Why be an athiest?

[Cruel__Machine]

yes.atheists arent dumb.as a matter of fact i have a 4.0 gpa.

Since when did they start calculating GPA in preschool?

 

[reddogwwa]

Think this through.

Why would you be a athiest. You might want to believe there is no after life. There might be none, but what if there is? Why not believe in one just incase there is a after life and you fail to recieve it simply because you refuse to believe one. Whats wrong with a back up system for life?

Your believing in religion for the totally wrong reason. Your believing in it because theres that what if factor and your scared that there might be, and if there is and your atheist your going to "hell".

So now either way, because your believing for the wrong reason and its not a true faith. You shall go to hell with all the atheists, and rapists =p (if there is one)

I'm not atheist or in a religion I take everything into account. *everything*
ex- there could be Buddha, there might not
ex- Christ could have existed and performed miracles, or he never existed period
ex- Religion could be a crock of shit, and one giant scam, or the universe revolves around God.
You just don't know. I accept anything and everything when it comes to religion (how we came to exist etc. . .)

Thats what I always think of as a Christian. Most atheist are dumb fucks so they don't have the brain capacity to think that hard.

Atheists are dumb fucks? Is it because they question the true existence of a supreme being? Is it because they're not buying the gimmicks the church pulls?

LET ME GUESS! Is it because they're not following a religion blindly for the sake of having a religion?

Ive always seen church (not religion) as brain washing to tell you the truth, I used to hear the act of contrition being chanted by the followers in a scary monotone voice. They don't know what it really means, they're just saying it because the bible tells them to do so.

 

[Dorito]

wow dumbshit, athiests are dumbfucks? im 13 and however old you are I obviously have a larger brain capacity than you do. you just told us it takes someone with a higher level of intelligence to believe in something that can't be proven.

on topic! im an athiest for a few reasons:

1. it gives you a better sense of things around you that exist in your life, not a large forcus on things that arent involving your life.
2. i have come to notice that MANY athiest grasp the concept of life much better than those who believe in an after life.
3. id preffer to spend my time getting better at things i do and learning new things, rather than spending my life working for an after life.

Now you really must have a small brain capacity considering the three things you named have nothing to do with believing in a religion or not.

I believe in God, and I can guarantee you I have a much better sense of the things around me than you do, as well as people who are much smarter than you who believe in God. Void claim.

Second, that's once again an opinion. I can find someone or even use myself and once again say I can grasp the concept of life much better than other atheists, as well as vice versa, it depend on the person, not their beliefs. Void claim.

Last but not least. Just because you believe in a religion doesn't mean you spend your entire life on it. You can do both at the same time, easily. I can probably beat you in most physical skills, an opinionated statement. Void claim.

Feel free to try and debate that one again.

 

[Muffinator]

Plenty of religions don't restrain thought.

Really? Which would those be? Pastafarianism? Jedi?

And those last three points are simply awful!
Atheism in no way offers an appreciation of life nor morality. And "truth" is what pretty much all religions are based on... so that's plain retarded.

Are you a retarded monkey? None of what you just said has any truth or reason to it... Though by comparison I have to atleast give you props for grammar and spelling.
Appreciation of life: With atheism comes rejecting religion, and that almost always means rejecting the concept of afterlife, making for more appreciation of this life.
Following from disbelief of life after death, atheists create their own morals for morality's sake rather than being good only as an attempt to fulfill their own selfish goals.
As for religions being based on truth... Wow... Do I really need to explain what's wrong with that statement?

 

[Cruel__Machine]

Really? Which would those be? Pastafarianism? Jedi?

Allow me to develop an undeniable proof:
-I am religious/[of a religion].
-My thoughts are not restrained.
-And I am unrestrained whilst simultaneously still adhering to my religion.

Therefore, not all religions restrain thought.
But please... show we your proof that my thoughts are restrained. My thoughts have probably tread beyond your mental perimeter. So either this "restraint" is fairly liberal or you're just wrong.

Are you a retarded monkey?

Monkey? No.

Appreciation of life: With atheism comes rejecting religion, and that almost always means rejecting the concept of afterlife, making for more appreciation of this life.

Not necessarily. The absence of an afterlife deems this existence to have absolutely no meaning. Surely there are many Atheists who believe the loss of life is insignificant beyond the immediate emotional an economic affect. Do you deny that?

Following from disbelief of life after death, atheists create their own morals for morality's sake rather than being good only as an attempt to fulfill their own selfish goals.

Morality makes no logical sense outside of religion. Please explain otherwise.
And you generalize religion too much. Religion itself gains nothing, but I believe you mean to say that religious people obey morals simply to reap the rewards of the afterlife. The only problem with that is that selfishness is usually against those very morals. So if you have a problem with that, then it's a non issue... for they evidently won't reap what they desire.

As for religions being based on truth... Wow... Do I really need to explain what's wrong with that statement?

Hah, I'd say so. Otherwise I would've never commented on it.
Do not all religions claim to be true?
So how can Atheism provide anything different?
Oh wait... Atheism IS the truth... and you've been holding back the incredible evidence from the rest of the world. Please tell!

 

[Death Unit]

I'm not an atheist but I think most people here are atheist because, "it's cool" to be an atheist!

 

[Drengen]

Because you don't believe in it, just the way some people belive in "god", some in Buddha some in Allah.

Just believe in yourself and you "believing" is level 99!

__-* Ok. I don't believe in anything, but I would like to though. I think it's good to (using the great word you stated) have backup. I believe that God pushes believers up when they're down, and I would like to believe in him. But I don't know how to .. I don't wanna make a false believing, and I don't wanna use to much time.

But It's good to hear you believe in something =P?

Thats what I always think of as a Christian. Most atheist are dumb fucks so they don't have the brain capacity to think that hard.

Merry xmas

Don't be so generally ignorant. Just because people don't believe in God doesn't give them a natural claim on intelligence.

And Paladen, like Clash said, to be a Christian, you have to believe it.

well, you get "baptized" (right word?) as a christian, and as a half-year old baby you don't really have much of a choice.

So, official your christian. I am. But I don't believe in god or anything ..

 

[Atomic]

Think this through.

Why would you be a athiest. You might want to believe there is no after life. There might be none, but what if there is? Why not believe in one just incase there is a after life and you fail to recieve it simply because you refuse to believe one. Whats wrong with a back up system for life?

Assuming you're a Christian (though this would apply to many other religion) and have those beliefs, you sound to me like you're not getting into Heaven.

Simply believing in something "just in case it's true" so you have a "backup" is not true belief in God, and if this is what you think, then you're not a Christian and you will be unfortunately on your way to Hell. Christianity is about a relationship with God, not using him as a backup just in case he happens to exist when you die.

I'm not Christian myself, nor Atheist. I'm AoI.

 

[paladen]

Assuming you're a Christian (though this would apply to many other religion) and have those beliefs, you sound to me like you're not getting into Heaven.

Simply believing in something "just in case it's true" so you have a "backup" is not true belief in God, and if this is what you think, then you're not a Christian and you will be unfortunately on your way to Hell. Christianity is about a relationship with God, not using him as a backup just in case he happens to exist when you die.

I'm not Christian myself, nor Atheist. I'm AoI.

As I stated before, that was a example, I do believe in him and a after life, he is not my back up system, he is my system.

 

[Muffinator]

Allow me to develop an undeniable proof:
-I am religious/[of a religion].
-My thoughts are not restrained.
-And I am unrestrained whilst simultaneously still adhering to my religion.

Therefore, not all religions restrain thought.

That is neither undeniable nor proof. If your thoughts were unrestrained you wouldn't still be adhering to your religion.

Not necessarily. The absence of an afterlife deems this existence to have absolutely no meaning. Surely there are many Atheists who believe the loss of life is insignificant beyond the immediate emotional an economic affect. Do you deny that?

I have not met, seen, or heard of a single atheist that believes what you claim "many Atheists" believe. We accept that life has no "meaning"; we accept it for what it is rather than lying to ourselves.

Morality makes no logical sense outside of religion.Please explain otherwise.

On the contrary. I doubt you can cite very many religions that lack the concept of afterlife, and if you believe in life after death then:
If you believe in Heaven and Hell: Nothing good you do is for goodness' sake because it's only an attempt to get into Heaven. You can never truly be a good person because all your actions are selfish.
If you believe in a single afterlife that everyone goes to: Why be good in this life if you're just going to a better one when you die? Why not rape and murder if you feel like it?
If you believe in reincarnation: Read above. You can make up for it in your next life.

Hah, I'd say so. Otherwise I would've never commented on it.
Do not all religions claim to be true?
So how can Atheism provide anything different?
Oh wait... Atheism IS the truth... and you've been holding back the incredible evidence from the rest of the world. Please tell!

Atheists don't need any evidence; YOU have to prove your god. Though we probably CAN prove that your god doesn't exist if you tell us what he/it/she's like.

 

[Dorito]

Atheists don't need any evidence; YOU have to prove your god. Though we probably CAN prove that your god doesn't exist if you tell us what he/it/she's like.

I'm sorry, but that is by far the dumbest thing I have ever heard someone say.

We have to prove our God, yet you can just hope one doesn't exist and call it proof? No. It is impossible to prove or disprove the existence of God, which means we are back to square one, and you have no more facts than someone who does believe in God.

 

[mr n0obie2]

Its your choice to believe in something . dont judge someone and say there "dumb fucks" because they believe in something thats pretty rong. I myself am a christian but athiest are there and arent any different from us

 

[Shredderbeam]

I'm sorry, but that is by far the dumbest thing I have ever heard someone say.

We have to prove our God, yet you can just hope one doesn't exist and call it proof? No. It is impossible to prove or disprove the existence of God, which means we are back to square one, and you have no more facts than someone who does believe in God.

That's the one problem I have with Agnosticism. Yes, God is unprovable, but so are the Celestial Teapot, the Invisible Pink Unicorn, and the Flying Spaghetti Monster. In fact, nothing is provable, for to prove something, you have to assume the reliability of your senses and logic.

 

[Rahul]

yes.atheists arent dumb.as a matter of fact i have a 4.0 gpa.by the way,who are you to call stupid?christians dont make fun of other religions u fucking moron.btw christianity is a dead religion.along with jew...god is a cap.he is just some imaginary person who people think they can believe in so they can draw strength from their weak ass.people just use him as a shitty excuse to claim there "superior"in any way

You got a 4.0 and a .40 mixed up mate. You proved my point, thank you, lmfao.

 

[Cruel__Machine]

That is neither undeniable nor proof. If your thoughts were unrestrained you wouldn't still be adhering to your religion.

Care to explain?
Have an example of thought restriction in Christianity?

I have not met, seen, or heard of a single atheist that believes what you claim "many Atheists" believe.

I have met two. So now you've heard of some. And if I didn't believe in a God, I would feel the same.
Appreciating life is not logical (unless it's self-appreciation), and is logic not the focal point of Atheism? You gain nothing from enriching the lives of others save it be the hope of receiving the same from others. Is it not more logical to enrich yourself and get pleasure by any means necessary. For your existence is essentially the same as it would be if the universe was replaced by a state of nihility. The perpetuation of life is plain silly and pointless... why not live for the carnal moment only?

And explain how believing in life after death means that you don't appreciate this life? Because I just explained how Atheism doesn't necessarily entail a better "appreciation for life".

If you believe in Heaven and Hell: Nothing good you do is for goodness' sake because it's only an attempt to get into Heaven. You can never truly be a good person because all your actions are selfish.

Not necessarily true.
And why do you think being selfish is wrong? Because you say so? Outside of religion, it isn't inherently bad, that's just your opinion.

If you believe in a single afterlife that everyone goes to: Why be good in this life if you're just going to a better one when you die? Why not rape and murder if you feel like it?

lol... could I not say the same for people who believe in no afterlife?
Surely you're not trying to say that it's more probable for people to live "morally" when believing that no consequences exist as opposed to people who believe that even bad thoughts are sin and could have consequence.

And the entirety of your response to my request was irrelevant. I wanted you to explain how morality made logical sense outside of religion. How could morality possible exist when it's dependent on personal discernment? Therefore everyone would have different "morals". So saying Atheism provides morals is idiotic.

Atheists don't need any evidence; YOU have to prove your god. Though we probably CAN prove that your god doesn't exist if you tell us what he/it/she's like.

If you're saying Atheism is the truth, then you are saying God cannot possibly exist. Therefore you need to explain how it is an impossibility, which is impossible.
Else you should say that Atheism is the most probable truth and you merely doubt God's existence.

 

[megaman 2006]

I wouldn't want to believe in a god that makes me worship him.
What if there is a god but he just wants you to live your life, be nice and what not. What if he doesn't care if you believe in him or not? I would think that as long as you were nice and giving your entire life, that'd be enough to
go to heaven. It seems cruel to me that if some lady, spent her entire life working at homeless shelters, giving out food and beds to sleep in, was never mean to anyone, could go to hell because she doesn't believe in god

Personally, I'm open to the idea of there being a god, just not completely convinced by it.

 

[Cruel__Machine]

I wouldn't want to believe in a god that makes me worship him.

No religion I know of makes people worship...
And you shouldn't believe only what you want to believe.

What if there is a god but he just wants you to live your life, be nice and what not. What if he doesn't care if you believe in him or not? I would think that as long as you were nice and giving your entire life, that'd be enough to
go to heaven. It seems cruel to me that if some lady, spent her entire life working at homeless shelters, giving out food and beds to sleep in, was never mean to anyone, could go to hell because she doesn't believe in god

I agree to an extent.
Churches that teach that God practices justice, yet still sends the ignorant, retarded, and the unaccountable (like children and unborn babies) to hell (or some kind of similar state) contradict themselves. To find someone guilty of somethings they did not do is not justice in any form.

 

[amourpaix]

why athiest? first off, i respect other religions for sure.
but im athiest because, well, once you start questioning your religion, you start noticing MAJOR faults. and you start to realize, wow, there are a bunch of other reliegons, how do i know this one is right? and so on and so forth.
Jesus for example, i believe yes, Jesus was born, and he did all of what he did (except for the whole miracle part, i believe that was exaggerated). They say Everybody knew Jesus was the savior when he was born, but it seems his life doesnt start until he is 32 or 33. this makes me believe that JESUS created christianity, a man made religion, which happens a lot nowadays.
plus, christianity was created after civilization. the earth has been around for billions and billions of years. and god decides to take a part in it only 2000 years ago? i dont think so. which that leads to my next point, evolution. if we didnt evolve from other living things, that by the way, alot have very similar characteristics, how did we come to be human? the plot of christianity is just, god sent some humans down. thats about it. thats like, well, ill have every single living thing evolve except for humans. and cavemen? cavemen vs. adam and eve. adam and eve were supposedly the first humans on the planet according to christian belief. cavemen however, have been traced back over 50,000 years ago, and have the same charactersitics of other animals! and adam and eve are painted as, humans who have the same form as we do today, while cavemen, are furtherdown in the evolution chain.
but im not 100 percent dissing chrisianity, it may be real, it may be not. you chose what you want to put your life into.

 

[HyDroLiNk]

Think this through.

Why would you be a athiest. You might want to believe there is no after life. There might be none, but what if there is? Why not believe in one just incase there is a after life and you fail to recieve it simply because you refuse to believe one. Whats wrong with a back up system for life?

Also for those that think I use him as a back up system, I don't, I really do believe in him, and I was stating that for others.

I think your opinion is very wrong. You can't just convert to other religion just because you want to be secure after life.That's intolerable thing to said. Do you seriously think God doesn't know what you planned? Atheist is someone who feel arrogant and feels that he/she are just good enough and don't need a religion to make he/she be completed. This people usually can be found in hell after life.

 

[Clashfan]

Atheists are all arrogant? I'd argue that surely, based on that post, you'd be considered the arrogant one.