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Logical proof that God exists

reef shipping said:
Yes, all matter is indestructible, but the physical beings they represent aren't. We as humans can become non-existent. The matter that makes us up, it is perfect. Perhaps that physical matter is god?

If you want to argue that indestructibility entails Godhood, then sure, all matter is God. That's just a play on definitions, though, and doesn't really prove the existence of the Judeo-Christian God.

reef shipping said:
EDIT:- Matter can also create non physical existence. take our minds for example, our thoughts stem from our brain which certainly contains physical matter however our thoughts, the don't seem to have any physical existence, they are there however. who said that other layer had to be directly physical.

Our thoughts are based upon synapses. When they are damaged, our thoughts, behaviors, and memories are damaged.
 
If you want to argue that indestructibility entails Godhood, then sure, all matter is God. That's just a play on definitions, though, and doesn't really prove the existence of the Judeo-Christian God.

Indestructibility, is one quality that god must have. If he wasn't indestructible, there could be something more powerful that could end his existence, defeating the point of having a god.

Christians believe god was the creator of all matter. However they are also dualists, believing there are two parts to a being, the physical indestructible matter and a "soul". In several places in the bible (and the jewish scriptures) it states your soul can be damaged, this implies non-godliness but how can something that does not physically exist be damaged? it would require something that is all powerful (perfect) to decide what the state of the soul is.


Our thoughts are based upon synapses. When they are damaged, our thoughts, behaviors, and memories are damaged.

Ok. I'm no expert on human biology, but another example could be Team spirit. this has no physical existence, like our thoughts, it can be lost how ever team that works well together to perform, is said to have this trait.
 
reef shipping said:
Indestructibility, is one quality that god must have. If he wasn't indestructible, there could be something more powerful that could end his existence, defeating the point of having a god.

Cool.

reef shipping said:
Christians believe god was the creator of all matter. However they are also dualists, believing there are two parts to a being, the physical indestructible matter and a "soul". In several places in the bible (and the jewish scriptures) it states your soul can be damaged, this implies non-godliness but how can something that does not physically exist be damaged? it would require something that is all powerful (perfect) to decide what the state of the soul is.

Well, I generally hold that the Bible and Jewish scriptures are not correct in every single claim made.

reef shipping said:
Ok. I'm no expert on human biology, but another example could be Team spirit. this has no physical existence, like our thoughts, it can be lost how ever team that works well together to perform, is said to have this trait.

It has a physical existence. As pack animals, we are wired to work together. Those that couldn't died. A pack animal that enjoys working together will likely be more willing to do it than one who does not enjoy it.
 

I know =p


Well, I generally hold that the Bible and Jewish scriptures are not correct in every single claim made.

No but they are all we have to go on if arguing a Christian god.

It has a physical existence. As pack animals, we are wired to work together. Those that couldn't died. A pack animal that enjoys working together will likely be more willing to do it than one who does not enjoy it.

I'm not quite sure how this implys team spirit has physical existence. Yes the players (pack animal) is physical, but the bond that they share certainly isn't. it has no physical structure and follows no physical laws.
 
perfect = Indestructible. If a being was perfect, it would not be able to be destroyed. This is because the state of being perfect would mean you are 100% best.

Another term you could use is "all powerful".


And it is used in the bible, And how come its not possible to be Inderstructable.
 
reef shipping said:
I'm not quite sure how this implys team spirit has physical existence. Yes the players (pack animal) is physical, but the bond that they share certainly isn't. it has no physical structure and follows no physical laws.

All feelings are based in the brain. Happiness is based upon chemicals and brain activity, as is sadness.
 
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