Should luring be against the rules?

[l0llyp0pst3r]

I voted yes because luring to me is exactly like scamming. In a sense luring on Rs is an offsite scam since ur scamming on another site so that's my view point

 

[RocketPower]

Luring = scamming

 

[Wiggle]

Yes from me but every "noob" should be aware of this happen and learn how to not fall for it. So yeah might be 50/50 !

 

Refer to my above post. It's under the same generalisation, yes, I agree. However, that wasn't my intention to give it a blanket term. In short, what differs luring from other methods of deception?

I think Folt put it nicely. The abuse of those glitches were fueled by the desire of making money rather than targeting a specific individuals.

That's actually wrong. J-Mods have openly said on the oldschool forum/livestreams they aren't going to ban for Luring. That rule was also only for wilderness lures, not anything outside. Again, that rule is outdated and never enforced.

I'm assuming there were conflicting stands on luring in the past, but this is taken from the official website: "luring is a term that is most often used to describe a player deceiving another player by leading them into dangerous combat zones such as the wilderness, clan wars red-portal and also making a dangerous clan fight within the purple portal." Where does it say that it is only restricted to wilderness lures? It says dangerous combat zones SUCH as the wilderness, not ONLY the wilderness. And, this is taken from the RuneScape Wiki: "On 29 March, 2007, Jagex updated Rule 2 to make "luring someone into the wilderness under false pretenses a bannable offence."" This is backed up by the official website which also states "luring is considered an undesirable player behaviour and is therefore reported as "scamming."" Why would they have stated all of this if they just "frowned upon" luring and would never enforce it?

 

[S]

I'm assuming there were conflicting stands on luring in the past, but this is taken from the official website: "luring is a term that is most often used to describe a player deceiving another player by leading them into dangerous combat zones such as the wilderness, clan wars red-portal and also making a dangerous clan fight within the purple portal." Where does it say that it is only restricted to wilderness lures? It says dangerous combat zones SUCH as the wilderness, not ONLY the wilderness. And, this is taken from the RuneScape Wiki: "On 29 March, 2007, Jagex updated Rule 2 to make "luring someone into the wilderness under false pretenses a bannable offence."" This is backed up by the official website which also states "luring is considered an undesirable player behaviour and is therefore reported as "scamming."" Why would they have stated all of this if they just "frowned upon" luring and would never enforce it?

Yep, they don't enforce it. What I said was recent, J-mods have brought the issue up when popular live streamers on RS were found in lures/caught/victim of lures.

 

Yep, they don't enforce it. What I said was recent, J-mods have brought the issue up when popular live streamers on RS were found in lures/caught/victim of lures.

Source? Why would the official website say the complete opposite, though? Also, this message from a Jagex moderator was also recent:

 

[SuF]

Have we not already decided on this 9000 times before? Why do this again?

 

[Zicellix]

Have we not already decided on this 9000 times before? Why do this again?

Because a majority of people on Sythe still disagree with the decision made 9000 times ago or whatever.

IMO, luring should be a bannable offence on Sythe.

 

[Shin]

Have we not already decided on this 9000 times before? Why do this again?

http://www.sythe.org/13720755-post39.html

 

[thelatent]

If you're lured you're either extremely greedy or extremely dumb, so no I don't think it should be banned.

stupidest argument with a shit premise, something a 12 year old would say.

 

Luring is scamming.

 

[SuF]

Luring is scamming.

No it isn't. Scamming involves a broken contract. Luring does not (or at least does need to).

 

[SuF]

Because a majority of people on Sythe still disagree with the decision made 9000 times ago or whatever.

IMO, luring should be a bannable offence on Sythe.

They disagreed even when Jagex said it was perfectly fine.

 

Luring, for the most part, is making someone think they can trust you and building a false sense of security; then stealing their bank. Just like scamming anything else.

 

[SuF]

Luring, for the most part, is making someone think they can trust you and building a false sense of security; then stealing their bank. Just like scamming anything else.

How is that not just a part of a multiplayer game?

Edit: I'd build trust and betray people in any RTS out there. It is a part of the gameplay.

 

It may be, but we have a no-scam policy and that in my eyes is stealing, shows the same traits as any other scammer on Sythe and shouldn't be allowed/encouraged here.

 

[n4n0]

Dear god, do we really need to address this issue every other month?

RICHARD HAS ALREADY SAID IT'S ALLOWED. QUIT ARGUING WITH THE FUCKING OWNER OF THE SITE.

 

[Xolr]

Once when I first started runescape, someone convinced me to follow them into the wilderness. They pked me and I lost my steel 2h. I was pissed. Was this scamming? No. Was it luring? Yes. Whose fault was it? Mine. Luring, although immoral, is not scamming.

 

[Robert Nesta]

Dear god, do we really need to address this issue every other month?

RICHARD HAS ALREADY SAID IT'S ALLOWED. QUIT ARGUING WITH THE FUCKING OWNER OF THE SITE.

I love you.

 

[SuF]

It may be, but we have a no-scam policy and that in my eyes is stealing, shows the same traits as any other scammer on Sythe and shouldn't be allowed/encouraged here.

Here is different than in the game then?