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  1. Unread #1 - Mar 3, 2019 at 10:17 PM
  2. Dev Zach
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    Scammer's profile link: @iStake54
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    #1 Gambling Server - Stake Land

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    Username: iStaky#6542
    Discord User ID: 424233412673536000

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    Username: Deleted User 73093499#5648
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    Explanation:

    I had sold a bot to @iStake54 for use in his discord server and we came to an agreement of 5% of bot profits every other week. This week he refused to pay me the 5% until I met his new demands which I had never agreed to.


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    Creating a new bot and giving him the code to this new bot was never in the original contract. I did this outside of the contract as he had asked me to. I was planning on creating a new contract with this bot which he refused multiple times. I have 2 bots in his server now and he is refusing to pay me for the first bot which we had already agreed upon the 5%. When I took the bot offline due to his refusal to pay me, he used my code against my will and created a new bot and took it back online (he holds the code, and vpn to the first bot). This is both a violation of contract and a violation of copyright (my code is copyrighted that no other person is to see or edit my code more info here: No License).

    Also what's included in the contract:

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    The first 4 are already copyright laws and intellectual property rights and the 5th was agreed upon between @iStake54 and myself.

    tl;dr
    @iStake54 has refused to pay me for my work after adding extra demands before paying. After taking down my bot he used my code illegally to create a new bot and is currently using it.
     
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  3. Unread #2 - Mar 4, 2019 at 4:06 AM
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    first of all id like to mention that you are accusing me of something you did several times, wasted me days and took my bot down and refuse to get it back on for almost a week because I wouldn't agree to your new terms (which you wanted me to agree to so you can fuck me up) + acting like you didn't know why the bot was down even though it was you who took it down, until you ruined a whole week for my server and costed me money from betting competitions.
    these however are not extra demands. I asked for them long ago and you didn't seem to have a problem until yesterday. same with telling you that I will get a new coder when you retire (you told me several times you would retire on 4th of the month) and will pay them instead of you. I have bought the code as I mentioned in our agreed contract but you still refuse to let me see it on your GitHub and refuse to give me the code you have coded last week. that's what I'm waiting for to pay you.
     
  5. Unread #3 - Mar 4, 2019 at 4:08 AM
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    Could you please share this contract/agreement and make it public? I'm unaware of this being in there.
     
  7. Unread #4 - Mar 4, 2019 at 2:21 PM
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    thats a part of it
     
  9. Unread #5 - Mar 4, 2019 at 2:31 PM
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    Thank you for clarifying. I e-mailed you the code to the Stake Land bot about 4 weeks ago and you confirmed that you had received it. But I don't think this is really relevant to the fact that you're currently using a bot which you refuse to pay for unless I meet your new demands.
     
  11. Unread #6 - Mar 4, 2019 at 8:11 PM
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    oh which new demands? there arent any new ones
     
  13. Unread #7 - Mar 4, 2019 at 8:29 PM
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    The new demands which are in the original post. You are refusing to pay me the 5% for the original bot I created. You broke the original terms we agreed upon after I created this 2nd bot for you.
     
  15. Unread #8 - Mar 5, 2019 at 6:43 AM
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    no I didn't break them what are you talking about? you didn't even give me the code. I am not scamming you the last payment. I'm just waiting to get what I will pay for. which I already paid for by the way but you got that code "stolen" or whatever so tbf I shouldn't even pay you again for this.
     
  17. Unread #9 - Mar 5, 2019 at 3:12 PM
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    I posted the proof above of me e-mailing you the code on February 2nd. I deleted it due to sensitive info in the screenshots.
     
  19. Unread #10 - Mar 5, 2019 at 3:21 PM
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    i didnt happen to see before you deleted but either way im talking about the new code that you got "stolen" from your friend barry and had to recode
     
  21. Unread #11 - Mar 5, 2019 at 3:23 PM
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    I don't think the code for the second bot I created for you is relevant as to why I'm not getting paid for the first bot I made for you. I'm under no contract for the second bot as you refused to make one.
     
  23. Unread #12 - Mar 5, 2019 at 3:56 PM
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    what does it matter if im using another bot for that part of the code to avoid the main one from lagging? lmao
     
  25. Unread #13 - Mar 5, 2019 at 5:00 PM
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    My point has been made and no progress is being made on this matter. I'll wait for a rank to intervene.
     
  27. Unread #14 - Mar 12, 2019 at 7:50 PM
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    This is currently being discussed by the entire staff team.

    In particular clarification of the details of contract, which @Pendulum had already started looking into. Once we've come to a decision it will be posted here. If any extra information is required from either of you, you will be contacted. Until then, patiently wait.
     
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  29. Unread #15 - Mar 19, 2019 at 7:41 AM
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    Upon deliberating with staff, we've concluded that no clear ToS were provided by @iStake54, not directly to @Dev_Zach or staff members who have repeatedly reached out for clarification. Despite multiple efforts, you've brushed staff aside, refused to co-operate and even hinted staff could not be trusted.

    You had no grounds or basis to stop the weekly payments and we hold you liable for these. @Dev_Zach was in his rights to terminate the bot since you refused to pay, you had no right to create a second bot using his code. You're expected to pay for all the weekly payments missed up until today. You're also not allowed to use a second bot because you never purchased full ownership of any. a DNT has been applied until these weekly payments are made.

    A mutual agreement can be discussed once these payments are cleared and you've stopped using the bot.
     
  31. Unread #16 - Mar 19, 2019 at 11:05 AM
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    I have been patiently waiting for a pm from one of you guys since you said in your previous post you would contact us if more info is needed. however I only received pms from 1 person who stopped pming me before we came to any conclusion and ignored my last msgs so Ive been waiting. so basically as far as I remember I havent talked with anyone about this. so which staff member"s" who have "repeatedly" reached out are you talking about? I'm confused. Its clear that you have only pmed Zach about this which makes no sense since I have said multiple times that he is wrong. I will pm you then myself.
     
  33. Unread #17 - Mar 19, 2019 at 4:09 PM
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    Ok so lets get all this straight from the beginning because I feel that i need to say the whole story in order for people to understand my situation. If you dont care you can skip these parts of this msg.


    Zach approached me months ago and asked me if he could host giveaways for my server, I saw that he was pretty good at it so after a while I promoted him to a giveaway admin, in the meanwhile we kept chatting for hours daily and he seemed to show an unusual interest in helping my server without asking for much or anything back, he also said multiple times he wasnt doing this for money and couldnt care less about any income and if he would get any it would be for fun
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489942282397810698/557611304316043286/unknown.png
    which is obviously a lie since he was basically insta selling all his payments and betrayed me for a better offer without second thoughts.

    After all those promises he made i basically had no choice but accept his "help" because not only it seemed beneficial but also because I thought of him as a friend (yea he was acting like he was my friend for months and up to this day he still tries to act like it sometimes to manipulate me into doing something that will fuck me up such as change our deal for the bot, give him info). So I hired him and gave him a chance to become the dev of my server. At that point I had no clue what kind of person he is so Id say im lucky i didnt just blindly accept all his offers and i made agreements to them (because I always like to do clean work and want to eliminate as many possibilties for both parties to scam/fuck eachother as possible).
    After a while the bot was at a really good condition and I was very happy with it. I felt lucky to have him on my team because he kept promising too much. For example he would say that he will be hosting giveaways, coding whatever I need and always keeping my codes the best compared to other clans, help the server grow in every way he could, code a whole gambling and gold trading website for me. I couldnt express my appreciation. So ofc I trusted this guy to the point I wouldnt have any worries about him scamming me using the code, nor taking down the bot and leaving my clan closed for long. I promoted him to admin, he was the only admin and he got a free host rank as well.
    At some point I noticed that he started talking alot with people from other clans and he would say that its just so he can get news, collect information about other clans easier. He wanted to code for someone else eventho we agreed he wouldnt so for that one time I told him its ok since I felt bad taking a "friend's" payment away. Then stuff got a bit more serious.. he started giving permissions to a host who was his friend to get bets wayy over max and lied that I told him he could do that (and many other stuff that I either cant remember or wanna skip cause this msg will be too long) he seemed to know too much and then i started worrying that he wasnt honest. He told me that he and a few others were participating into "taking down" @Mentarley 's server. I told him that I didnt like this and wanted him to stop but he was too into it.. then he made me believe that ment was the bad guy of the story and that he fked over his ranks, basically made me believe he is doing the right thing... then ONCE AGAIN he sweared not to code for anyone else and to see this to the end (meaning he would do his best for my server and only) and kept acting like im one of his best friends or something as he said a few times.
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489942282397810698/557621911060873217/unknown.png

    In the meanwhile he was secretely coding and getting his new clan staff ready. Ready to snake all my and ment's staff with (probably) fake promises and lies. Just to kill our servers and be able to easily start his. Ment pmed me several times about zach secretely coding a bot that I definitely didnt know about and would never let him create. He even said I gave him permission to do it eventho he knew I would never.
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489942282397810698/557624925842833409/unknown.png
    These unhonest and disloyal stuff kept happening for a while, I kept getting more and more disappointed in him but I kept trying to save our friendship and kept asking him for explanations for whatever would happen each time. As you see in the previous screenshot he was acting like he still cared too much and would see this to the end and all kinds of shit. He kept doing that until the last second that he pmed me that he was leaving and he tried scamming my code by taking it with him on his way (he secretely made it private from me a while ago and I didnt notice because I trusted him enough not to check and I let him host it completely by himself until it was all ready).
    However after days of arguing he understood that he had to give me the code or he would get banned on sythe. I gave him multiple chances before reporting him but he kept playing his game of "unless you agree to my new contract" and accept all his bullshit (which he kept changing all the time btw) that he would prob use later on (now) to fuck me, he wouldnt give me the code. I gave him his last chance and he gave it to me when he knew he would be reported.
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489942282397810698/557627722008887326/unknown.png
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489942282397810698/557628195692871710/unknown.png

    He also pmed all my hosts, cashiers, giveaway hosts and even bettors to join him by promising them something better and invite even more from my server (i assume thats what they did to ment's server too).
    When he realized he couldnt completely fuck my server he started doing other crap. I guess he needs me out of the way so im no competition to his server. Other stuff such as taking down my bot and taking advantage of my lack of coding knowledge to lie and say that he didnt know why the bot was down and would take him long to fix. Days later he admitted that he only needed to post the new bot token (because he reset it) on the hosting website for the bot to run again, but he still wouldnt do it and ONCE AGAIN use it and taking advantage of it to make me accept his new contract. I was worried that he didnt give a shit about getting banned on sythe since he only just lately created his account and has no rep to destroy, but I still didnt fall for his crap and stood my ground. He then started telling me that he isnt obligated to fix it (like he was saying about not being obligated to give me my code) and trying to manipulate me (because i was in need of my bot. the server suffered alot from it. People have money into that bot that they wanted to withdraw or gamble/deposit or whatever. He was also costing me money because I pay top5 bettors and they barely had any time to bet) into believing that he is right and that we have no contract, so he could get me to agree to his new terms which he would obviously getting ready to use at this point, right now, against me ;)

    Zach is the most doublefaced person ive ever met in my life and I feel sorry for whoever new works with him and trusts him. If they dont take precautions not only he can fuck them up but he can break them. Im lucky that I never fully trusted him with everything eventhough he kept asking a while before he left for stuff such as getting full permissions for my server and basically be able to ban everyone/delete it. Due to my experience with traitors though I didnt. And I guess at that point he knew he couldnt manipulate me into doing anything else or giving him any more power and he thought he had the right to take my code, so it was the perfect timing since he fked up ments server and got all his ranks to make a new server, to do the same to me.

    So as soon as i wrote all this I got pmed this so I want to add it as another example.
    Thats what he and his puppets have been doing and now with me being DNT they are taking more advantage to it. Just got pmed from one of my ranks this
    https://media.discordapp.net/attach...90319-115152_Discord.jpg?width=335&height=670
    He has been legit trying to interract with him and get as close to him as possible since he left, so he can manipulate him to join them as well. Like he did with all my ranks.

    This is my point of view. I know its aloot of stuff and most of you havent read it all but I had to type it publically so I dont keep answering each pm separetely about what happened. Thanks to whoever read it all. Theres much more to it and more stuff kept coming to my mind while i was writing this but i tried to include as much as i could remember right now and not make it even longer either.
     
  35. Unread #18 - Mar 19, 2019 at 4:11 PM
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    Now regarding what im accused of in this report.
    First of all I want to express my opinion without any offense, that sythe staff havent done their job right. It might be 1 person's fault or a little by all, or even a miscommunication. Once again, I dont want to seem rude but you made a post saying:
    "In particular clarification of the details of contract, which @Pendulum had already started looking into. Once we've come to a decision it will be posted here. If any extra information is required from either of you, you will be contacted. Until then, patiently wait."

    I have waited pretty long. And the only one who has pmed me was pendulum as far as I remember, now its my turn to apologize for not straight up giving all the info without any questions asked, but if you read my post above you will understand that I have to be very defensive with this. He has been sending people to pm me and try to fish info out of me and even make me "admit" that we do not have a contract. He legit was playing with the word "bot" instead of "code" once i confronted him about scamming my code. He claimed that I used the word bot instead of code when I said I would buy it permanently and not rent it from him. So you can tell that I need to be as careful as possible. I really cba anymore tho. Its time we get this over with so this is sorted once and for all.
    So to make sure im safe i asked @Pendulum if sythe staff can deal with situations in pms and if he could promise that he wouldnt share the information i gave him with zach until he tells me and i accept, just so id make sure he isnt just another guy on his side trying to see what i have on him so he can play his game differently. Because believe me im tired of this.
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489942282397810698/557643113653469204/unknown.png
    However he chose to ignore me and i guess got mad at me eventho I wasnt being disrespectful. I was just trying to make sure what their rules are in these situation and if he could not share the info with zach. I thought he was just busy and it could be that, but then I got accused of this :
    "we've concluded that no clear ToS were provided by @iStake54, not directly to @Dev_Zach or staff members who have repeatedly reached out for clarification. Despite multiple efforts, you've brushed staff aside, refused to co-operate and even hinted staff could not be trusted."
    I havent been pmed by many staff members, none of them repeatedly reached out, there werent multiple efforts, i didnt brush staff aside, neither refused to co-operate. Maybe thats just a miscommunication but I just needed to mention it.
    So basically somehow this desicion was made by just and only getting incomplete "proof" by zach in pms instead of both of us. Worst case scenario I expected a pm saying that you wont agree not to share it with zach but i still had to tell you. IDK why you got mad at me and just dropped it like that.

    I want to also mention that the main reason I didnt share these staff before i needed to( and i didnt seem to need to since zach didnt deny what i said about him not giving me the code for his last payment) is so zach wouldnt see it and go back to delete and erase what we said. This is very important because he has the advantage of having close to nothing to lose by being exposed as scammer or unhonest or anything since he had no reputation other what I gave him in my server. So I tried playing it smart and hopefully collect all the info needed before he would see some of it and search it to delete everything else we said at the time we were making our contract. Since you give me no other choice at the moment though, here we go I will share it. I think its time, and i think i have collected all the info needed in screenshots anyway, so him deleting something will only make his case worse at this point.

    1. "Upon deliberating with staff, we've concluded that no clear ToS were provided by @iStake54, not directly to @Dev_Zach or staff members"
    He knows very well that we do have a contract, since he did admit it in several situations such as this one
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489942282397810698/557642398306664455/unknown.png


    2."You had no grounds or basis to stop the weekly payments and we hold you liable for these. @Dev_Zach was in his rights to terminate the bot since you refused to pay, you had no right to create a second bot using his code. You're expected to pay for all the weekly payments missed up until today. You're also not allowed to use a second bot because you never purchased full ownership of any. a DNT has been applied until these weekly payments are made."

    I definitely do have grounds or basis to stop the weekly payments. He resigned and obviously doesnt want to work for the good of my server anymore. Exactly the opossite actually. He wants to fuck me up. Not only he attempted and took down the bot several times + lied to me and proved himself not trustworthy by saying he didnt know whats wrong with the bot and then admitting the bot token was reset all those days and all he needed was a minute to fix it and not hours as he said, but he also broke way too many of our agreements which ofc includes not coding for other clans. Obviously I cant keep him working for it even if he wanted to because he will keep taking advantage of my lack of coding knowledge. So I will most prob hire another dev and pay him instead from now on. Zach has been paid for all the time he used to be working until he stopped. And it even was his choice! (and i even paid him more than i should have because its been too long since he stopped working on my code eventho he said he would)

    We have several agreements and some of the most important ones are:
    - Proof that I own the CODE not just the bot as he used to say... (which was a stupid claim anyway.. just playing with words, but if he wants to play that way then :shrug:)
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489942282397810698/557648341350219778/unknown.png
    - Proof that he HAS to fix it and provide me all the updates i need on time!(which he tried to make me believe he didnt have to and WOULD LEGIT TAKE THE CODE AND LET ME USE THE BOT AS LONG AS IT WENT THROUGH A BUG AND STOPPED WORKING AND WOULDNT LET ME BUY UPDATES FOR IT FROM OTHERS, NOR HE WOULD UPDATE IT IF I NEEDED SOMETHING! WHICH IS ESSENTIAL. Those who own bots know that they always need something changed/fixed and updates)
    https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/489942282397810698/557650134096412682/unknown.png
    - Proof he is retiring and no longer working on bot (which happened weeks/months ago but whatever!)
    https://media.discordapp.net/attach...488517705729/unknown.png?width=738&height=670

    He is a huge snake and liar. Its a fact. He would make me believe that he would code so much for me, such as a website and RS bots and everything I needed. He would "see this to the end" hours later he turns all this around out of the blue and finally shows his real self.
    There are more that keep coming to my mind and I want to keep adding but I think thats alrdy too much and more than enough. I dont think many care that much about the whole story though so I wont keep typing and tiring you. If theres anything else needed lmk but Im pretty sure its more than enough.
    As you can see in this pic
    https://media.discordapp.net/attach...90319-115152_Discord.jpg?width=335&height=670
    he is taking advantage of this and calls me a scammer in order to get all the staff I have left to join him. So Id appreciate if this was dealt with asap.
     
  37. Unread #19 - Mar 19, 2019 at 5:41 PM
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    A few things for clarification:

    1. The first message is completely irrelevant to this case.
    2. Please refrain from attempting to defame and attack me as it's irrelevant to this report and incredibly childish.
    3. I have asked and even begged countless times to create an official contract since we didn't have one (although this is not really relevant in this context).
    4. I have asked to at least view the contract that you are currently binding me to (some of these screenshots you sent of the contract that I am bound to have never been shown to me before today).
    5. I am going off of the assumption that I know what is contained in my side of the contract. I am still not sure what I am being held accountable to on your side of the contract.


    Some examples of me asking to see our contract (in chronological order dating from January 28 through February 25 of this year):

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    The first part as i said was posted because I feel the need to express the whole story and how this happened and we ended up here. I might have been kinda weak and trusted you but I still gave you those stuff to agree to and you did agree. Im glad I thought that this could go south( never expected it to be that bad as u made it be tho ) and I made sure we agreed on those terms.
    The fact that you ve been trying to get me to agree to other agreements because you thought id fall into the trap doesnt change anything :) Im not that stupid. I even mentioned it myself that you ve been trying to get me to agree to other stuff all the time, and mostly whenever you broke the bot and I had to basically keep begging you for days to fix it, or when you wouldnt give me my code. So whats your point?
     
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