Soul Rich / KoS - Stolen software / Defamation

This was something I had no intention of reporting but I have had multiple false accusations from Soul Rich and the remaining KoS staff Here, Here and the document in the other report. I apologise in advance for taking up Sythe staff time, but the libel is getting out of hand. Then to find out about the illegal cracking and distribution of my software pushed it over the edge.

For transparency and context, I want to state unequivocally that KoS had no ownership rights to the software listed below.

• Host Bot
  
  
• Miscellaneous Bot
  
  
• Hit Bot(s)
  
  
• Caller bot
  
  
• Reverse Stakes Bot
  
  
• Host calculator
  
  
• Host plugin
  
  
• Custom OSBot launcher
  
  
• KingofStakes.live website
  
  
• Kingofstakes.live domain

All rights to the software remain with the original developers. KoS did not fund the development or cover server costs for any of the bots involved. > > Some hosts paid for premium features on subscription, and all hosts contributed a processing (developer) fee on every stake that passed through the ICS system. When ICS launched, the host commission was adjusted from 5% to 2.5%, broken down as follows: > - 1.25% to the caller > - 0.25% developer fee > - 0.25% owner fee > - 0.75% to the house (EV) > > The developer fee covered system usage and processing—not ownership. At no point was there any agreement or contract indicating KoS held rights to the software. In fact, no such contract ever existed, outside the rejected proposal we offered them.

KoS never owned any of the IP above, never contributed to development nor had any contracts in place for ownership.After the “Shin incident” KoS owners did not like that they did not own or run any of our software to which we proposed a contract in which they would directly pay for development of a full rework and would have access to, and ownership of, the code. They refused. Specifically highlighting this https://i.gyazo.com/03f913dbd8acc84f7ecc5f883ffc474c.png (this was a few years ago but here is a redacted view so as to not leak his irl name, of the comments on the document these are made by Flashed https://i.gyazo.com/c07a1012e8a76b4765216ba8fe65aa18.png)

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As to the specifics of this report:

KoS Stole, cracked (blackhat), and redistributed software illegally. My OSBot script was stolen, decompiled, had my authentication locks removed, my name replaced to “ByteKing” and redistributed by KoS for hosts to use. I personally don’t mind leaking the source, he almost entirely replaced me from the bot (although a side by side comparison shows it is my bot) except that he left my debug exemption in (in the same function in which he states that if the script is out of date to contact ByteKing) where using a specific OSBot account with no parameters default to me in debug mode.

I have original source code and the decompiled code that I am happy to share with Sythe team.

 

@GPSwap what is your proof of them cracking/using the decompiled code?
@Soul Rich do you have anything to say at this time?

You can send me the code privately over Sythe PM.

 

@Techie
I have sent you all related code in PM.

Twitch <- this is a clip from 12/05 showing after I added the version marker onto the info bar
kosluigi - 346 <- this is a clip from this morning of their "new plugin"
Twitch <- this is the clip from koalys report from over a year ago

Heres a brief conversation a KoS host who temporarily tried to step into the role of developer asking about how to skip straight to osbot, which was needed to run the script since it required cli augs to be able to run
- https://i.gyazo.com/d883e97bc8a56b2c0c21415c361b3ea4.png

I understand feature parity is not evidence they are using my code, but with the code I have dm'd you along with the EXACT parity down to
- Use of osbot and identical script name
https://i.gyazo.com/e1ce7e1cfb408ab661e550ac822d55df.png
- poorly aligned text to character boxes
https://i.gyazo.com/be7a8aebc77ee7e537e426dd9f0a8ecb.png - https://i.gyazo.com/ffc2365403ca54794d5c022d6bc19308.png
- the hitbot timing misalignment resulting in "double hit" posts -- Warning light mode discord --
https://i.gyazo.com/b9e38529464da0739b387b5f8c4f774a.png - https://i.gyazo.com/6b8edd4a2dce31b95885521d3f88c501.png

 

Firstly, Matt/Gby were consistently getting paid dev fees, received a share of ICS profits and earned calculator subscription-related income. They were actively commissioned to build and maintain software according to OUR specifications over the years - paid for by US intended for OUR exclusive use & operations. To now suggest KOS had no assumed rights or claim to these tools is both disingenuous and revisionist take on how our systems operated for YEARS, and ignores the practical reality of things.

Once again, another report where they're manipulating a delicate & complex situation to fit their narrative completely. They're fully aware the original story is completely different, yet they're choosing to distort the truth to support their claims - again.

They are leveraging the lack of preserved documentation (due to Discord bans and lost messages) to shape a one-sided narrative, fully aware the context has been lost. The so-called “shin incident” is absolutely irrelevant to this report and no need to bring @Shin into this.

This is why they are also not able to provide any proof - because none exists. Instead, what followed was a series of verbal and Discord-based agreements (standard in close-knit online communities) in which we paid ongoing development fees. These weren’t freelance experiments - we assumed, as any PAYING party reasonably would, that we had full rights to what was being made for us.

They have NO binding documentation of ownership on their side either - only an outdated website development proposal that NEVER materialised. Much of the conversations/agreements after this relating to the final ICS agreement were done verbally, through calls or just via discord, as everyone has been around for 5-10+ years and considered each other fairly good friends with long standing trust. They know this. In the end, they were getting paid a DEV fee to DEVELOP for us, from us, and the calc fee as mentioned was paid for by hosts for premium features of the calculator as an extra bonus for them, after we gave them permission to do so.

They were getting paid thousands a month, far beyond a token fee - for active development work. Without notice, they shut down core systems, disabled our bots, exploited our bettors and tried to cause as much damage as they could whilst opening up their own gambling discord - complete with a VIP transfer programme to steal VIP's, poaching as many people as they physically could, with the knowledge that we're going to take a while to get back up and running again. This wasn’t a parting of ways or a peaceful exit - it was sabotage. That context is critical.

Regardless, we've spent a lot of time, effort and money - and re-coded everything from SCRATCH, with nothing left to spare, for the many bots Matt is claiming to own.

As for the OSBot script – the developer didn’t hack anything. The script wasn’t obfuscated or protected in any way. If anything, it was Matt himself who went out of his way to illegaly gain access & decompile our code. By doing that, he exposed sensitive endpoints on our server using client-side code that wasn’t meant to be public & meant to stay within KoS. That’s on him.

Also, the only way he could’ve even gotten access to the script was through one of our hosts – which means he was involved in some level of espionage or went behind our backs to get it. That’s the real issue here, Matt essentially has admitted to blackhat activity himself. No authentication locks were removed. That part is just completely false.

At the end of the day, we’ve worked tirelessly to recover from their sabotage. To now be accused of theft by the very people who attempted to undercut and dismantle us is both ironic and deeply frustrating.

We’re happy to provide whatever evidence is needed to support our position. I hope it's very clear to see, especially with 3 consecutive reports filled with slander and misinformation/irrelevant material, that this is less about facts and more about pushing a personal vendetta. This is nothing more than an ongoing witch hunt.

 

I want to start off by apologising to Sythe staff for having to read my lengthy response to Soul Rich’s unsubstantiated assertions, but given that they continue to spout lies, libel, and slander in an attempt to damage our reputation, even in official Sythe reports, I feel the need to respond with the specifics to every point they make that is irrelevant to this report.

Firstly, Matt/Gby were consistently getting paid dev fees, received a share of ICS profits and earned calculator subscription-related income. They were actively commissioned to build and maintain software according to OUR specifications over the years - paid for by US intended for OUR exclusive use & operations. To now suggest KOS had no assumed rights or claim to these tools is both disingenuous and revisionist take on how our systems operated for YEARS, and ignores the practical reality of things.

Correct, we were paid our developer fee which as previously stated was a transaction fee on the ICS system. We received a share of ICS profits for our work as staff, and yes, we charged hosts for the premium features on the calculator which also included some features on the host bot and plugin.

Of the listed software:

• Host Bot
• Miscellaneous Bot
• Hit Bots
• Caller Bot
• Host Calculator
• Host Plugin
• OSBot custom launcher

They were all created before receiving any payment from KoS in regards to anything around development. These systems did receive constant updates, including the ICS system (which was designed by myself and built to my specification, specifically to prevent issues with previous owner designed splitting systems). The only input on ICS given by the KoS owners was the initial developer fee they agreed to, of which they wanted half of that for themselves, later known as the owner fee.

KingofStakes.live was built and released to bettors before any owner had seen it as it was essentially a learning exercise for myself.The only part of these systems KoS provided specifications for was the Reverse Stakes Bot.
You never paid for or commissioned software for development.

As to your mischaracterisation of the facts around rights:IP law is a complicated issue but given that both developers involved, along with Soul Rich, are all from the UK, we can abide by UK IP laws stated HERE. These laws state that the creator owns the IP unless specified in a contract for the rights to be given to the commissioner. Given that these works were developed independently, to later be used by KoS, and were not funded by KoS, the IP is owned by the creator despite your misguided view that you commissioned this work from us.

They have NO binding documentation of ownership on their side either - only an outdated website development proposal that NEVER materialised. Much of the conversations/agreements after this relating to the final ICS agreement were done verbally, through calls or just via discord, as everyone has been around for 5-10+ years and considered each other fairly good friends with long standing trust. They know this. In the end, they were getting paid a DEV fee to DEVELOP for us, from us, and the calc fee as mentioned was paid for by hosts for premium features of the calculator as an extra bonus for them, after we gave them permission to do so.

As shown above unless contracted elsewhere ownership always belongs to the creator.Calling it a website development proposal is a bit reductive since it was a full rework of the Discord to allow for future web development, and as you say it never materialised. That was my exact point, thank you for confirming that.

When we tried to build a contract with you, it meant you would pay for development and be responsible for those payments, not hosts, but in exchange you would own all new IP. KoS declined the proposal. Yes the conversations have been lost to time, the fact I felt that it was a big enough point I put it specifically as a PRO point that KoS would own the IP, it makes it pretty clear of the situation. Once again, the DEVELOPER fee was paid for by hosts, not you, as specified in my previous breakdown of the fees of the ICS system.

They were getting paid thousands a month, far beyond a token fee - for active development work. Without notice, they shut down core systems, disabled our bots, exploited our bettors and tried to cause as much damage as they could whilst opening up their own gambling discord - complete with a VIP transfer programme to steal VIP's, poaching as many people as they physically could, with the knowledge that we're going to take a while to get back up and running again. This wasn’t a parting of ways or a peaceful exit - it was sabotage. That context is critical.

That is an interesting take, the value of our fee is a moot point in this discussion; it was a preset and defined transaction fee.

You say without notice, however you decided you no longer wanted to pay our developer fee, giving some vague promise of a new payment structure on the 10th of May when there was data to look at and finalise payments out to people. After days of being ignored over wanting to have this discussion over the new pay, we did in fact turn off our bots running on our servers and left the discord. There was no notice because you guys refused to come to the meeting YOU planned to discuss future payments, which if your new terms were not agreeable you would have been told the bots would be shutting down and offered the potential to purchase them and we would all split ways, as the fundamentals are, you did not own any of this software, nor the underlying infrastructure it ran on, as such that was well within our rights.

Regardless, we've spent a lot of time, effort and money - and re-coded everything from SCRATCH, with nothing left to spare, for the many bots Matt is claiming to own.

As for the OSBot script – the developer didn’t hack anything. The script wasn’t obfuscated or protected in any way. If anything, it was Matt himself who went out of his way to illegally gain access & decompile our code. By doing that, he exposed sensitive endpoints on our server using client-side code that wasn’t meant to be public & meant to stay within KoS. That’s on him.

Although you claim to have re-coded everything from scratch, you admit my OSBot script was neither obfuscated nor access-restricted. That authentication endpoint was the sole barrier enforcing my licensing terms. When I shut down the entire API to revoke your access, all script launches should have immediately failed. Instead, you rebuilt the authentication endpoint to accept revoked credentials, deliberately defeating my only technical lock. Because the service was entirely disabled, no logs exist of those bypassed calls, which underscores how covert and intentional this override was. Decompiling code for intellectual property review is a standard, lawful investigatory step, but restoring disabled credentials crosses into unauthorised hacking. At no point did I incorporate your decompiled code into my own work or distribute it for profit.

Also, the only way he could’ve even gotten access to the script was through one of our hosts – which means he was involved in some level of espionage or went behind our backs to get it. That’s the real issue here, Matt essentially has admitted to blackhat activity himself. No authentication locks were removed. That part is just completely false.

This point needs no rebuttal.

We’re happy to provide whatever evidence is needed to support our position. I hope it's very clear to see, especially with 3 consecutive reports filled with slander and misinformation/irrelevant material, that this is less about facts and more about pushing a personal vendetta. This is nothing more than an ongoing witch hunt.

Please provide any signed IP assignment agreements. In their absence, UK law presumes that the creator retains all rights, making the OSBot script entirely my intellectual property. Bypassing the technical lock on this script constitutes unauthorized hacking. The code has been submitted to Techie for independent review, and no further matters are relevant to this report.
Although a code review feels unnecessary at this point since soul rich has admitted that they are using my script.

As for the OSBot script – the developer didn’t hack anything. The script wasn’t obfuscated or protected in any way.

 

@GPSwap what was the relationship between you and @Soul Rich? i.e. employee, contractor, vendor
Do you have any proof of any contracts/agreements/payments to support that?
Sythe doesn't operate off of UK law however you're welcome to take it to their courts.

 

@GPSwap what was the relationship between you and @Soul Rich? i.e. employee, contractor, vendor
Do you have any proof of any contracts/agreements/payments to support that?
Sythe doesn't operate off of UK law however you're welcome to take it to their courts.

@Techie sorry for the delay, I was away for a few days,
I was a host within kos (a purchased rank),
I ran kos's advertising bots for a while (was paid with percentage of rank sales for abit),
I was then given staff (which was entirely unpaid, after I built the ics system it involved a small profit share) (assistant mod, then mod, then given the title of dev) there was no contracts or agreements ever made despite my attempts. There is probably a couple of crypto transactions from selling wallet but no real payments and that is likely it.

 

@GPSwap
I should clarify I meant the relationship in this transaction. Given what I've read it appears you were hired as a developer and there is a good chance the software you produced to complete your role is fine for @Soul Rich / KoS to use/modify/redistribute unless otherwise agreed upon.
Do you have any chat logs(context/evidence) surrounding the employment/transaction(s)? Was there a terms of service agreed upon? If so, what were the terms?
There is an overall lack of context/evidence in this report and a lack of info on the arrangement. There is also either conflicting or lacking in clarity of what the developer fee was covering. At one point it appears it does cover server costs but not server costs for the bots. At another it appears you indeed are being paid out from the developer fee as staff.
I'd recommend keeping it clear by focusing on one piece of software that violated your agreement.

 

Hi @Techie , I do apologise for the lack of clarity but that is because the situation itself has no clarity because kos NEVER formalised anything, no contract ever existed, there was no employment, no requests for this software to be built.

I was never hired by kos for anything, I purchased a hosting rank, made software to make my time hosting easier, which I then obtained permission to distribute to hosts with a subscription attached, in reference to this specific bot script for hosting, years later kos added a developer role onto me on the discord without input from me.

KoS made this mandatory for hosts to use the “lite” or free version, at a minimum, after in-game changes introduced new risks for itself in regard to hosts scamming the clan. But it was always as a 3rd party and not a kos owned product.

I don't think it would be fair to get a new discord role, and suddenly they own my privately owned legacy software.

 

I'm sorry @GPSwap, I can't penalize @Soul Rich when there isn't evidence regarding the ownership. If you're able to make a new report with screenshots of agreements or interactions had with @Soul Rich showing otherwise then please do.
In the future, I highly recommend both of you to come to an agreement regarding licensing/ownership since at this time it's not clear at all.