"But you call me a racist"

[K-3-V-1-N]

I'm trying to the best of my ability, to think about this very objectionably.
Heres a list, so maybe you can see where I am coming from.

FACTS
- Whites enslaved Africans.
- Police brutality against minorities DOES happen. Although this a semi-rare occurrence.
- There is some counter racism. Minorities DO judge Caucasians because of their history. If they show it at all, is a rare occurrence.

There is so many points you could take here. I could take the white person side which my argument would include -

- There is racism towards us. We are not the only racists.
- Slavery was not in our control. We have no say in what our ancestors did.
- We cannot have pride of our heritage. People mistake it for racism.

I could go on and on and on. Just some major issues.

Now the black side of it -

- Our ancestors were robbed of there freedom and their heritage.
- Racism against African Americans is a major problem in America.

Basic stuff here. Now, my personal thoughts and things I think you should think about.

Human Nature. Do I think racism can be solved? No. We're always going to see the difference between races, and act upon it.

Here's what you can do to help this situation.

- Think logically. Don't let your human instincts and initial reactions control what kind of a person you are.

- Use your heart. I know it's extremely cliche, but put yourself into the other persons shoes. What would you think if your race was being put into constant scrutiny, after they were basically kidnapped? What would you think if you were judged and limited due to something that was out of your control, and/or something you oppose?

There is no answers.

If you are a racist, you need to back it up. Know why you think you're better. If it doesn't apply to everyone then your logic isn't very clear. Because after all, if you hate black people because they steal things, aren't you forgetting that your race has thieves?

Anyways... My thoughts.

 

[Faskist]

I'm trying to the best of my ability, to think about this very objectionably.
Heres a list, so maybe you can see where I am coming from.

FACTS
- Whites enslaved Africans.
- Police brutality against minorities DOES happen. Although this a semi-rare occurrence.
- There is some counter racism. Minorities DO judge Caucasians because of their history. If they show it at all, is a rare occurrence.

There is so many points you could take here. I could take the white person side which my argument would include -

- There is racism towards us. We are not the only racists.
- Slavery was not in our control. We have no say in what our ancestors did.
- We cannot have pride of our heritage. People mistake it for racism.

I could go on and on and on. Just some major issues.

Now the black side of it -

- Our ancestors were robbed of there freedom and their heritage.
- Racism against African Americans is a major problem in America.

Basic stuff here. Now, my personal thoughts and things I think you should think about.

Human Nature. Do I think racism can be solved? No. We're always going to see the difference between races, and act upon it.

Here's what you can do to help this situation.

- Think logically. Don't let your human instincts and initial reactions control what kind of a person you are.

- Use your heart. I know it's extremely cliche, but put yourself into the other persons shoes. What would you think if your race was being put into constant scrutiny, after they were basically kidnapped? What would you think if you were judged and limited due to something that was out of your control, and/or something you oppose?

There is no answers.

If you are a racist, you need to back it up. Know why you think you're better. If it doesn't apply to everyone then your logic isn't very clear. Because after all, if you hate black people because they steal things, aren't you forgetting that your race has thieves?

Anyways... My thoughts.

- Whites enslaved Africans.

I take issue with this point so hard. Every race, ever, has been enslaved at one point.

- Racism against African Americans is a major problem in America.

Wow, those racists must be keeping this pretty stealthy for it to both hardly be an issue at all and be a major problem.

- Use your heart. I know it's extremely cliche, but put yourself into the other persons shoes. What would you think if your race was being put into constant scrutiny, after they were basically kidnapped? What would you think if you were judged and limited due to something that was out of your control, and/or something you oppose?

I would think like every other logical person - it happened a long time ago, no-one alive today has ever participated in it, and if you want to pursue the ridiculous notion that guilt is hereditary, please do so outside of the confines of law, lest we get more anti-white laws with regards to employment etc.

WHAT OTHER REASON IS THERE THAT BETWEEN TWO PEOPLE WITH THE SAME RESUMES

ONE BLACK AND ONE WHITE

THAT THE WHITE WOULD GET EMPLOYED AND NOT THE BLACK?

please tell me

and you're completely taking my words out of context

you're now resorting to twisting my words and combining it with random babble

and Shakaka if you are obviously enraged at what you think is racism by blacks, are you not a person who finds it socially unacceptable?

I think you just want everyone to have the same beliefs as you

sorry but the world just does not work that way..

and since you guys seems to think that I haven't experienced any racial discrimination, let me relay a short story to you:

me and a couple of my associates (all black and dressed decently) decided to go to the department store, Macys in NYC to do some clothes shopping

as we entered the building we were approached by Macys security personnel telling us that we could not shop there without a parent, due to our age (16-17 at the time)

as he was explaining this to us, a bunch of teenage whites around our age (difference of age wasn't even noticeable) proceeded to enter the store without being stopped

long story short, there was a middle aged black man that was viewing this injustice and he told the security guard that we were with him and we were THEN allowed to shop

now if that isn't racial discrimination, I don't know what is

I'm sorry, we aren't in the 50s anymore. There are laws in place saying that if two people of equal value apply for a job, the minority must be hired, if there aren't "enough" minorities working in that workplace. The logic behind this is that only black people ever need money, because all whites have trust funds (We just pretend to really fucking need money for the rent, or for the food, it's all an elaborate scam to trick black people).

And, oh of course, a gang of white kids who looked slightly older than you weren't stopped by a security guard! God, now I feel terrible for wanting to not be a second-class citizen! Honest to God, if that is the most, ahem, I use the term loosely, "racism" you've experienced, you can't be older than 13.

"but you just asked me why it was socially acceptable for blacks to be racist..

and I replied by saying that you thought it was UNACCEPTABLE, so it's really an opinion

and why do you not understand that not everyone thinks the same way?"
So, just to clarify, you are for anti-white racism? Because you don't think the same as people who are against racism? Oh, I see. Very nice of you to make that clear.

 

[pure pka]

i kinda agree i am a halfcast (black mother + white dad )
but i my self am white in school my m8es know im halfcast we have jokes n shit so i just call them whiteys n stuff for a laugh and they dont seem to mind not many black people go around calling white people whitey
....well not here in the united kingdom

 

[XSafire]

i somewhat agree to this.

One black kid in my history class was picking his hair. He asked my If I picked my hair. My response was "No I'm White". his response was "Fucking Racist".

More Personal Examples

White teacher gives a black kid a bad grade. He's a "Fucking Racist"
White kid refers to a black kids relationship with his girlfriend "Whipped". He's a "Fucking Racist"
White kids pants start falling down. Black kid says "Pull em up, we don't try to be like you, please return the favor". White kid tells him to STFU. He's a "Fucking Racist"
"You like Chappelle's Show?" "No, it's not that funny. I don't like Dave Chappelle." "It's because he's black isn't it? Fucking Racist"

All true.

But there is some bullshit to the list. And there is black racists. Especially old black people. I have a couple black friends and their parents/grandparents are like "Who that is? Is that a white child? O Lord!"

 

[pure pka]

i somewhat agree to this.

One black kid in my history class was picking his hair. He asked my If I picked my hair. My response was "No I'm White". his response was "Fucking Racist".

More Personal Examples

White teacher gives a black kid a bad grade. He's a "Fucking Racist"
White kid refers to a black kids relationship with his girlfriend "Whipped". He's a "Fucking Racist"
White kids pants start falling down. Black kid says "Pull em up, we don't try to be like you, please return the favor". White kid tells him to STFU. He's a "Fucking Racist"
"You like Chappelle's Show?" "No, it's not that funny. I don't like Dave Chappelle." "It's because he's black isn't it? Fucking Racist"

All true.

But there is some bullshit to the list. And there is black racists. Especially old black people. I have a couple black friends and their parents/grandparents are like "Who that is? Is that a white child? O Lord!"

well to say WE! slaved an entire race of people and killed millions and then this black kid called you racist ide say its still not even equal im not saying that black people should start beating shit out of white because of what white people did im saying that you should understand how they/ my mothers side of the family feel about what you use to call them

 

[Faskist]

well to say WE! slaved an entire race of people and killed millions and then this black kid called you racist ide say its still not even equal im not saying that black people should start beating shit out of white because of what white people did im saying that you should understand how they/ my mothers side of the family feel about what you use to call them

If your mother's family thinks white people today;

a) had anything to do with slavery, or
b) thinks black people are the only race to ever be enslaved, or
c) thinks white people were the first to enslave black people,
then she is ignorant, and you'd do well to leave her out of the conversation.

 

[pure pka]

If your mother's family thinks white people today;

a) had anything to do with slavery, or
b) thinks black people are the only race to ever be enslaved, or
c) thinks white people were the first to enslave black people,
then she is ignorant, and you'd do well to leave her out of the conversation.

wtf my family doesnt think that because im WHITE read my 1st post! if my family thought whites where assholes then my grandma would think that all her doughters and sons are as well because all my uncles aunties and my mother have married a white person (ive only just noticed my self :S) and all my cousins are white / half cast

im just saying black people have the right to be ....well pissed off if you know what i mean

edit: sorry to offend anybody but probably everybody whos posted on this thread is white (probably not) thats why your agreeing that black people can be racists
black people can be racist but either if you are black or white everysingle person on this forum has thought or said something racist
NOBODY can deny it

 

[Faskist]

im just saying black people have the right to be ....well pissed off if you know what i mean

That is exactly your problem, thank you for not reading my post and so embarrassing yourself.

 

[sacred_user]

Wow seriously like everything that said made me think about it, i never really thought that way but its completely true.

 

[MosDef]

- Whites enslaved Africans.

I take issue with this point so hard. Every race, ever, has been enslaved at one point.

- Racism against African Americans is a major problem in America.

Wow, those racists must be keeping this pretty stealthy for it to both hardly be an issue at all and be a major problem.

- Use your heart. I know it's extremely cliche, but put yourself into the other persons shoes. What would you think if your race was being put into constant scrutiny, after they were basically kidnapped? What would you think if you were judged and limited due to something that was out of your control, and/or something you oppose?

I would think like every other logical person - it happened a long time ago, no-one alive today has ever participated in it, and if you want to pursue the ridiculous notion that guilt is hereditary, please do so outside of the confines of law, lest we get more anti-white laws with regards to employment etc.

I'm sorry, we aren't in the 50s anymore. There are laws in place saying that if two people of equal value apply for a job, the minority must be hired, if there aren't "enough" minorities working in that workplace. The logic behind this is that only black people ever need money, because all whites have trust funds (We just pretend to really fucking need money for the rent, or for the food, it's all an elaborate scam to trick black people).

And, oh of course, a gang of white kids who looked slightly older than you weren't stopped by a security guard! God, now I feel terrible for wanting to not be a second-class citizen! Honest to God, if that is the most, ahem, I use the term loosely, "racism" you've experienced, you can't be older than 13.

"but you just asked me why it was socially acceptable for blacks to be racist..

and I replied by saying that you thought it was UNACCEPTABLE, so it's really an opinion

and why do you not understand that not everyone thinks the same way?"
So, just to clarify, you are for anti-white racism? Because you don't think the same as people who are against racism? Oh, I see. Very nice of you to make that clear.

babble some more please

xD

and racism is racism

there is no, "this is more racist than that!"

and for the record I experience racial discrimination everyday, its just become a part of my daily life

most of it would be unnoticeable to a white person like yourself, but it happens

"Story time for me: I use what you just said in your story to my advantage. I go out to a store on the black side of town. I know from a guy who works there that they average 15-20 thefts a day. Of these he says nearly all the thiefs are blacks, as it is a prodominatly black area. I go into the store and take whatever I want (RAM cards) without any survalence as survalence has other people to worry about."

there you go

white or black, everyone should be treated the same

regardless of who is committing majority of crimes in an area

if there is a security issue, step up security on ALL races not just one race

*waits for the oncoming babble*

you seriously aren't making sense any more

just writing jibberish to be able to respond

pathetic

until you start making sense again

this has been an... interesting discussion

 

[Stuart]

when you're at the grocery store do you check out with the black lady or the white lady?

Thats down to a persons choice not because they are racist.

If people of different colors wish to host events for their color or such it is their choice. Saying people can't do such things is against their rights I believe.

In most cases those I would say racism falls mainly on the white side because as in all cases the majority will want to have power over the minorities which makes things unequal and because equality isn't really something most people can handle there will be racism for a long time.

Things are changing those and hopefully for the better.

 

[Faskist]

babble some more please

xD

and racism is racism

there is no, "this is more racist than that!"

and for the record I experience racial discrimination everyday, its just become a part of my daily life

most of it would be unnoticeable to a white person like yourself, but it happens

"Story time for me: I use what you just said in your story to my advantage. I go out to a store on the black side of town. I know from a guy who works there that they average 15-20 thefts a day. Of these he says nearly all the thiefs are blacks, as it is a prodominatly black area. I go into the store and take whatever I want (RAM cards) without any survalence as survalence has other people to worry about."

there you go

white or black, everyone should be treated the same

regardless of who is committing majority of crimes in an area

if there is a security issue, step up security on ALL races not just one race

*waits for the oncoming babble*

you seriously aren't making sense any more

just writing jibberish to be able to respond

pathetic

until you start making sense again

this has been an... interesting discussion

Ok, so your single, unsourced, hardly coherent story trumps any requirement for evidence on your part? Let's apply that logic to me, too, so as not to be racist! Ahem, "i once saw this black guy and he said blacks did 9/11!"

There, irrefutable.

 

[jebckr]

babble some more please

xD

and racism is racism

Racism can be defined any more than one way. Actually, the was I define racism is defining a RACE by what they do as a RACE.

Start mixing in hatred and unfare judgements towards individuals and it isn't racism to me, BUT hatred and racism do go hand in hand. So in my eyes JUST racism isn't bad at all. It's just looking at facts and drawing conclusions from them. But I do know other people will define it thinking of hatred.

 

[shakaka]

Well shoop da fuckin whoop.

Jeb and Darby have argued all my points and more...

 

[Fallen Soul]

Well Mosdef if you don't get it by now then your just not ready to see. There are racist's in every race. Your whole argument is based on hatred and revenge and a grudge...do you think its fair for white people to do it to you? Hell no, Do I want some one else doing it to me? Hell no. But I'm not going to say its been done to me so I'm going to pass it on cause they deserve it cause there white and another white person did it to me. With that said if you don't see it I don't think you will ever get it.

 

[MosDef]

maybe I should dumb my posts down a bit

cos you oafs certainly don't understand a lick of what I'm saying

all those good schools in the suburbs and you clowns can't even comprehend basic english

 

[Personal Jesus]

maybe I should dumb my posts down a bit

cos you oafs certainly don't understand a lick of what I'm saying

all those good schools in the suburbs and you clowns can't even comprehend basic english

Here's a dollar, go buy yourself a shiftkey, and fucking use it.

 

[/\/\OO please.]

Because, before the civil war you know black people were slaves, the sons of those slaves are being treated just as fairly as white people today, they are just a bunch of whiny bitches.
By the way anyone care to tell me if Jews are a race or a religion?

 

[Brody]

Summary of slavery;
* No-one alive today ever enslaved anyone

Slavery still exists in many 3rd world countries today.

 

[Personal Jesus]

Because, before the civil war you know black people were slaves, the sons of those slaves are being treated just as fairly as white people today, they are just a bunch of whiny bitches.
By the way anyone care to tell me if Jews are a race or a religion?

They're both. Judaism is an ethnoreligious group.