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Ok, I have been interested in this quite a bit and looked around at information on the holocaust. Here is 65 facts you should review before calling me racist or disrespectful. The main point I want to get accross is that the holocaust was highly exagerated and shrowded in lies.

1. What proof exists that the Nazis killed six million Jews?
None. All we have is postwar testimony, mostly of individual “survivors.” This testimony is contradictory, and very few claim to have actually witnessed any “gassing.” There are no contemporaneous documents or hard evidence: no mounds of ashes, no crematories capable of disposing of millions of corpses, no “human soap,” no lamp shades made of human skin, and no credible demographic statistics.

2. What evidence exists that six million Jews were not killed by the Nazis?
Extensive forensic, demographic, analytical and comparative evidence demonstrates the impossibility of such a figure. The widely repeated “six million” figure is an irresponsible exaggeration.

3. Did Simon Wiesenthal state in writing that “there were no extermination camps on German soil”?
Yes. The famous “Nazi hunter” wrote this in Stars and Stripes, Jan. 24, 1993. He also claimed that “gassings” of Jews took place only in Poland.

4. If Dachau was in Germany, and even Wiesenthal says that it was not an extermination camp, why do many American veterans say it was an extermination camp?
After the Allies captured Dachau, many GIs and others were led through the camp and shown a building alleged to have been a “gas chamber.” The mass media widely, but falsely, continues to assert that Dachau was a “gassing” camp.

5. What about Auschwitz? Is there any proof that gas chambers were used to kill people there?
No. Auschwitz, captured by the Soviets, was modified after the war, and a room was reconstructed to look like a large “gas chamber.” After America’s leading expert on gas chamber construction and design, Fred Leuchter, examined this and other alleged Auschwitz gassing facilities, he stated that it was an “absurdity” to claim that they were, or could have been, used for executions.

6. If Auschwitz wasn’t a “death camp,” what was its true purpose?
It was an internment center and part of a large-scale manufacturing complex. Synthetic fuel was produced there, and its inmates were used as a workforce.

7. Who set up the first concentration camps?
During the Boer War (1899-1902), the British set up what they called “concentration camps” in South Africa to hold Afrikaner women and children. Approximately 30,000 died in these hell-holes, which were as terrible as concentration camps for Germans of World War II.

8. How did German concentration camps differ from American “relocation” camps in which Japanese-
Americans were interned during WWII? The only significant difference was that the Germans interned persons on the basis of being real or suspected security threats to the German war effort, whereas the Roosevelt administration interned persons on the basis of race alone.

9. Why did the German government intern Jews in camps?
It considered Jews a direct threat to national security. (Jews were overwhelmingly represented in Communist subversion.) However, all suspected security risks – not just Jews – were in danger of internment.

10. What hostile measure did world Jewry undertake against Germany as early as 1933?
In March 1933, international Jewish organizations declared an international boycott of German goods.

11. Did the Jews of the world “declare war on Germany”?
Yes. Newspapers around the world reported this. A front-page headline in the London Daily Express (March 24, 1933), for example, announced “Judea Declares War on Germany.”

12. Was this before or after the “death camp” stories began?
This was years before the “death camp” stories, which began in 1941-1942.

13. What nation is credited with being the first to practice mass civilian bombing?
Britain— on May 11, 1940.

14. How many “gas chambers” to kill people were there at Auschwitz?
None.

15. How many Jews were living in the areas that came under German control during the war?
Fewer than six million.

16. If the Jews of Europe were not exterminated by the Nazis, what happened to them?
After the war millions of Jews were still alive in Europe. Hundreds of thousands (perhaps as many as one and a half million) had died of all causes during the war. Others had emigrated to Palestine, the United States, and other countries. Still more Jews left Europe after the war.

17. How many Jews fled or were evacuated to deep within the Soviet Union?
More than two million fled or were evacuated by the Soviets in 1941-1942. These Jews thus never came under German control.

18. How many Jews emigrated from Europe prior to the war, thus putting them outside of German reach?
Perhaps a million (not including those absorbed by the USSR).

19. If Auschwitz was not an extermination camp, why did the commandant, Rudolf Hoess, confess that it was?
He was tortured by British military police, as one of his interrogators later admitted.

20. Is there any evidence of American, British and Soviet policy to torture German prisoners in order to exact “confessions” for use at the trials at Nuremberg and elsewhere?
Yes. Torture was extensively used to produce fraudulent “evidence” for the infamous Nuremberg trials, and in other postwar “war crimes” trials.

21. How does the Holocaust story benefit Jews today?
It helps protect Jews as a group from criticism. As a kind of secular religion, it provides an emotional bond between Jews and their leaders. It is a powerful tool in Jewish money-raising campaigns, and is used to justify US aid to Israel.

22. How does it benefit the State of Israel?
It justifies the billions of dollars in “reparations” Germany has paid to Israel and many individual “survivors.” It is used by the Zionist/Israeli lobby to dictate a pro-Israel American foreign policy in the Middle East, and to force American taxpayer aid to Israel, totaling billions of dollars per year.

23. How is it used by many Christian clergymen?
The Holocaust story is cited to justify the Old Testament notion of Jews as a holy and eternally persecuted “Chosen People.”

24. How did it benefit the Communists?
It diverted attention from Soviet war mongering and atrocities before, during and after the Second World War.

25. How does it benefit Britain?
In much the same way it benefited the Soviet Union.

26. Is there any evidence that Hitler ordered mass extermination of Jews? No.

27. What kind of gas was used in German wartime concentration camps?
Hydrocyanic gas from “Zyklon B,” a commercial pesticide that was widely used throughout Europe.

28. For what purpose was “Zyklon B” manufactured?
It was a pesticide used to fumigate clothing and quarters to kill typhus-bearing lice and other pests.

29. Was this product suitable for mass extermination?
No. If the Nazis had intended to use poison gas to exterminate people, far more efficient products were available. Zyklon is a slow-acting fumigation agent.

30. How long does it take to ventilate an area after fumigation with Zyklon B?
Normally about 20 hours. The whole procedure is very complicated and dangerous. Gas masks must be used, and only trained technicians are employed.

31. Auschwitz commandant Hoess said that his men would enter the “gas chambers” to remove bodies ten minutes after the victims had died. How do you explain this?
It can’t be explained because had they done so they would have suffered the same fate as the “gassing” victims.

32. Hoess said in his “confession” that his men would smoke cigarettes as they pulled bodies out of gas chambers, ten minutes after gassing. Isn’t Zyklon B explosive?
Yes. The Hoess confession is obviously false.

33. What was the exact procedure the Nazis allegedly used to exterminate Jews?
The stories range from dropping gas canisters into a crowded room from a hole in the ceiling, to piping gas through shower heads, to “steam chambers,” to “electrocution” machinery. Millions are alleged to have been killed in these ways.

34. How could a mass extermination program have been kept secret from those who were scheduled to be killed?
It couldn’t have been kept secret. The fact is that there were no mass gassings. The extermination stories originated as wartime atrocity propaganda.

35. If Jews scheduled for execution knew the fate in store for them, why did they go along with the Germans without resisting?
They didn’t fight back because they did not believe there was any intention to kill them.

36. About how many Jews died in the concentration camps?
Competent estimates range from about 300,000 to 500,000.

37. How did they die?
Mainly from recurring typhus epidemics that ravaged war-torn Europe during the war, as well as from starvation and lack of medical attention during the final months of the conflict, when virtually all road and rail transportation had been bombed out by the Allies.

38. What is typhus?
This disease always appears when many people are jammed together under unsanitary conditions. It is carried by lice that infest hair and clothes. Ironically, if the Germans had used more Zyklon B, more Jews might have survived the camps.

39. What is the difference if six million or 300,000 Jews died during the Second World War?
5,700,000.

40. Some Jewish “death camp” survivors say they saw bodies being dumped into pits and burned. How much fuel would have been required for this?
A great deal more than the Germans had access to, as there was a substantial fuel shortage during the war.

41. Can bodies be burned in pits?
No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames in this manner because of lack of oxygen.

42. Holocaust historians claim that the Nazis were able to cremate bodies in about ten minutes. How long does it take to incinerate one body, according to professional crematory operators?
About an hour and a half, although the larger bones require further processing afterwards.

43. Why did the German concentration camps have crematory ovens?
To dispose efficiently and sanitarily of the corpses of those who had died.

44. Given a 100 percent duty cycle of all the crematories in all the camps in German-controlled territory, what is the maximum number of corpses it would have been possible to incinerate during the entire period such crematories were in operation?
About 430,600.

45. Can a crematory oven be operated 100 percent of the time?
No. Fifty percent of the time is a generous estimate (12 hours per day). Crematory ovens have to be cleaned thoroughly and regularly when in heavy operation.

46. How much ash is left from a cremated corpse?
After the bone is all ground down, about a shoe box full.

47. If six million people had been incinerated by the Nazis, what happened to the ashes?
That remains to be “explained.” Six million bodies would have produced many tons of ashes, yet there is no evidence of any large ash depositories.

48. Do Allied wartime aerial reconnaissance photos of Auschwitz (taken during the period when the “gas chambers” and crematoria were supposedly in full operation) show evidence of extermination?
No. In fact, these photographs do not even reveal a trace of the enormous amount of smoke that supposedly was constantly over the camp, nor do they show evidence of the “open pits” in which bodies were allegedly burned.

49. What was the main provision of the German “Nuremberg Laws” of 1935?
They forbid marriage and sexual relations between Germans and Jews, similar to laws existing in Israel today.

50. Were there any American precedents for the Nuremberg Laws?
Years before Hitler’s Third Reich, most states in the USA had enacted laws prohibiting marriage between persons of different races.

51. What did the International Red Cross have to report with regard to the “Holocaust” question?
An official report on the visit of an IRC delegation to Auschwitz in September 1944 pointed out that internees were permitted to receive packages, and that rumors of gas chambers could not be verified.

52. What was the role of the Vatican during the time six million Jews were allegedly being exterminated?
If there had been an extermination plan, the Vatican would most certainly have been in a position to know about it. But because there was none, the Vatican had no reason to speak out against it, and didn’t.

53. What evidence is there that Hitler knew of an on-going Jewish extermination program?
None.

54. Did the Nazis and the Zionists collaborate?
As early as 1933, Hitler’s government signed an agreement with the Zionists permitting Jews to emigrate from Germany to Palestine, taking large amounts of capital with them.

55. How did Anne Frank die?
After surviving internment in Auschwitz, she succumbed to typhus in the Bergen-Belsen camp, just a few weeks before the end of the war. She was not gassed.

56. Is the Anne Frank Diary genuine?
No. Evidence compiled by Dr. Robert Faurisson of France establishes that the famous diary is a literary hoax.

57. What about the familiar photographs and film footage taken in the liberated German camps showing piles of emaciated corpses? Are these faked?
Photographs can be faked, but it’s far easier merely to add a misleading caption to a photo or commentary to a piece of footage. Piles of emaciated corpses do not mean that these people were “gassed” or deliberately starved to death. Actually, these were tragic victims of raging epidemics or of starvation due to a lack of food in the camps toward the end of the war.

58. Who originated the term “genocide”?
Raphael Lemkin, a Polish Jew, in a book published in 1944.

59. Are films such as “Schindler’s List” or “The Winds of War” documentaries?
No. Such films are fictional dramatizations loosely based on history. Unfortunately, all too many people accept them as accurate historical representations.

60. How many books have been published that refute some aspect of the standard “Holocaust” story?
Dozens. More are in production.

61. What happened when the Institute for Historical Review offered $50,000 to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz?
No proof was submitted as a claim on the reward, but the Institute was sued for $17 million by former Auschwitz inmate Mel Mermelstein, who claimed that the reward offer caused him to lose sleep and his business to suffer, and represented “injurious denial of established fact.”

62. What about the charge that those who question the Holocaust story are merely anti-Semitic or neo- Nazi?
This is a smear designed to draw attention away from facts and honest arguments. Scholars who refute Holocaust story claims are of all persuasions and ethnic-religious backgrounds (including Jewish). There is no correlation between “Holocaust” refutation and anti-Semitism or neo-Nazism. Increasing numbers of Jewish scholars openly admit the lack of evidence for key Holocaust claims.

63. What has happened to “revisionist” historians who have challenged the Holocaust story?
They have been subjected to smear campaigns, loss of academic positions, loss of pensions, destruction of their property and physical violence.

64. Has the Institute for Historical Review suffered any retaliation for its efforts to uphold the right of freedom of speech and academic freedom?
The IHR had been bombed three times, and was completely destroyed on July 4, 1984, in a criminal arson attack. Numerous death threats by telephone have been received. Media coverage of the IHR has been overwhelmingly hostile.

65. Why is there so little publicity for the revisionist view?
Because for political reasons the Establishment does not want any in-depth discussion about the facts surrounding the Holocaust story.


Ok, to be honest being a satanist and involved in many beileifs contrary that of most people, the points are slighly buyast in the way they are written. They still contain all facts. Please discuss and look around/your your personal knowledge in order to help us all :) Thanks.

For much more detailed anaylisis of the points go to http://www.zundelsite.org/english/debate/debatetoc.html
 
Oh Lord! Son, the Holocaust is a scapegoat for a lot of things by a lot of Jews, but those "facts" are bullshit. There are remains of the type you specified, in museums in Poland, the ruins of Auschwitz are still there, and for God's sakes, there are numerous documents from inside the SS.

After it stated that there was no proof, I began to laugh, and didn't read the rest.


Look, here's the cold hard facts:
  1. The Holocaust happened
  2. It was not your fault
  3. You should not feel bad
  4. It was not a white crime
  5. It was not a German crime
  6. It was not a Nazi crime
  7. It was an SS crime
  8. Never apologise for it
  9. Never take responsibility -- it was not your fault!
  10. If a Jew ever claims to be suffering through it's effects, he is a lying cunt. He's out to do nothing more than enrich his own life through exploiting the suffering of his parents/grandparents.
 
Oh Lord! Son, the Holocaust is a scapegoat for a lot of things by a lot of Jews, but those "facts" are bullshit. There are remains of the type you specified, in museums in Poland, the ruins of Auschwitz are still there, and for God's sakes, there are numerous documents from inside the SS.

After it stated that there was no proof, I began to laugh, and didn't read the rest.


Look, here's the cold hard facts:
  1. The Holocaust happened
  2. It was not your fault
  3. You should not feel bad
  4. It was not a white crime
  5. It was not a German crime
  6. It was not a Nazi crime
  7. It was an SS crime
  8. Never apologise for it
  9. Never take responsibility -- it was not your fault!
  10. If a Jew ever claims to be suffering through it's effects, he is a lying cunt. He's out to do nothing more than enrich his own life through exploiting the suffering of his parents/grandparents.

Point 10 is pretty much a main point i coverd, and I suggest you read all of it.
 
I have always claimed that less than 600.000 jews were actully killed, but with no evidence or facts to back me up. At the bottom line who estimated these deaths? The allies did, and why the hell should they not add tons of deaths to that number? Adding more deaths to it would naturally strengthen the worlds empathy for the jews, and as a result of that they might be given a country without recistance.

"What is the difference if six million or 300,000 Jews died during the Second World War?
5,700,000."

LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL.

I dont know if I believe in the antigassing facts, but it kind of softs it all out.
I have always hated Hitler after having had this dream many years ago.
I was a nonjew prisoner waiting in a cold room filled with half naked white skinny people, and every 15 minuts guards would come and pull out a person and that person I never saw again. Left was me and a couple of other kids, we all begged the guard to save us and he did and we ran like hell out of a fortress kind of place, filled with heavy armed nazi soldiers guarding from the top of every part of the fortress. We got out though.

At least I did....

As crazy as the dream may sound, I woke up that day not knowing what it was actully about. As I grew I realised that it was about WW2, and that made me hate and disgust Hitler. I feel like having gone through the worst of what the jews had to go through, and that has given me alot of empathy for those who died, (if it actully took place).

Nicely found though, and I´ll make shure my teacher, mom, dad and friends will hear this.
 
I have always claimed that less than 600.000 jews were actully killed, but with no evidence or facts to back me up. This is going to be used next time.

"What is the difference if six million or 300,000 Jews died during the Second World War?
5,700,000."

LOL. LOL. LOL. LOL.

I dont know if I believe in the antigassing facts, but it kind of softs it all out.
I have always hated Hitler after having had this dream many years ago.
I was a nonjew prisoner waiting in a cold room filled with half naked white skinny people, and every 15 minuts guards would come and pull out a person and that person I never saw again. Left was me and a couple of other kids, we all begged the guard to save us and he did and we ran like hell out of a fortress kind of place, filled with heavy armed nazi soldiers guarding from the top of every part of the fortress. We got out though.

At least I did....

As crazy as the dream may sound, I woke up that day not knowing what it was actully about. As I grew I realised that it was about WW2, and that made me hate and disgust Hitler. I feel like having gone through the worst of what the jews had to go through, and that has given me alot of empathy for those who died, (if it actully took place).

Nicely found though, and I´ll make shure my teacher, mom, dad and friends will hear this.

Heinrich Heimler and Adolf Hitlet were trying to save us all from the jews. About your dream, thats what the media is force-feeding kids these days to get us scared and to feel sorry for them.
 
Read the very first part of my comment again, I just edited it.

No undtil that point I had never ever heard of world war 2, and at that time I did not live in the west, so I could not have bin fet with the bullshit at such an early age. The dream actully didnt take place 'many' years ago, it took place when I was 9 lol.
 
Oh well then that was verry interesting. Thinking logically there would be no way for you to have those thoughts spinning round your head, unless there was some reference to it. Anyway i dont know about the dream but I hope you got alot of good arguments for people that think its 6m jews and another 5m gypsies and homosexuals (Rofl thats what my school says)
 
You see thats the thing in the west. They only tell their side of the story regarding every single subject. The call people terrorist without knowing their ideologi, they state palestinians suicide bombers to be terrorists without, saying why they do what they do, And I could continue for ever with examples... In the west only 1 side of the west exist u see.
 
To be fair, Adolf Hitler was never proved to be anything more than a megalomaniac. Himmler, on the other hand, was involved in the Final Solution beyond all doubt.
 
Hey, im pretty open minded, i understand that the points are buyast and not sensitive to the hardship of the jewish people at the time. I still think, looking at the points and the evidence on the link that I have a pretty strong argument.

40. Some Jewish “death camp” survivors say they saw bodies being dumped into pits and burned. How much fuel would have been required for this?
A great deal more than the Germans had access to, as there was a substantial fuel shortage during the war.

41. Can bodies be burned in pits?
No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames in this manner because of lack of oxygen.

Theres two of the points, you can find your own evidence easily that supports these.


To be fair, Adolf Hitler was never proved to be anything more than a megalomaniac. Himmler, on the other hand, was involved in the Final Solution beyond all doubt.


To be honest Himmler is still supported to this day for his work, He just rounded up the jews and made them work sepperatly to stop them causing any trouble. The jews were seen to be a threat to germany as Judea had officially declared war on germany previously. Technically they were just defending their country.
 
Hey, im pretty open minded, i understand that the points are buyast and not sensitive to the hardship of the jewish people at the time. I still think, looking at the points and the evidence on the link that I have a pretty strong argument.

40. Some Jewish “death camp” survivors say they saw bodies being dumped into pits and burned. How much fuel would have been required for this?
A great deal more than the Germans had access to, as there was a substantial fuel shortage during the war.

41. Can bodies be burned in pits?
No. It is impossible for human bodies to be totally consumed by flames in this manner because of lack of oxygen.

Theres two of the points, you can find your own evidence easily that supports these.
Which is why the Russians found them when they began pushing for Berlin. Learn your history.

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29. Was this product suitable for mass extermination?
No. If the Nazis had intended to use poison gas to exterminate people, far more efficient products were available. Zyklon is a slow-acting fumigation agent.

You're kidding right? Zyklon B is extremely fast-acting -- the Nazi documents from the time say it took from 10 to 30 minutes to act, and up to 4 hours for the gas to completely evacuate the area.
 
I have considerd that, and to be honest thats all that they were, somone admitting to it "under pressure"

The story of the Six Million was given judicial authority at the Nuremberg Trials of German leaders between 1945 and 1949, proceedings which proved to be the most disgraceful legal farce in history. For a far more detailed study of the iniquities of these trials, which as Field Marshal Montgomery said, made it a crime to lose a war, the reader is referred to the works cited below, and particulary to the outstanding book Advance to Barbarism (Nelson, 1953), by the distinguished English jurist, F. J. P. Veale. From the very outset, the Nuremberg Trials proceeded on the basis of gross statistical errors. In his speech of indictment on November 20th, 1945, Mr. Sidney Alderman declared that there had been 9,600,000 Jews living in German occupied Europe. Our earlier study has shown this figure to be wildly inaccurate. It is arrived at (a) by completely ignoring all Jewish emigration between 1933 and 1945, and (b) by adding all the Jews of Russia, including the two million or more who were never in German-occupied territory. The same inflated figure, slightly enlarged to 9,800,000, was produced again at the Eichmann Trial in Israel by Prof. Shalom Baron. The alleged Six Million victims first appeared as the foundation for the prosecution at Nuremberg, and after some dalliance with ten million or more by the Press at the time, it eventually gained international popularity and acceptance. It is very significant, however, that, although this outlandish figure was able to win credence in the reckless atmosphere of recrimination in 1945, it had become no longer tenable by 1961, at the Eichmann Trial. The Jerusalem court studiously avoided mentioning the figure of Six Million, and the charge drawn up by Mr. Gideon Haussner simply said "some" millions.

"Torture was used in the trials"

Altogether more disturbing, however, were the methods employed to extract statements and "confessions" at Nuremberg, particularly those from S.S. officers which were used to support the extermination charge. The American Senator, Joseph McCarthy, in a statement given to the American Press on May 20th, 1949, drew attention to the following cases of torture to secure such confessions. In the prison of the Swabisch Hall, he stated, officers of the S.S. Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler were flogged until they were soaked in blood, after which their sexual organs were trampled on as they lay prostrate on the ground. As in the notorious Malmedy Trials of private soldiers, the prisoners were hoisted in the air and beaten until they signed the confessions demanded of them. On the basis of such "confessions" extorted from S.S. Generals Sepp Dietrich and Joachim Paiper, the Leibstandarte was convicted as a "guilty organisation". S.S. General Oswald Pohl, the economic administrator of the concentration camp system, had his face smeared with faeces and was subsequently beaten until he supplied his confession. In dealing with these cases, Senator McCarthy told the Press: "I have heard evidence and read documentary proofs to the effect that the accused persons were beaten up, maltreated and physically tortured by methods which could only be conceived in sick brains. They were subjected to mock trials and pretended executions, they were told their families would be deprived of their ration cards. All these things were carried out with the approval of the Public Prosecutor in order to secure the psychological atmosphere necessary for the extortion of the required confessions. If the United States lets such acts committed by a few people go unpunished, then the whole world can rightly criticise us severely and forever doubt the correctness of our motives and our moral integrity." The methods of intimidation described were repeated during trials at Frankfurt-am-Mein and at Dachau, and large numbers of Germans were convicted for atrocities on the basis of their admissions. The American Judge Edward L. van Roden, one of the three members of the Simpson Army Commission which was subsequently appointed to investigate the methods of justice at the Dachau trials, revealed the methods by which these admissions were secured in the Washington Daily News, January 9th, 1949. His account also appeared in the British newspaper, the Sunday Pictorial, January 23rd, 1949. The methods he described were: "Posturing as priests to hear confessions and give absolution; torture with burning matches driven under the prisoners finger-nails; knocking out of teeth and breaking jaws; solitary confinement and near starvation rations." Van Roden explained: "The statements which were admitted as evidence were obtained from men who had first been kept in solitary confinement for three, four and five months ... The investigators would put a black hood over the accused's head and then punch him in the face with brass knuckles, kick him and beat him with rubber hoses ... All but two of the Germans, in the 139 cases we investigated, had been kicked in the testicles beyond repair. This was standard operating procedure with our American investigators." The "American" investigators responsible (and who later functioned as the prosecution in the trials) were: Lt.-Col. Burton F. Ellis (chief of the War Crimes Committee) and his assistants, Capt. Raphael Shumacker, Lt. Robert E. Byrne, Lt. William R. Perl, Mr. Morris Ellowitz, Mr. Harry Thon, and Mr. Kirschbaum. The legal adviser of the court was Col. A. H. Rosenfeld. The reader will immediately appreciate from their names that the majority of these people were "biased on racial grounds" in the words of Justice Wenersturm -- that is, were Jewish, and therefore should never have been involved in any such investigation. Despite the fact that "confessions" pertaining to the extemination of the Jews were extracted under these conditions, Nuremberg statements are still regarded as conclusive evidence for the Six Million by writers like Reitlinger and others, and the illusion is maintained that the Trials were both impartial and impeccably fair. When General Taylor, the Chief Public Prosecutor, was asked where he had obtained the figure of the Six Million, he replied that it was based on the confession of S.S. General Otto Ohlendorf. He, too, was tortured and his case is examined below. But as far as such "confessions" in general are concerned, we can do no better than quote the British Sunday Pictorial when reviewing the report of Judge van Roden: "Strong men were reduced to broken wrecks ready to mumble any admission demanded by their prosecutors."

Darby, Zyklon B is not a fast acting gas. You are wrong. The amount of Zyklon B used at the so-called “extermination” camps was no more or less than the other concentration camps. Cremation in 20 minutes is impossible. Germany wouldn’t be able to provide the coke for the crematoria for the number claimed.
 
My grandfather was a holocaust survivor so I'll stay out of this discussion because my views are biased.

The holocaust was not that long ago, facts cannot be skewed that much in such a short time. Still, I agree with most of Darbysniper's views.
 
Ok well to be honest, it wasnt a long time ago from now. It is very shocking that "6m jews could be exterminated along with thousands more homosexuals and gypsies" without somebody doing something about it. It is shocking that even though it wasnt a long time ago at all, no 100% solid evidence remains that isnt shrowded in lies or irrefutable proof. Well thats what I think anyway.
 
Bullshit, pure bullshit.

No way the systematic mass murder of 6 million jews was "faked". Like Fin said, theres a conspiracy behind EVERY major event.
 
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