Atheism...

[Deacon Frost]

Then where did God come from?

That's the thing... you'd have to ask where did God not come from . (Because there's nothing... so it's coming from not. etc.).

I think that question is answerable through my perspective on life (even though many religious idiots fear it). Everything in moderation, including moderation is a cycle and runs in a pattern. IF God exists, then he has existed before, now, and forever. Which explains the reasoning of the bible. However, that does not explain Heaven and Hell. You do not go to Heaven or Hell, because you TOO exists before, now, and forever. It's a cycle, a pattern. The universe and everything in it runs in that pattern.

Forever can exist, but it has to end and start over.

 

[deadzone]

EDIT: Please make sure you clearly understand the discussion topic before posting.

I have a question for any atheists out there. I have been wondering this for a while.

What is the point of proving there is no God? Do you feel it gets you anywhere in life? If there is no God, it should not be a big deal, right?

I am just curious on what atheists think about this. Personally I think if they did not subconsciously believe in a God, they would not try to make their minds believe there is no God.

If you haven't guessed already, I am a Christian. I do not wish to debate my faith. It would not be interesting, as I would never change my beliefs. I simply want to know why some people preach atheism, as I cannot see anywhere they could believe it would get them.

Clearing it up:
This is not a "Does God exist?" thread. I am not asking that. I want to know only why atheists preach atheism, as if they do not believe in a God, there would be no heaven, so it does not get them anywhere after this life.

Then again I also think that people think too much about life... anyway let's hear some input!

To your first question, yes it is a big deal on the common knowledge of us (i am not an actual athiest, but I do not believe there is a god) to know that millions of people are wasting there live's for nothing praising a fake god and going by a fake religion,

your second question\comment, its not that subconsiously we believe there is one it's just kinda ignorant to watch all these people waste there life believing in something that has no proof , there is more proof god doesnt exist then he does.

3rd, if you dont want to put your own faith on trial why try to put others on trial, do you honestly believe other people believe so shallow in there own faith that you can convert someone?

I'm an atheist and i don't believe in a GOD i believe in my own theory that makes sense to me.

Every peron lives in what we call time everything we do did already happen...Its not for humans only its for everything that exists.
What happens when you die is that you are dead in this time. And everything starts over... its just a infinite loop that never ends.

that would be reincarnation your talking about which i believe is preached by budha

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i have 2 theories on life ,
1: when you die nothing happens you just shut down and nothing else, the world moves on. and your just a remnant,

2. the other (the if god is real theory) then going to heaven or hell, will be determined if your actions in life you actually believed you were in the right.if you believe something (even if by our standards it is bad) then you would be going to heaven and vise versa with hell, not because you kissed somebodies ass enough times to make it squeaky clean

 

[WinterDreamZ3]

that would be reincarnation your talking about which i believe is preached by budha

No... its not

Reincarnation, literally "to be made flesh again", is a doctrine or mystical belief that some essential part of a living being (in some variations only human beings) survives death to be reborn in a new body.
Wikipedia.

 

[Stuart]

I thought atheism was about not giving a damn about god...

Apparently im an atheist because I don't care about gods. For people who preach for and against gods existance are honestly just wasting their time. IMO

When you die your either gonna be proved right or wrong, till then stfu and live your life how YOU want to.

 

[Scared_of_Light]

EDIT: Please make sure you clearly understand the discussion topic before posting.

I have a question for any atheists out there. I have been wondering this for a while.

What is the point of proving there is no God? Do you feel it gets you anywhere in life? If there is no God, it should not be a big deal, right?

I am just curious on what atheists think about this. Personally I think if they did not subconsciously believe in a God, they would not try to make their minds believe there is no God.

If you haven't guessed already, I am a Christian. I do not wish to debate my faith. It would not be interesting, as I would never change my beliefs. I simply want to know why some people preach atheism, as I cannot see anywhere they could believe it would get them.

Clearing it up:
This is not a "Does God exist?" thread. I am not asking that. I want to know only why atheists preach atheism, as if they do not believe in a God, there would be no heaven, so it does not get them anywhere after this life.

Then again I also think that people think too much about life... anyway let's hear some input!

Put It This Way,
Just As Preachers Preach Christianity in Church.

Atheism Is The Same Way.

Theres Not A Why they Preach Atheism.
Because They Might Be Thinking...

Why Do Christians Preach Fourth Their GOD

Muslims,
Jewish,
Chinese,
Japanese,
ect.

All Have Their God.
Atheism May Not Support god.
But That Doesn't Give you the right to Question Their Religion.

~I'm Christian Also~

 

[Shredderbeam]

But That Doesn't Give you the right to Question Their Religion.

That's where something by the name of the "First Amendment" comes in. Free speech, etc.

 

[Food]

This Thread is to complex for my little mind. LOL.

 

[Ultralomaniac]

I am an atheist,
but i really want to believe that there is a god
it would bring more meaning to my life
i have tried COUNTLESS times to convince myself that god is real

...but i just can't
i want to, but i can't
It's just the way my brain works
i don't care what religion anyone believes in,
but i DO Believe that believing a god would give more purpose to your life.

 

[dpunk]

But That Doesn't Give you the right to Question Their Religion.

No right to question their religion? WHAT? If we don't have a right to question their religion by saying there is no God, then they don't have a right to question out Atheism by saying there is.

 

[Personal Jesus]

I thought atheism was about not giving a damn about god...

No, the word atheist is from latin. 'Theist' is latin for believer, and 'a' is latin for non. Add them together and you have nonbeliever.

When you die your either gonna be proved right or wrong, till then stfu and live your life how YOU want to.

See, this is a bit of a paradox. You tell people to shut the fuck up, and live life the way THEY want to live it. What if, they want to spend their life having religious debates?

Put It This Way,
Just As Preachers Preach Christianity in Church.

Atheism Is The Same Way.

Theres Not A Why they Preach Atheism.
Because They Might Be Thinking...

Why do you find it necessary to uppercase every first letter of a word? Do you think it makes you look grammatically correct? Or intelligent? Perhaps official? Trust me, it makes you look retarded.

I am an atheist,
but i really want to believe that there is a god
it would bring more meaning to my life
i have tried COUNTLESS times to convince myself that god is real

...but i just can't
i want to, but i can't
It's just the way my brain works
i don't care what religion anyone believes in,
but i DO Believe that believing a god would give more purpose to your life.

You cannot convince yourself to believe in something or not. Faith works like this; you either believe, you don't believe, or you are unsure. There are no in-betweens, and lying to yourself will only make you more confused on the matter.

I believe that we are His children and He is also someone else's child.

I believe you're pretty damn gullible and naive.

 

[Deacon Frost]

I believe that we are His children and He is also someone else's child.

Explain where your thinking comes from?

 

[Eric]

Most people believe in god becuase everyone eats spagetti as a child.

And with the topic atheism, people are always trying to prove others wrong. I dont not preach my beliefs, and neither should religious folks.

EDIT:: THIS PIC IS THE SHIT:

 

[dpunk]

Most people believe in god becuase everyone eats spagetti as a child.

And with the topic atheism, people are always trying to prove others wrong. I dont not preach my beliefs, and neither should religious folks.

EDIT:: THIS PIC IS THE SHIT:

LMAO!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!
/me dies laughing!!!!!!!!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!1
/me hands konvict111 a cookie for posting this pic

 

[Eric]

hehe, cookie for me

 

[deadzone]

No... its not

Reincarnation, literally "to be made flesh again", is a doctrine or mystical belief that some essential part of a living being (in some variations only human beings) survives death to be reborn in a new body.
Wikipedia.

and what do you think being made to flesh is? its coming back in a full circle you moron, which is exactly what he said, and yes it is preached by budha or one of the gods in or around inda, you basically proved further what i said and made yourself sound like a jackass so i ask you..

how do you feel about that?

That's where something by the name of the "First Amendment" comes in. Free speech, etc.

although this is true, you have to remember he said he did not want to put his faith up for debate, it is awfully rude to judge someones faith without putting your own into question.

 

[Shredderbeam]

Well, if he didn't want to debate his faith, he didn't have to come here.

Also, he, or anyone else, can feel free to question the fact that I am an Atheist.

 

[Spereff]

I think all of you are silly for pretending to be debaters.

We're starting out as newbies.


Atheists. Heh, they probably think Christians, Catholics...and other people who are involved with religion are ignorant. Well, that's just my opinion. I think that too. But like Theist said, what is the point of arguing with others who have a religion? Will it make a difference? Are you trying to convert the religious one into the religion, "Atheism." Hah, if you think about, you do have a religion. Atheism. You believe in a God that isn't a God, therfore there is no God?

Okay, I went weird there. >.<

 

[WinterDreamZ3]

and what do you think being made to flesh is? its coming back in a full circle you moron, which is exactly what he said, and yes it is preached by budha or one of the gods in or around inda, you basically proved further what i said and made yourself sound like a jackass so i ask you..

how do you feel about that?

... You don't get it do you? it was a quote on what you posted before... read below.

I'm an atheist and i don't believe in a GOD i believe in my own theory that makes sense to me.

Every peron lives in what we call time everything we do did already happen...Its not for humans only its for everything that exists.
What happens when you die is that you are dead in this time. And everything starts over... its just a infinite loop that never ends.

that would be reincarnation your talking about which i believe is preached by budha

Originally Posted by WinterDreamZ3 View Post
No... its not

Reincarnation, literally "to be made flesh again", is a doctrine or mystical belief that some essential part of a living being (in some variations only human beings) survives death to be reborn in a new body.
Wikipedia.

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What i believe has nothing to do with Reincanation it doesnt even look like it
When you die you will be death... no new life. (Reincanation means that when you die you will be reborn.) what i believe is that you will be born as the same person for me it will be in the year 1987.

Example.
Lets say i was born in 1987 and i die in 2008 people that are still living in 2008 will continue in this time for me it will start over again in a new time 1987 then i will die again in 2008 that process will go on forever and never ends.

 

[SlaveOfTheBeast]

On a note about God, and "forever", we can't understand it, we have a beginning and an end, and we can't understand the concept of no beginning or end. I've been reading the book "Mere Christianity" by CS. Lewis, it's given me a whole new perspective on theistic Christianity. He really makes some points that completely disprove alot of what atheists here have said.

 

[Eric]

Shit Slaves Back!!!!

lol and winter quoted himself