Osama's death was not justified

[SuF]

You're missing the point entirely, as due process is a legal writ guaranteed in the Bill of Rights. By declaring war against the United States, bin Laden allowed himself to become a military target -- a category distinct from that of a mere criminal -- and thus forfeited any right to due process. Your analogy to Obama declaring war on the Taliban doesn't work because I'm talking strictly about how Osama forfeited his right to due process. Forfeiting due process doesn't necessarily make one deserve to be killed, though it is rather obviously through Osama's actions that the proper course of action was taken -- this man had committed acts of terrorism that had killed thousands, and the only punishment suitable for such malice is death.

Who is anyone to say what a person has or has not done without allowing them a chance to defend themselves? Why should we trust the government or the media to accurately portray events? You are throwing innocent until proven guilty right out the window. Your logic still states that Obama is a valid military target. If he got killed, the US would invade some other place as it would be viewed as wrong. He has caused the deaths of hundreds, including many civilians. By doing these things, Obama has forfeited his right to due process and someone should shoot him in the head to deliver justice to those he has killed.

 

[mal3r]

They never exchanged fire.

He was out-numbered.

He had no weapon.

The only person with him was a female.

Considering thoes facts im pretty sure a team of highly-trained federal commando's could capture Bin Laden without killing someone. But they didn't, it's just a little suspicious. Either our country is training a bunch of pansies who shat themselves when they saw Bin Laden, or he died a long time ago. The later one more likely.

 

[Adrian Ochoa]

How do you know they didnt exchange fire? and nice way of pulling up a thread just for the post.

 

[x339]

When i first saw this post i thought "TROLLLIN HARDCORE ON AMERICA" but you actually bring up some good points. Killing Osama like that is extremely hypocrytical of the US

 

[mal3r]

How do you know they didnt exchange fire? and nice way of pulling up a thread just for the post.

Did you even read about what happened in Pakistan? Or did you just hear it on the radio on the way to school? In all the reports including the one made by the federal government Bin Laden was unarmed. How could they have exchanged fire if Bin Laden was unarmed. And i've been part of Sythe for 3 years... i only post when i feel that it is needed.

 

[team mw]

i completely agree with op.Its sad to see so much celebration over 1 death that barely affected anybody but about 2000 people?

 

[malakadang]

i completely agree with op.Its sad to see so much celebration over 1 death that barely affected anybody but about 2000 people?

Actually 9/11 affected the world.

How was airport security preceding 9/11?
How is it now?

 

[SuF]

Actually 9/11 affected the world.

How was airport security preceding 9/11?
How is it now?

The death of Osama does not really directly affect anyone.

 

[wuhh510]

They wanted him dead or alive, they weren't just about to let him escape in order to give him a fair trial. AMERICA FUCK YEAH

 

[Simple]

As much as I agree with you, the result would have been death anyways...

 

[Vendetta108]

Although I am showing up late in this thread, to the original poster, do you believe if he did have a trial the outcome of the situation would be any different? Sure, the social outcomes of this might have been different but it would have resulted in the death sentence. In the situation where we were presented to apprehend him, there were not many options. Fire was being exchanged on both sides, and I'm sure if it was a different case he would have been given one. That is if we had the opportunity to apprehend him.

 

[malakadang]

The death of Osama does not really directly affect anyone.

I never said the death of Osama directly affected anyone to a critical point.

I was eluding to the fact that his actions did, and thus it indirectly affected everyone.

 

[loveyoass1]

they didnt even show any videos of him captured. ALl photoshoped images

 

[Mantitz]

i completely agree with op.Its sad to see so much celebration over 1 death that barely affected anybody but about 2000 people?

Most ignorant post on this forum. Think about this, those people that died from the 9/11 terrorist attacks, have family, friends, and many other relationships that bind them to other people.

As someone else said it affected the world. Have you even been in an airport? Next time think before you post something so stupid.

OT: Justified or not he got what he deserved. I wouldn't care if they walked in on him sleeping and killed him, as this world is a better place without him.

 

[Call me Mike]

they didnt even show any videos of him captured. ALl photoshoped images

And I believe they shouldn't. Running around the world with his head proves nothing besides the fact that you can run. He's dead, he's dead.

 

[Call me Mike]

Osama's death was not justified at all. However, due to circumstances and the high risk of the mission, I believe the end result is favorable.

We could have done worse, as seen below:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benito_Mussolini

^ They hung Mussolini there and threw rocks at him for days because they hated him. That definitely isn't justified either, and at least the US didn't give us the body (or pictures for that matter). Could you imagine what we would do with pictures of him? People in New York would be hanging this up in there bars and shit.

Sure we all deserve a fair trail and right to an attorney, but we can always have a trail without him (and didn't we?) where we can show footage of 9/11, hundred of suicide bombs linked to him, hundreds of tapes declaring his crimes...I think just this once we can go ahead and say he's guilty without an actual trail.

Also, and I'll end here, imagine you're a Navy SEAL going in to kill this guy. Not only do you know he's dangerous and #1 on the most wanted list, but your brand new helicopter just crashed and you're done to one. Not only that, but that helicopter is top secret, so there's objective two for ya. They didn't waste time and couldn't be bothered with a hostage; they took him down as soon as they could and moved on to their next objective. Either way, mission completed.

 

[eddieh20us]

He deserved a trial and when found guilty should have been sentenced to a more respectful death - such as hanging/lethal injection - not a two shots in the chest and one in the head. He was a high value target and our military should have planned better for his CAPTURE instead of EXECUTION. Yes, our military's raid was more of a shoot first and ask questions later.

 

[cregzzz]

The death of Osama does not really directly affect anyone.

Except Osama's people and I believe children?

umad?

 

[jaws101]

I understand your thinking, however I think there is more to this than you think there is. There was a fight going on, and the seals who killed Osama were being fired on. If someone is having people shoot me, I'm not gonna put down my gun and walk up to him and put cuffs on him.
Also, he is known to have killed THOUSANDS of people. Just a thought....
Now, I am not saying I am necessarily happy that he is dead. I am just happy that he can't cause any harm any more

 

[SuF]

I never said the death of Osama directly affected anyone to a critical point.

I was eluding to the fact that his actions did, and thus it indirectly affected everyone.

I was just stating that 9/11 did not effect me in the least. I was young and don't really remember it very well. Thus, a ton of people were not effected by him at all and thus the world would not have been effected by his death.

Except Osama's people and I believe children?

umad?

He was referring to the big picture so I was too.