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Osama's death was not justified

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The idea of giving him a fair trial is ludicrous the idea of him even getting one is insane the possibility of him even being found innocent alone would cause a world wide crisis because the united states could not possibly not act if he was for some reason found innocent killing him was the only option when he decided to kill thousands of innocent americans he lost his right to a trial or in any case a fair one.

So if I accuse you of killing thousands of people you lose your right to a fair trial? Okay. You killed thousands of people. Where do you live? I'm going to come shoot you in the head as punishment without you being able to defend yourself because you have lost the right to a fair trial.
 
So if I accuse you of killing thousands of people you lose your right to a fair trial? Okay. You killed thousands of people. Where do you live? I'm going to come shoot you in the head as punishment without you being able to defend yourself because you have lost the right to a fair trial.

lmao really, who cares about a fair trial. they had every right to do what they did, and pakistan helped the u.s find osama. i know people serving in pakistan and iraq, its WAR what do u expect.
 
He's blatantly not dead hence why they are not showing him in other words, why they killed him instantly and threw him into the Sea.
 
If he wanted a fair trial he would have came out of his holes and said something. He was a high threat on the world so we did something about it. When a cop pulls over a car and the man pulls out a gun the cop does the same. Ossama pulled out bombs and killed many so what we did to him isn't even enough to justify what he did. I wish we ripped him limb my limb if you ask me.
 
You think he deserved a fair trial? That is the most idiotic thing I have ever heard in my entire life. He deserved a harsher death than being shot and dumped into the ocean. They should have captured rather than killed right away.

He should have been tortured until death, that is what he truly deserved. He is responsible for 1000s of innocent lives viciously taken away for no good reason whatsoever.
 
When I first found out that Osama was dead, I was happy. I thought this meant that progress was being made and that the US was closer to pulling out of the middle east. However, this happiness quickly turned into utter disgust. Regardless of crimes committed, he deserved a fair trial. By senselessly killing him, the US is simply stating to the world that they are correct in their judgement without allowing Osama to defend himself. The US acts as if it is infallible, which is just wrong. The celebrations occuring throughout the US because of this death also disgust me. Two wrongs do not make a right. Thousands of wrongs, add one more, do not make a right. The hatred that people have for one another and see past emotions to see the actual truth. By expressing joy for a death, you are expressing hatred, and by expressing hatred you are causing hatred.

Discuss.

He did not deserve a fair trial, we are at war with Al Qaeda. He leads Al Qaeda, they aren't entitled to a trial. He has been a cause of thousands of deaths and wished to continue to kill more innocent people. There is justification for his death, if he were put on trial he would certainly receive the death penalty and he wouldn't bother defending himself in court and would only yell something like "death to America!"

Hatred is human nature, it won't ever end. Two wrongs don't make a right but the second wrong eliminates the mofo that started the problem to begin with and helps prevent another wrong.

If you really cared about unjustified deaths and hatred in the world you would try and look at the broader aspect of what goes on daily in the world and not a single death of someone who would kill millions given the chance. I feel like you only made this thread with the intent of arguing considering nearly everyone would oppose your point of view. Go read about what is going on in Africa today or complain about the wars the US is in.

So if I accuse you of killing thousands of people you lose your right to a fair trial? Okay. You killed thousands of people. Where do you live? I'm going to come shoot you in the head as punishment without you being able to defend yourself because you have lost the right to a fair trial.

It isn't like this is some random guy who we are accusing of killing thousands of people. We know who he is, who he leads, what he has done and what he planned to do.

Do you think Hitler deserved a fair trial if he was captured? Or do you believe everyone was just accusing him and he should have had a chance to explain why millions of people were dying?
 
although the saying: an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind is true, i believe that the killing of Osama is justifiable.
He declared war on us multiple times in videos and personally claimed the 9-11 attacks as coordinated by him and his underlings. There is nothing fair about war, it is nasty, bloody, and people regardless of their race/age/gender will die. I know i would not hesitate to put a bullet through his head if i was given the chance, knowing that me might be thinking up another way to kill my friends and family. FUCK THAT.
 
Ok so hypothetically lets say Obama's death was not justified what do we do with him I still think giving him a trial would be the biggest media circus ever most likely resulting in many attempts to retaliate while he is on trial by his followers, and not to mention the fact that there is no option but to find him guilty. Because even if he was found innocent for some insane reason you still have to kill him if your the United States yeah maybe killing him was not justified but his death was justified the United States had every right to kill him after what he did to the U.S.
 
He killed thousands he deserved death. The celebrating kinda was disgusting
 
The Constitution of the United States has no provision necessitating for due process to be given to enemy combatants in times of war. President Obama, the Commander-in-chief of the armed forces, ordered Navy SEALS to invade Osama bin Laden's compound and kill him. This depraved individual, a man who is infamous for his mass-murders, undoubtedly deserved death for his crimes, and any attempt to capture, rather than kill him, would have further and needlessly endangered the lives of the American forces involved in this ordeal.

By declaring war on the U.S., bin Laden forfeited any right to due process, and his death was therefore entirely justified.
 
When I found out about his death, I wasn't happy, I was actually worried because obviously this would cause more conflict in the middle east. I'm also disgusted by how Obama said that killing this man was America's greatest achievement. Sure he was a bad person, but it's disgusting to celebrate someone's death in a very joyful way.
 
So if I accuse you of killing thousands of people you lose your right to a fair trial? Okay. You killed thousands of people. Where do you live? I'm going to come shoot you in the head as punishment without you being able to defend yourself because you have lost the right to a fair trial.
This actually made me laugh you could be on cnn man he crashed a fucking plane into the trade center he planned it he kills U.S people and his people. all this liberal BS is crazy. First good thing Obama did in office. It's like saying why would we just bomb Hitler? shouldn't we have given him a fair trial? lol sometimes a mans gotta be a man and say I will protect my country.

oh JIMMY is right

I was happy when I found out he was dead. I was happy a week later and I am happy know.
 
waisting more tax payers money on a trial ? we all know what the outcome would be. and he already got it and we saved some cash seems like a good choice to me.
 
interesting article for all you who think he should have gotten a fair trial:

http://www.military.com/news/articl...-new-targets-big-body-counts.html?ESRC=dod.nl

Though hunted and in hiding, Osama bin Laden remained the driving force behind every recent al-Qaida terror plot, U.S. officials say, citing his private journal and other documents recovered in last week's raid.
Until Navy SEALs killed him a week ago, bin Laden dispensed chilling advice to the leaders of al-Qaida groups from Yemen to London: Hit Los Angeles, not just New York, he wrote. Target trains as well as planes. If possible, strike on significant dates, such as the July 4 Independence Day and the upcoming 10th anniversary of the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
Above all, he urged, kill more Americans in a single attack, to drive them from the Arab world.
Related: Getting Bin Laden -- A Retrospective
Bin Laden's written words show that counterterrorist officials worldwide underestimated how key he remained to running the organization, shattering the conventional thinking that he had been reduced through isolation to being an inspirational figurehead, U.S. officials said Wednesday.
His personal, handwritten journal and his massive collection of computer files show he helped plan every recent major al-Qaida threat the U.S. is aware of, including plots in Europe last year that had travelers and embassies on high alert, two officials said. So far, no new plots have been uncovered in bin Laden's writings, but intelligence officials say it will take weeks, if not months, to go through.

They described the intelligence to The Associated Press only on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to talk publicly about what was found in bin Laden's hideout.
The records show bin Laden was communicating from his walled compound in Pakistan with al-Qaida's offshoots, including the Yemen branch, which has emerged as the leading threat to the United States. Though there is no evidence yet that he was directly behind the attempted Christmas Day 2009 bombing of a Detroit-bound airliner or the nearly successful attack on cargo planes heading for Chicago and Philadelphia, it's now clear that they bear some of bin Laden's hallmarks.
He was well aware of U.S. counterterrorist defenses and schooled his followers how to work around them, the messages to his followers show. Don't limit attacks to New York City, he said in his writings. Consider other areas such as Los Angeles or smaller cities. Spread out the targets.
In one particularly macabre bit of mathematics, bin Laden's writings show him musing over just how many Americans he must kill to force the U.S. to withdraw from the Arab world. He concludes that the smaller, scattered attacks since the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks had not been enough. He tells his disciples that only a body count of thousands, something on the scale of the attacks on New York and Washington, would shift U.S. policy.
He also schemed about ways to sow political dissent in Washington and play political figures against one another, officials said.
The communications were in missives sent via plug-in computer storage devices called flash drives. The devices were ferried to bin Laden's compound by couriers, a process that is slow but exceptionally difficult to track.
Intelligence officials have not identified any new planned targets or plots in their initial analysis of the 100 or so flash drives and five computers that Navy SEALs hauled away. Last week, the FBI and Homeland Security Department warned law enforcement officials nationwide to be on alert for possible attacks against trains, though officials said there was no specific plot.
Officials have not yet seen any indication that bin Laden had the ability to coordinate timing of attacks across the various al-Qaida affiliates in Pakistan, Yemen, Algeria, Iraq and Somalia, and it is also unclear from bin Laden's documents how much the affiliate groups relied on his guidance. The Yemen group, for instance, has embraced the smaller-scale attacks that bin Laden's writings indicate he regarded as unsuccessful. The Yemen branch had already surpassed his central operation as al-Qaida's leading fundraising, propaganda and operational arm.
Al-Qaida has not named bin Laden's successor, but all indications point to his No. 2, Ayman al-Zawahri. The question is whether al-Zawahri, or anyone, has the ability to keep so many disparate groups under the al-Qaida banner. The groups in Somalia and Algeria, for instance, have very different goals focused on local grievances. Without bin Laden to serve as their shepherd, it's possible al-Qaida will further fragment.
British officials said the Americans had shared some information with them about the bin Laden cache, but there had been nothing concrete yet to indicate bin Laden's stamp on any of the recent terror attacks or plans in Britain -- including a European plot last year involving the threat of a Mumbai-style shooting spree in a capital. They spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss matters of intelligence.

Britain's two largest terror attacks and plots -- the 2005 suicide bombings and the trans-Atlantic liquid explosive plot to blow up several airliners in 2006 -- both had trails that led back to Pakistan and al-Qaida figures, but there was never a direct link to bin Laden himself.
Most of the recent plots, including the stabbing of a lawmaker last year, have been traced to al-Qaida in Yemen and specifically the radical American-born cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, British officials have said.
One British official said counterterror authorities had not been tracking bin Laden like they had other terrorists deemed more directly involved in operations.
While Obama has ordered that photos of bin Laden's body be kept from public view, members of the House and Senate Intelligence and Armed Services committees have been making appointments at CIA headquarters to view the graphic images.
Republican Sen. James Inhofe, a Senate Armed Services Committee member, said he spent nearly an hour Wednesday looking over more than a dozen photos taken at the Pakistan compound the night bin Laden was killed and on board the U.S. Navy ship that buried his body at sea.
One of the photos was of bin Laden's head and showed what appeared to be a fatal wound, according to Inhofe.
Some lawmakers had no interest in seeing the photos. Said Democratic Rep. John Garamendi, a member of House Armed Services Committee, "I'm quite satisfied Osama bin Laden is dead."
© Copyright 2011 Associated Press. All rights reserved.
 
Kill One make 100 more, new al-qaeda leader isnt gonna be quite is he.
 
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The Constitution of the United States has no provision necessitating for due process to be given to enemy combatants in times of war. President Obama, the Commander-in-chief of the armed forces, ordered Navy SEALS to invade Osama bin Laden's compound and kill him. This depraved individual, a man who is infamous for his mass-murders, undoubtedly deserved death for his crimes, and any attempt to capture, rather than kill him, would have further and needlessly endangered the lives of the American forces involved in this ordeal.

By declaring war on the U.S., bin Laden forfeited any right to due process, and his death was therefore entirely justified.

By declaring war on the Taliban, Obama forfeited any right to due process, and his death would be entirely justified. Your logical is simply, declaring war on any entity makes you deserve death and thus anyone who supported the war (Obama did) deserve death.
 
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I do believe he should have gotten a trial. But i wouldnt care if he did or not. If hes gone hes gone.

I am however DISGUSTED at people celebrating. Did his death bring their love ones back? no. As you said, two wrongs dont make a right. celebrating a death is immoral and retarded.
 
By declaring war on the Taliban, Obama forfeited any right to due process, and his death would be entirely justified. Your logical is simply, declaring war on any entity makes you deserve death and thus anyone who supported the war (Obama did) deserve death.

You're missing the point entirely, as due process is a legal writ guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. By declaring war against the United States, bin Laden allowed himself to become a military target -- a category distinct from that of a mere criminal -- and thus forfeited any right to due process. Your analogy to Obama declaring war on the Taliban doesn't work because I'm talking strictly about how Osama forfeited his right to due process. Forfeiting due process doesn't necessarily make one deserve to be killed, though it is rather obviously through Osama's actions that the proper course of action was taken -- this man had committed acts of terrorism that had killed thousands, and the only punishment suitable for such malice is death.
 
As others said, it wasn't an execution, they broke into the compound, faced resistance and subdued him, gunfighting and with hostages as "meat shields"

Did he deserve a fair trial? Maybe.
Did he get one? No.


^ very true.

basically what I was about to say :)
 
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