Why Christianity

[Oxytocin]

I heard this argument from my brother, who is a very strong believer. He understands that there is no way to prove or disprove god. To him it seems more logical to have faith because if god was not true there would be no point to life anyways. If it is true, he will go to heaven (rather than hell) and it will all be worth it. The evil that created religion used very manipulative tactics. It is designed to discourage it's followers from questioning gods existence.

A christian usually will see no point in their life if there is no life after death. The belief in god is a mockery of the complexity and beauty in mere existence.

 

[Gonzo Joe]

Whilst I agree to some extent, I think it's slightly disrespectful to say it "sucks". People can believe what they want to, but it does annoy me when people try to push their religious views on other people.

I rarely see this happen though, every Christian I have ever met has always been really friendly, some of them party hard too lol .

 

[angus07]

i agree mostly. but do you realize when your brother says "it seems more logical to have faith because if god was not true there would be no point to life anyways"....this supports the idea of your last couple sentences (that the system is made of manipulative tactics...which it is). You see...it manipulates his train of thought so that no matter what he ends up believing anyway..

 

[Oxytocin]

Whilst I agree to some extent, I think it's slightly disrespectful to say it "sucks". People can believe what they want to, but it does annoy me when people try to push their religious views on other people.

I rarely see this happen though, every Christian I have ever met has always been really friendly, some of them party hard too lol .

Love the avatar .

But that is not the point. Religious people can be very friendly, and intelligent, and party hard. Their beliefs change the choices they make. A pastor could have devoted his entire life to god, and converted many other people. If only he knew how much happier he would be if he wasn't bound and manipulated by tactics put forth by people who wanted control mankind. Perhaps he would have become a scientist instead, and discovered a new type of renewable energy or a medicine.

i agree mostly. but do you realize when your brother says "it seems more logical to have faith because if god was not true there would be no point to life anyways"....this supports the idea of your last couple sentences (that the system is made of manipulative tactics...which it is). You see...it manipulates his train of thought so that no matter what he ends up believing anyway..

Yes, that is the point I was trying to get across .

 

[Rsaccounttrader]

I don't understand your argument. What do you mean? Are you saying christianity reduces the importance of live on earth as it promises an afterlife?

 

[PROficient]

Beliefs are neat, cherish them... but don't speak them as the truth. <- Everything you will ever need to hear, just leave it at that.

 

[capper4lyf]

Haha this is funny not really a big argument but i see the point your trying to get to. Anyways this brings up something that i learnt recently, back in those times before and after Jesus was alive religion was actually used to keep crime limited, pretty much people were brainwashed with the whole behave and you go to heaven and be blessed or misbehave and go to hell and it was necessary because the conditions were rough back then and alot of people were poor and really didn't have much to live for so committing a crime was no problem for them and the rich people were usually the ones who really got the church going were the rich and the taxing of the poor also, but really thats so smart while they were already struggling as it was they tax of them anyways and whats to say churches arent for the same purpose now? Just to control the community in any sort of way.

There was someone who actually founded this idea but i cant remember his name.

 

[z Revs]

Haha this is funny not really a big argument but i see the point your trying to get to. Anyways this brings up something that i learnt recently, back in those times before and after Jesus was alive religion was actually used to keep crime limited, pretty much people were brainwashed with the whole behave and you go to heaven and be blessed or misbehave and go to hell and it was necessary because the conditions were rough back then and alot of people were poor and really didn't have much to live for so committing a crime was no problem for them and the rich people were usually the ones who really got the church going were the rich and the taxing of the poor also, but really thats so smart while they were already struggling as it was they tax of them anyways and whats to say churches arent for the same purpose now? Just to control the community in any sort of way.

There was someone who actually founded this idea but i cant remember his name.

Longest sentence ever. It's clever because you would never realize its a question until he puts the question mark at the end. Sorry for troll

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I like how all of Christianity sucks because of what your brother believes. Who is really the ignorant one here :/

 

[Constitution]

Your brother is very confused.

 

[The eBay TRS]

I say leave your brother be, if he wants to believe in God, let him. I'm not going to debate here because there is no point and nothing will come out of topics about religion and God.

 

[capper4lyf]

Longest sentence ever. It's clever because you would never realize its a question until he puts the question mark at the end. Sorry for troll

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I like how all of Christianity sucks because of what your brother believes. Who is really the ignorant one here :/

Lol thanks for that, yeah i when im typing i dont look at the screen and i just keep going so i dont really care about punctuation like really...

yeah im in a similar situation as this guy but thats not the reason why im against Christianity.

 

[z Revs]

Lol thanks for that, yeah i when im typing i dont look at the screen and i just keep going so i dont really care about punctuation like really...

yeah im in a similar situation as this guy but thats not the reason why im against Christianity.

If you don't mind me asking, why are you against Christianity?

 

[Trinity19]

I like the fact that your brother is a strong believer because of the whole:

"To him it seems more logical to have faith because if god was not true there would be no point to life anyways. If it is true, he will go to heaven (rather than hell) and it will all be worth it."

1.) It's incredibly insulting to logic to hear him say that in any way his process is logical. That's the same as me hitting my neighbor with an egg just as the sun comes up, so therefor it's the best logical choice to always hit my neighbor with an egg so the sun always comes up.

2.) If he believes in Christianity for that reason, then he's going to hell anyways because the church and the religion itself has made it clear that believing just so you can get into heaven will not be a rewarding path.

 

[capper4lyf]

If you don't mind me asking, why are you against Christianity?

Well actually im not against it really it just gets on my nerves sometimes when i hear someone say i believe in god because i experienced this and that and i just think dude your just making shit up in your mind. Thats not what put me of religion though its many things they all stack up together and just doesn't seem right to me. I cant be bothered explaining my whole point of view and what i just typed maybe a little trashy im just rushing a little..

 

[RmcStudios]

Why believe a religion who has contributed with WAR only...



" YOU SHALL NOT KILL " = but its okay to kill "in gods name".

Why believe a religion of what the fundaments are wrong....
" the world is 5000 years old..." as we all know its,way way way way more elder then that...so if thats wrong...why should the rest be right? think about that..


Christianity = the biggest scam/lure in the world...look howmuch they make every day

 

[z Revs]

1.) God is omnipotent.
2.) Can God create a rock so heavy he cannot lift it?
3.) If yes, he is not omnipotent.
4.) If no, he is not omnipotent.
5.) Omnipotence is logically impossible.
6.) An omnipotent God cannot exist.
7.) One of God's key predicates is omnipotence.
8.) God does not exist.

An omnipotent God can also defy logic. Do you know the definition of omnipotent?

 

[Trinity19]

An omnipotent God can also defy logic. Do you know the definition of omnipotent?

Do you understand how logic would work in this situation? Defying logic is impossible because that causes a contradictory situation that even god can't escape.

Let's put it this way, say god can create a stone so large that it can't be lifted by anyone not even god. So before he was omnipotent because he had the ability to do such a thing but after doing so he lost that omnipotence.
So this situation makes no sense, he can do something, unless he does it then he can't do it.

 

[z Revs]

Do you understand how logic would work in this situation? Defying logic is impossible because that causes a contradictory situation that even god can't escape.

Let's put it this way, say god can create a stone so large that it can't be lifted by anyone not even god. So before he was omnipotent because he had the ability to do such a thing but after doing so he lost that omnipotence.
So this situation makes no sense, he can do something, unless he does it then he can't do it.

You're missing my point. All because you come up with a 'logical' way to defy omnipotence doesn't mean you have disproven omnipotence. Point is, you can't logically disprove omnipotence, because its omnipotence.

 

[Miracle Man]

The point of life is to get your genes to the next generation

If God existed and was all knowing, wouldn't he know you were only believing in him because you were afraid of the alternative? (Although I'm imagining that's why a good amount of people believe)

 

[z Revs]

The point of life is to get your genes to the next generation

If God existed and was all knowing, wouldn't he know you were only believing in him because you were afraid of the alternative? (Although I'm imagining that's why a good amount of people believe)

Of course he would know.. the point of believing in God is not because one is afraid of the alternative. If that's the reason one believes, then they are wrong.