinking is entirely fruitless. I could hypothesize about similar scenarios ad infinitum, but this would never get me any closer to the truth.

Now, I am not saying that is what is happening, I understand that it is not, and that would be ludicrous to believe. All I am saying is that the people in the bible are also our peers, and they all saw all of that stuff happen, so why can that not be true also?

Because the claims the Bible makes contradict everything else we know about the workings of the universe: the earth isn't 6,000 years old, there was never a worldwide flood, people's can't be born of virgins, people can't rise from the dead, etc. Why can't we trust the mythology of the ancient Greeks considering how much they knew about science, mathematics, and medicine?

 

[justinkiller]

Nothing is bad about faith per se; however, its possessors often seek to impose their own will upon their peers or make poor choices on other subject matters as a result of their prejudices.



Reading about an experiment that was done and replicated from reputable sources is entirely different than believing that a man who lived 2,000 years ago rose from the dead.



It's possible, but this line of thinking is entirely fruitless. I could hypothesize about similar scenarios ad infinitum, but this would never get me any closer to the truth.



Because the claims the Bible makes contradict everything else we know about the workings of the universe: the earth isn't 6,000 years old, there was never a worldwide flood, people's can't be born of virgins, people can't rise from the dead, etc. Why can't we trust the mythology of the ancient Greeks considering how much they knew about science, mathematics, and medicine?

The bolded and underlined part is absolutely true, and I wish there was a way to stop that. I do not let religion cloud my judgement, but sadly many do, and that gives all religious people a bad stigma.

I believe most of the far fetched stories in the bible are stories teaching you to be a better person, or to not judge so quickly. Like I said, I believe god is there just to push you in the right direction, and to be a reminder of doing the right thing.

 

[malakadang]

I don't know god exists, I choose to believe that he does. That is my faith.

For a debate that says 'Does God exist', don't you think 'I don't know' has little substance?

You place faith in the existence of God. Why do you not place faith in the existence of other beings?

I didn't mean to say that the big bang did not happen, because I believe that it did. If you thought I meant that, I apologize.

Ok.

What I meant is if YOU have never seen it through your own eyes, how can you say it is true?

Knowledge does not necessarily need to come from experience/the 5 senses. A priori is arguably the best source of knowledge IMO.

You can't, you have to trust what your peers said, you said it yourself.

You use reason/above.

They could all be in a huge secret group however, that is bent on making everyone believe something that is false.

It's possible, but this conspiracy theory has no evidence, and in accordance of Occam's Razor shouldn't be taken seriously because it is highly unlikely due to the superflous layers of complexity.

Now, I am not saying that is what is happening, I understand that it is not, and that would be ludicrous to believe. All I am saying is that the people in the bible are also our peers, and they all saw all of that stuff happen, so why can that not be true also?

How do you know the bible is non-fiction? Perhaps it was based on true events, but sensationalized and semi-fictional?

Why can't I pick up a fiction book and say, x book says this, therefore it's correct?

 

[Acubs]

I don't know if god, as we know, is real, but I'm pretty positive there's a higher power of some sort.