"But you call me a racist"

[Personal Jesus]

Admittedly the whole racism thing is a bit one sided. But i personally think that after the years of slavery the african american society had to go through its their right to take revenge, and they are doing it in anon-violent way as racists. And not jus tthe slavery, the, segregation and lack of rights that followed it was appalling

And what exactly gives black people the right to take revenge on us, simpy for being white, when we never participated, supported or in anyway contributed to slavery?

It's bullshit, I don't have to take the blame for something my ancestors are guilty of.

 

[Fallen Soul]

And what exactly gives black people the right to take revenge on us, simpy for being white, when we never participated, supported or in anyway contributed to slavery?

It's bullshit, I don't have to take the blame for something my ancestors are guilty of.

EXACTLY!! Dude you have to be fucking kidding if I'm going to be blamed for something I didn't do, basically blaming me for being white is fucked up. When I never chose to be white nor could I help it. Its bullshit. I was going to take this matter as just some ignorant people but if you seriously want to think then your one sad human being. I do think it was shit how they treated them back then and how some of society still does today but to blame all white people for it is retarded.

 

[Faskist]

the KKK IS a pro white organization..

xDD

if you go to the KKK website i'm sure they have something confirming this

I mean, what did you think the KKK was?

xDD

and what can we to do change the views on the KKK?

nothing

just like we can do nothing to change the views on pro-black organizations..

I think you are getting confusing the "media's" view of these groups with what they truly are

There is a difference between pro-white and pro-white and anti-black. Do you think pro-black groups like the NAACP hate white people? No- of course not, black people can't be racist!

ok

i've built up enough patience to deal with you again

xD

yes Africa is an extremely poverty stricken continent, wasn't debating that

the ignorance I was referring to, was you asking me to stop "bigging up" blacks because they don't deserve it

and telling me about my "vision of Africa", which I didn't even mention in that post (was really just a racist generalization of African American views as a whole)

I don't think I have to really point out the ignorance in that, do I?

Black people get a lot of unnecessary praise, half from people like Jesse Jackson who just abuse their positions and the other half from racist people terrified that black people will rise up violently against their former slavemasters (ie. ignorant liberals with guilt).

There is no justice in blaming us for the actions of our ancestors. They were racists, they held black people as slaves, its their fault, not ours. We are a new generation, and we cannot, in any way whatsoever, be held responsible for the actions of other white people - simply because we're white too.

Hey, you're preaching to the choir. Tell a black guy that all the rapists in the past (http://robertsrationale.********.com/2007/01/duke-case-and-interracial-rape.html - the stars cover the word web log spot - is a good source, as it actually sources the official US Dept. of Justice's NCVS, and defends black people against inflammatory and insane claims of 200:1 ratios of violence - the article has excellent balance) are his fault, and you're a racist. But tell a white guy he owes reparations for slavery, and watch him bend over and lick your shoes to avoid being seen as racist himself!

Generally speaking "black" people when saying things like that AREN'T being cruel intentionally. i.e. calling a woman a bitch to their friends is the same, they say it but don't actually MEAN that they think their girlfriend/wife is a bitch.

Admittedly the whole racism thing is a bit one sided. But i personally think that after the years of slavery the african american society had to go through its their right to take revenge, and they are doing it in anon-violent way as racists. And not jus tthe slavery, the, segregation and lack of rights that followed it was appalling

Excuse me, I'm just going to beat up some Romans because fucking ages ago they enslaved the Britons, treated them like shit (Much worse than black people) and took away their rights. Wait, no.

I think the United Negro College Fund was created for the abundance of unfortunate blacks

and being that whites aren't necessarily viewed as unfortunate (not saying that there aren't poor whites), it wouldn't really be beneficial to raise for funds for them

I'm sure glad you think policies are good based on the general perception of a race, while admitting that that perception is wrong. That's not racist at all, nice work.

 

[MosDef]

NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FEEL

when we are discriminated against for something other people of the same color have done, just as you white people are discriminated against for something your ancestors have done

deal with it

why are you whining ?

you do not lose jobs because of your skin color..

you are not constantly surveyed when browsing the grocery stores

you are not victims of a racist judge decision

now i'm getting angry

WHAT DO BLACK PEOPLE HAVE TO DO WITH THE WAY YOU ARE VIEWED IN THE MEDIA?

do you REALLY think black people give a damn about how whites are being discriminated against?

I mean be honest

after alllll the injustices white people have done to us

do you honestly think, whether it was your ancestors committing these injustices or not


we would give a damn?

and you guys act like racism still doesn't exist today

you act like people aren't hanging nooses on black peoples doorknobs

you act like there isn't internal segregation in schools down south

WE ARE STILL DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BECAUSE OF THINGS PEOPLE OF OUR SAME RACE DID

JUST AS YOU ARE "DISCRIMINATED" AGAINST BECAUSE OF WHAT PEOPLE OF YOUR RACE DID

DEAL WITH IT, WE DON'T CARE



smh

you're always complaining and don't even understand how good you have it

 

[MosDef]

And what exactly gives black people the right to take revenge on us, simpy for being white, when we never participated, supported or in anyway contributed to slavery?

It's bullshit, I don't have to take the blame for something my ancestors are guilty of.

AND THERE ARE BLACK PEOPLE WHO HAVE NEVER PARTICIPATED IN CRIME

SO WHY ARE WE STILL VIEWED AS CRIMINALS???

we ask ourselves the same questions everyday

WHY DO WHITE PEOPLE SEEM TO TAKE REVENGE ON US FOR SIMPLY BEING BLACK, WE NEVER PARTICIPATED, SUPPORTED OR IN ANYWAY CONTRIBUTED TO CRIME.

I too think it's BS

but the effect racism has on blacks is far worse than the effect it has on whites

 

[Faskist]

NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FEEL

when we are discriminated against for something other people of the same color have done, just as you white people are discriminated against for something your ancestors have done

deal with it

why are you whining ?

you do not lose jobs because of your skin color..

you are not constantly surveyed when browsing the grocery stores

you are not victims of a racist judge decision

now i'm getting angry

WHAT DO BLACK PEOPLE HAVE TO DO WITH THE WAY YOU ARE VIEWED IN THE MEDIA?

do you REALLY think black people give a damn about how whites are being discriminated against?

I mean be honest

after alllll the injustices white people have done to us

do you honestly think, whether it was your ancestors committing these injustices or not


we would give a damn?

and you guys act like racism still doesn't exist today

you act like people aren't hanging nooses on black peoples doorknobs

you act like there isn't internal segregation in schools down south

WE ARE STILL DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BECAUSE OF THINGS PEOPLE OF OUR SAME RACE DID

JUST AS YOU ARE "DISCRIMINATED" AGAINST BECAUSE OF WHAT PEOPLE OF YOUR RACE DID

DEAL WITH IT, WE DON'T CARE



smh

you're always complaining and don't even understand how good you have it

- you do not lose jobs because of your skin color..
Equally qualified candidates will always be hired if they are a minority, due to (anti-)racism laws.
- you are not constantly surveyed when browsing the grocery stores
You are legally protected against racism.
- you are not victims of a racist judge decision
Well, uhh, actually, that was the whole point of the thread.

- WHAT DO BLACK PEOPLE HAVE TO DO WITH THE WAY YOU ARE VIEWED IN THE MEDIA?
Quite a bit, actually. It's certainly not white people promoting their image as evil, hate-mongering tools. Well, not most white people, just the ones who feel guilty about their own censored feelings.
- you act like there isn't internal segregation in schools down south
So, when white people act to correct an injustice, all white people are wrong because some of them oppose it? Wow. I don't know how things "go down" in the black community, but us honkies have opinions and views, and sometimes, they are different.

 

[shakaka]

NOW YOU KNOW HOW WE FEEL

when we are discriminated against for something other people of the same color have done, just as you white people are discriminated against for something your ancestors have done

deal with it

why are you whining ?

you do not lose jobs because of your skin color..

you are not constantly surveyed when browsing the grocery stores

you are not victims of a racist judge decision

now i'm getting angry

WHAT DO BLACK PEOPLE HAVE TO DO WITH THE WAY YOU ARE VIEWED IN THE MEDIA?

do you REALLY think black people give a damn about how whites are being discriminated against?

I mean be honest

after alllll the injustices white people have done to us

do you honestly think, whether it was your ancestors committing these injustices or not


we would give a damn?

and you guys act like racism still doesn't exist today

you act like people aren't hanging nooses on black peoples doorknobs

you act like there isn't internal segregation in schools down south

WE ARE STILL DISCRIMINATED AGAINST BECAUSE OF THINGS PEOPLE OF OUR SAME RACE DID

JUST AS YOU ARE "DISCRIMINATED" AGAINST BECAUSE OF WHAT PEOPLE OF YOUR RACE DID

DEAL WITH IT, WE DON'T CARE



smh

you're always complaining and don't even understand how good you have it

Don't fucking say we. You were never discriminated against.

 

[MosDef]

Equally qualified candidates will always be hired if they are a minority, due to (anti-)racism laws.

WRONG

there have been experiments conducted between a black woman and a white woman with the exact same resumes

and the white woman, of course, was accepted more


You are legally protected against racism.


how?

if someone calls me a nigger on the internet or on the street, how am I protected?

if someone doesn't hire me because of my skin color (whether stated or not), how am I protected?

Quite a bit, actually. It's certainly not white people promoting their image as evil, hate-mongering tools. Well, not most white people, just the ones who feel guilty about their own censored feelings.

I don't care about your image really

and white people are not viewed as evil hate mongering tools, just the racist ones

white people mad because they know there are people out there that hate them

idc

xD

So, when white people act to correct an injustice, all white people are wrong because some of them oppose it? Wow. I don't know how things "go down" in the black community, but us honkies have opinions and views, and sometimes, they are different.

how does this change the fact that there is internal segregation in communities across America?

and Shakaka don't tell me a GOD DAMN thing about me being discriminated against.

you have no FUCKING IDEA about what I go through on a daily basis, saying that was just plain foolish and ignorant

get a fucking clue, idiot

 

[Faskist]

and Shakaka don't tell me a GOD DAMN thing about me being discriminated against.

you have no FUCKING IDEA about what I go through on a daily basis, saying that was just plain foolish and ignorant

get a fucking clue, idiot

Because I'm sure you know all our life stories, and black people are the only people to ever be discriminated against. Nice incredibly blatant bias against whites.

 

[MosDef]

wtf are you talking about?

you're just babbling now

i've already said that no matter what race, discrimination exists

and nothing in my post was bias, you're just making up stuff up to be able to rebut

write something thats legitimate and maybe I will pay this thread a visit again

 

[shakaka]

and Shakaka don't tell me a GOD DAMN thing about me being discriminated against.

you have no FUCKING IDEA about what I go through on a daily basis, saying that was just plain foolish and ignorant

get a fucking clue, idiot

Because I'm sure you know all our life stories, and black people are the only people to ever be discriminated against. Nice incredibly blatant bias against whites.

Darby you don't get it. He thinks whites have life handed to them on a silver platter, when really its no different if not harder for us.

When a white goes into a store to apply or a job and the store owner is white or black he can get turned down no problem, but if a black person goes to apply for a job with a white boss and gets turned down the boss is viewed as racist.

Now, Mos, I am pretty sure I do have a better life than you seeing as I have it pretty damn good. But I don't represent all whites, and you don't represent all blacks.

 

[MosDef]

of course I don't represent all blacks

but statistically blacks have a harder time getting jobs (and loans) regardless of race

there was an article I read some time ago about how in Chicago among blacks and whites of THE SAME INCOME LEVEL

the rate of whites getting approved for loans was considerably higher than blacks

and even though I am not white, I don't see how you can be discriminated against in the workplace, if I am wrong please enlighten me

and when a white employer doesn't employ a black, they aren't viewed as racist IF they have legitimate reasoning

now when a white person of the same background gets employed over a black, THEN it may be considered racist

 

[shakaka]

But you still don't get the point that I am trying to get across, you are getting me to argue something I don't believe.

Black, and whites are racist. Not all of them are but there are a select few who are. Now.. There is no excuse for racism on either side of the spectrum, so why is it socially acceptable for blacks to be racist and now whites?

 

[Faskist]

of course I don't represent all blacks

but statistically blacks have a harder time getting jobs (and loans) regardless of race

there was an article I read some time ago about how in Chicago among blacks and whites of THE SAME INCOME LEVEL

the rate of whites getting approved for loans was considerably higher than blacks

and even though I am not white, I don't see how you can be discriminated against in the workplace, if I am wrong please enlighten me

and when a white employer doesn't employ a black, they aren't viewed as racist IF they have legitimate reasoning

now when a white person of the same background gets employed over a black, THEN it may be considered racist

Why would it not be considered racist when a black is hired over a white? Oh, I forgot, us whites get loans and jobs just handed to us, don't have to work, nosiree, we're white after all.

This is pathetic. You're a horribly obvious racist, playing on the suffering he didn't experience. You're like Jewish people who get outraged about the Holocaust on the internet, you're really only doing it to get the racial bonus to your e-peen.

 

[shakaka]

Why would it not be considered racist when a black is hired over a white? Oh, I forgot, us whites get loans and jobs just handed to us, don't have to work, nosiree, we're white after all.

This is pathetic. You're a horribly obvious racist, playing on the suffering he didn't experience. You're like Jewish people who get outraged about the Holocaust on the internet, you're really only doing it to get the racial bonus to your e-peen.

Well said.. I love you darby

In a totally not gay way >.>

 

[MosDef]

Why would it not be considered racist when a black is hired over a white? Oh, I forgot, us whites get loans and jobs just handed to us, don't have to work, nosiree, we're white after all.

WHAT OTHER REASON IS THERE THAT BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE WITH THE SAME RESUMES

ONE BLACK AND ONE WHITE

THAT THE WHITE WOULD GET EMPLOYED AND NOT THE BLACK?

please tell me

and you're completely taking my words out of context

you're now resorting to twisting my words and combining it with random babble

and Shakaka if you are obviously enraged at what you think is racism by blacks, are you not a person who finds it socially unacceptable?

I think you just want everyone to have the same beliefs as you

sorry but the world just does not work that way..

and since you guys seems to think that I haven't experienced any racial discrimination, let me relay a short story to you:

me and a couple of my associates (all black and dressed decently) decided to go to the department store, Macys in NYC to do some clothes shopping

as we entered the building we were approached by Macys security personnel telling us that we could not shop there without a parent, due to our age (16-17 at the time)

as he was explaining this to us, a bunch of teenage whites around our age (difference of age wasn't even noticeable) proceeded to enter the store without being stopped

long story short, there was a middle aged black man that was viewing this injustice and he told the security guard that we were with him and we were THEN allowed to shop

now if that isn't racial discrimination, I don't know what is

 

[shakaka]

and Shakaka if you are obviously enraged at what you think is racism by blacks, are you not a person who finds it socially unacceptable?

I find it unacceptable on BOTH ENDS OF THE FUCKING COLOR SPECTRUM.

BLACK = WHITE

Not exceptions EITHER WAY.

 

[MosDef]

wow..

how many times are you going to say that?

i've understood that since the first post, nothing changes

but you just asked me why it was socially acceptable for blacks to be racist..

and I replied by saying that you thought it was UNACCEPTABLE, so it's really an opinion

and why do you not understand that not everyone thinks the same way?

 

[MosDef]

Yes it's very messed up but not everyone in the world loves flowers and skips in mellows

quoted from another thread

sums up everything in this thread

yea its messed up and yea its wrong but everything thing ain't gold, kid

now don't get me wrong I'm always down for a revolution but until then

this is the world we live in, learn to adapt

 

[jebckr]

Hey it's MosDef, my favorite person.

WHAT OTHER REASON IS THERE THAT BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE WITH THE SAME RESUMES

ONE BLACK AND ONE WHITE

THAT THE WHITE WOULD GET EMPLOYED AND NOT THE BLACK?

please tell me

Statistically speaking, the white is going to do a better job than the black more often than not. But yea, if they have the same resume same IQ and are essentially the exact same the white will always have the advantage. The black man may very well be a completly level headed, well spoken, nice guy, but blacks as a race have been given a bad reputation. And rightly so, just look at poverty rates, average intelligence levels, crime rates, etc.

story to you:

me and a couple of my associates (all black and dressed decently) decided to go to the department store, Macys in NYC to do some clothes shopping

as we entered the building we were approached by Macys security personnel telling us that we could not shop there without a parent, due to our age (16-17 at the time)

as he was explaining this to us, a bunch of teenage whites around our age (difference of age wasn't even noticeable) proceeded to enter the store without being stopped

long story short, there was a middle aged black man that was viewing this injustice and he told the security guard that we were with him and we were THEN allowed to shop

now if that isn't racial discrimination, I don't know what is

Same thing applies. You and your friends most likely had no intention to shoplify, but blacks statistically commit more crimes. I'm not neccesarily justifying the stores actions, but I can see where they are coming from.

Story time for me: I use what you just said in your story to my advantage. I go out to a store on the black side of town. I know from a guy who works there that they average 15-20 thefts a day. Of these he says nearly all the thiefs are blacks, as it is a prodominatly black area. I go into the store and take whatever I want (RAM cards) without any survalence as survalence has other people to worry about.

Spelling is bad sorry.