I think you are an idiot due to the fact of how much you generalize. I am an atheist and I never preach atheism, nor do I have any problem with any people of any religion.
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Religion and the existance of god is such a broad and easy topic to debate about its not even funny. My opinion is the universe was created from the big crunch/bang theroy where the previous universe imploded upon itself then exploded because of the massive density. Imagine all the matter of the entire expanding univerese in a ball no larger than your fist....
God is like a last resort for people to go when they dont or cant understand something. Like the evolution/creation of mankind. Since theres no records of what happened people just fall back on the God created it thing.
God is like a last resort for people to go when they dont or cant understand something. Like the evolution/creation of mankind. Since theres no records of what happened people just fall back on the God created it thing.
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Your right man. I deep down inside think there is a god. I just spend my time on the forums covering up for it.
I really have doubt in a god, nothing really can change that unless god himself came down and proved it.
Atheism, as far as i can understand it is a group of people that somehow have stumbled away from religen and are lost trying to find a reason for life,
they try and prove there is no god(s) Because they simply want to prove themselves right.
Everyone has their own beliefs but i will always stay a Christian
they try and prove there is no god(s) Because they simply want to prove themselves right.
Everyone has their own beliefs but i will always stay a Christian
Personal Jesus
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Theist91, you seem to believe that Christianity is an innocent concept, perhaps even positive. It's not. Christianity and religion in general has a lot more evil deeds than Atheism.
(The following words are all religions mixed together because I'm too lazy to seperate them)
Religious extremenists often unfairly take away peoples rights. Look at Jerry Falwell, the biggest douchebag to ever walk this planet - He closed gay and lesbian bars and clubs, banned pornography and threatened with Heaven and Hell. You have suicide bombers who blows themself and a bus of innocent school children up, to slay in the name of Allah. The Ku Klux Klan torturing and murdering black people because that's how they interpreted the Bible. And let's not forget that the Christian churches was the number one obstacle in the quest for giving women equal rights as men, as well as giving black people equal rights as white people.
"The Bible and the Church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way of women's emancipation." - Elizabeth Cady Stanton, American suffragist 1815-1902.
Religious missionaries spreads a contagious disease, called stupidity. (And yes, I am fully aware of the fact that stupidity is not a disease, but a state of mind.)
They teach people to accept divine fictional forces and pray, instead of doing something which would actually make a difference. A man is sick, and he needs help. Christians pray for him, whereas intelligent doctors saves his life via medical science. What's next? Oh, that's right - It's a miracle of God, despite the fact that God didn't actually do shit, and the doctors did all the dirty work.
Instead of exposing people for religious propaganda, why not teach them true values? Such as evolution and atoms which pretty much disproved the Bible and the story about God creating Earth with a poof, 6000 years ago? No, science has already proved that Earth is over 4.6 billion years old, thanks to rock samples from within Earth.
My theory about ALL religious people being close-minded, ignorant mediocres still stands. I'm aware that stating this makes me seem ignorant, but so far every religious people I have debate with, have proved this theory right.
"All religions bear traces of the fact that they arose during the intellectual immaturity of the human race before it had learned the obligations to speak the truth. Not one of them makes it the duty of its God to be truthful and understandable in his communications." Friedrich Nietzsche, German philologist and philosopher 1844 - 1900.
I have more examples which would lead people to the conclusion that Atheism is the path to go, but I'm afraid "it won't make sense" to the average religious person posting on this board.
(The following words are all religions mixed together because I'm too lazy to seperate them)
Religious extremenists often unfairly take away peoples rights. Look at Jerry Falwell, the biggest douchebag to ever walk this planet - He closed gay and lesbian bars and clubs, banned pornography and threatened with Heaven and Hell. You have suicide bombers who blows themself and a bus of innocent school children up, to slay in the name of Allah. The Ku Klux Klan torturing and murdering black people because that's how they interpreted the Bible. And let's not forget that the Christian churches was the number one obstacle in the quest for giving women equal rights as men, as well as giving black people equal rights as white people.
"The Bible and the Church have been the greatest stumbling blocks in the way of women's emancipation." - Elizabeth Cady Stanton, American suffragist 1815-1902.
Religious missionaries spreads a contagious disease, called stupidity. (And yes, I am fully aware of the fact that stupidity is not a disease, but a state of mind.)
They teach people to accept divine fictional forces and pray, instead of doing something which would actually make a difference. A man is sick, and he needs help. Christians pray for him, whereas intelligent doctors saves his life via medical science. What's next? Oh, that's right - It's a miracle of God, despite the fact that God didn't actually do shit, and the doctors did all the dirty work.
Instead of exposing people for religious propaganda, why not teach them true values? Such as evolution and atoms which pretty much disproved the Bible and the story about God creating Earth with a poof, 6000 years ago? No, science has already proved that Earth is over 4.6 billion years old, thanks to rock samples from within Earth.
My theory about ALL religious people being close-minded, ignorant mediocres still stands. I'm aware that stating this makes me seem ignorant, but so far every religious people I have debate with, have proved this theory right.
"All religions bear traces of the fact that they arose during the intellectual immaturity of the human race before it had learned the obligations to speak the truth. Not one of them makes it the duty of its God to be truthful and understandable in his communications." Friedrich Nietzsche, German philologist and philosopher 1844 - 1900.
I have more examples which would lead people to the conclusion that Atheism is the path to go, but I'm afraid "it won't make sense" to the average religious person posting on this board.
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Im Christian and i hate religious people who think the bible is perfect the bible has been edited many times
Athiests can be blind sometimes but i think generally the athiests know more about the "real Christianity" then christians
The Roman Catholics are to blame for corrupt pope/priests/bible editors
Religion's are fading away I think the world would be better if everyone was just athiests (even though i am christian) no more wars "In the name of GOD" no more people molesting over 100 children (except M. Jackson) but peopel need faith to keep them going It would also be fine If everyone was Christian (not catholic though.)
I don't understand soemthing about Christians people hating Athiests instead of jews (I don't hate jews or athiests) but if you believe someone is your god's son and one group of people murders your god's son wouldn't you try to kill that whole group of people?
another questions why is it that if you talk to God your religious if god talks to you your insane?
Athiests can be blind sometimes but i think generally the athiests know more about the "real Christianity" then christians
The Roman Catholics are to blame for corrupt pope/priests/bible editors
Religion's are fading away I think the world would be better if everyone was just athiests (even though i am christian) no more wars "In the name of GOD" no more people molesting over 100 children (except M. Jackson) but peopel need faith to keep them going It would also be fine If everyone was Christian (not catholic though.)
I don't understand soemthing about Christians people hating Athiests instead of jews (I don't hate jews or athiests) but if you believe someone is your god's son and one group of people murders your god's son wouldn't you try to kill that whole group of people?
another questions why is it that if you talk to God your religious if god talks to you your insane?
I preach Atheism because I try to fight ignorance every time I see it. In my opinion, religion is ignorance, therefore I fight it.
Call me an idealist, call me a warrior of truth, whatever. I just enjoy crushing religious zealots in arguments.
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I also debate atheists because i see them as quite ignorant, if you think god is impossible, there being no god is impossible. If god was never there, where did it all come from, if there was always something there, it must be eternal, and from nothing comes nothing, so something always had to exist, and nothing physical can last forever, therefore, i see there are greater things at work.
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You can't really generalize that nothing physical will last forever since matter can't be created or destroyed. Who's to say that everything hasn't always been, but has been present in different forms?
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Because something can't come from nothing.
I don't think it impossible for there to be some sort of creating force. I just don't think that said force is the benevolent God of the Bible/Koran, or even that it's remotely intelligent.
Perhaps the universe was born of the highest plane of reality; who knows? All that I can say is that no intelligent being would desire anything but an end to its existence, as an infinite being would already have thought every possible thought, and would have no reason to exist.
dpunk
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But that doesn't mean that there was ever nothing. If there wasn't ever a time when there was nothing, then physical matter would have to last forever, since it can't be created or destroyed.
Since its such an old religion, its like an old man. Should be euthanized.
No religion, no extremists. Problem solved.
Anyone who isn't atheist is narrow minded.
Before you reduce your exterior opinions to rubble, I suggest you check who you are calling an untrained mind. Before you even go preaching about how feeble your mind is, just for standing up to religion-- don't go telling others who know that there is no religion your own viewpoint.
Anyone who does that needs to get a social life.
Sorry, did that junk way back when I was in grade 10. I hated it, it was like "The woman shall be your slave." Fuck religion.
To disprove you, look here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdVucvo-kDU
Atheists are better then any religion combined. Nice try, you fail.
Thanks at attempting to twist words, frail attempts go unnoticed, but I'll address this invalid point anyways.
Quote me where I said I want anarchy?
Our freedom is based on Christianity? Oh, joy. Now I have more reasons to despise religion.
Please, quit any religion you are in. If you are atheist, you are one step closer to opening your mind.
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Not a funny joke.
There are alot of people that go radical for hundreds of different causes.
I'm not an atheist and i'm not narrow minded. That statement sounded narrow minded.
Then don't come telling people who know there is god (so they think) there isn't. Your opinion is just as unproven as theirs. Hypocrite.
You seem to study the fact there is no god?
That didn't make sense.
That was just showing your a bunch of atheists who have done good things, and there are many religious people who have done just as good things...
Freedom isn't based around religion.
No one cares.
Let me fix that for you
"Hundreds of different religious causes".
Wow, oxymoron? "Im not an atheist and not narrow minded"
Antithesis more?
Are you KIDDING me?
These following video's prove religion wrong.
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I seem to know that fact.
Small minds can't comprehend much.
Defeat yourself in the same sentance?
Logical, my friend, logical...
And religion isn't based around freedom. Go read the Koran or the Old Testament.
You are the pinnacle of stupidity. Why don't I reject something stupid like, for example-- The Flat Earth Society.cstrike said:
We all know it scientifically is incorrect, because its ridiculous. I can close my mind to all the shit you manage to believe in. I'll leave my brain open to new ideas on how to save humanity, or help cure cancer... instead of learning how some pseudo-god will care for everyone after they die.
Thats just fucking retarded, and so are you.
Get a CAT scan, maybe your ignorance is the result of a tumor. Hopefully it is, so you can die a painful death you gladly deserve.
Let your "God" save you, or whatever the shit you have faith in.
Good debate going on, yet calm down, I don't want to start handing out infractions, etc.
Cstrike, you seem to have no clue as to what you are talking about. The ideals you believe in come from a false sense of security, and show no real signs of improving. You have not proven a point, simply made yourself look stupid. For one, you contradict everything you say, and yet flame others for not agreeing with your idiocy.
Please desist.
To go on and explain religion, or disprove it, is simply a waste of time. You cannot prove that somethng doesn't exist if it doesn't exist. Meaning, you feel that God does not exist, therefore you cannot prove that God does not exist without MAKING him exist. You are giving a name to that which you wish to disprove, and as such make yourself look even more like an idiot.
Furthermore, your attempt to disprove that which does not exist has undoubtedly shown your inability to argue. You try to fight, but all you can do is insult, making it seem that you are insecure in your own lifestyle and ideals. Thus, making your entire arguement, or attempt to prove anything, void.
To the topic... I believe some athiests preach as they do because they simply have a need for confirmation. If you can show an athiest solid evidence that they are wrong, unless they are insecure like Cstrike, then they will more than likely rethink all of their ideals.
The Christians who preach, and attempt to force a religion down your throat are as bad as Cstrike, (not trying to flame you, but you make a perfect example), as they are too insecure in their own beliefs, and feel that proving themselves right to another increases their own sense of faith. Letting either be right an arguement, simply gives them more reason to argue. You make them think that they are correct no matter what they do or say and that ensures that they won't be changing their opinion any time soon.
Eh, I'll let someone rebuttal or agree now...
Please desist.
To go on and explain religion, or disprove it, is simply a waste of time. You cannot prove that somethng doesn't exist if it doesn't exist. Meaning, you feel that God does not exist, therefore you cannot prove that God does not exist without MAKING him exist. You are giving a name to that which you wish to disprove, and as such make yourself look even more like an idiot.
Furthermore, your attempt to disprove that which does not exist has undoubtedly shown your inability to argue. You try to fight, but all you can do is insult, making it seem that you are insecure in your own lifestyle and ideals. Thus, making your entire arguement, or attempt to prove anything, void.
To the topic... I believe some athiests preach as they do because they simply have a need for confirmation. If you can show an athiest solid evidence that they are wrong, unless they are insecure like Cstrike, then they will more than likely rethink all of their ideals.
The Christians who preach, and attempt to force a religion down your throat are as bad as Cstrike, (not trying to flame you, but you make a perfect example), as they are too insecure in their own beliefs, and feel that proving themselves right to another increases their own sense of faith. Letting either be right an arguement, simply gives them more reason to argue. You make them think that they are correct no matter what they do or say and that ensures that they won't be changing their opinion any time soon.
Eh, I'll let someone rebuttal or agree now...
Then where did God come from?
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