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    Obama Or Romney?

    I was backing you up with some hard facts. :p


    Right after the debate fact checkers had already called out Romney on several lies. Such as him denying that his tax plan wasn't a 5 trillion dollar cut.

    Also interesting to read:

    http://thinkprogress.org/climate/20...ns-if-you-dont-contribute-your-jobs-at-stake/
    http://www.cnn.com/2012/10/04/politics/fact-check-green-energy/index.html
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corne...omney-falsehoods-during-debate-peter-kirsanow
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/07/robert-gibbs-mitt-romney-budget_n_1946214.html
     
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    One question to Romney supporters. How the fuck do you think hes the better candidate if he never details on what he would do? he doesn't put out his plans.. why? because he doesn't have any. Why is he scared to release taxes?
     
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    Obama, simply because Mitt seems like a truly dishonest and evil person.
     
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    Romney's campaign message is essentially positive whereas Obama's is overwhelmingly negative. Romney is offering concrete and realistic plans to help America grow again and create millions of new jobs.

    Those arguing Obama has made all of these jobs and has "achieved 38% of his promises" you fail to mention that they have only lasted a very short period of time. Although these jobs were created they were also lost months later.

    Obama's record has been horrendous in every category: economic, debt, national security, military strength, energy dependence, social cohesiveness, religious liberty, race relations, healthcare, and business. America is significantly worse off than it was when Obama took office which is why his campaign is increasingly desperate and shrill.

    All of these replies of Romney's attitude towards foreign affairs fail to realize the issues Obama has had over seas; i.e Obama's mistreatment of Israel.

    You all are basing fabricated "facts" to support your misguided opinions. If Obama were so confident and prominent , he wouldn't be so flagrantly neglecting his official duties to feverishly campaign. As i previously stated, Obama has been in office for an entire four years with minimal changes, he is neglecting his priorities towards his country, inevitably resulting in the end of his term.

    Although you can be Probama the evident fact is that Americans want a change, four years with minimal change is too long. Anyone with a basic job failing to keep up with their priorities wouldn't be given four years to change.
     
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    I got a question for you, and I want you to answer me the best way you can.. What are Romney plans? In details.

    LOL you're talking about negative campaigning? LOL Mitt Romney started all the negative ads on the republican debates against Newt,Santorum ect ect, so please man least learn the facts. Obama's mistreatment to israel? Why would you want to waste money when we have problems here already? Why go to war again? why? Debt was mostly inherited by Bush. He's going to be re-elected. Polls don't lie. You're talking about Obama being bad with foreign affairs, yet Mitt Romney went to England and disrespected them on the Olympics..
     
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    Israel and America, war, what?
     
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    We were losing 700,000 jobs a month when Obama took office. We are gaining and have been gaining for a long while now. Romney is not running a positive campaign. Neither is Obama. Romney lies constantly. How SPECIFICALLY has Obama failed in any of the categories you listed?
     
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    • His stimulus failed to keep the unemployment rate below the 8% and is nowhere close to the 6% they predicted it would be at by. It actually increased. Although you can claim we gained jobs, when his $825M stimulus passed we lost over 1.1M jobs.
    • Obamas promise to cut the deficit in half and never presented a plan.
    • Obamacare made health care less affordable. Which he also promised everyone would be able to afford.
    • Obamas home foreclosure policy. It claimed it would help over 9 million homes in the united states, didn't make above 1.5.

    This is just some, not to mention Obama is named the debt king of the last 5 presidents we've had.
     
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    We're "mistreating" Israel because we don't want to give them the green light to attack Iran. You don't know shit.

    The debt was inherited by 8 years of Bush..

    I swear, some people need to start watching CNN, not fox. They need to learn facts and stop listening to their parents.
     
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    The debt has grown $5.3 trillion since Obama took office in 2009, compared to $4.9 trillion in Bush’s eight years.

    As evidence with your previous statements above, i agree.
     
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    Obama didn't do all the 5.3Trillion my friend, it was INHERITED BY BUSH.

    Bush did a $1 trillion in stimulus, two wars that were simply added to the national debt, a prescription drug program for seniors that wasn't paid for and the Bush-era tax cuts that were not matched by cuts in spending, in other words it was not paid for.
     
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    can you somehow back that up?
    obama is specifically telling employers not to give layoff notices until after the election, even though its required by law to give employees a certain number of days in advance if theyre gonna be fired, because he knows its gonna hurt his chances at winning.

    they said that the government will pay court costs if the employees decide to sue.


    is that dishonest?
    if its all about whos more "dishonest and evil", check the facts.
     
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    You must have been thrown off by the word 'grown' which means gotten bigger, developed, lengthened, etc. Obama has raised more debt then Bush did, whether inherited or not, he's added more then Bush ever has in a term. This debate isn't for you, sorry.
     
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    you're so ignorant my friend, Tell me what Mitt Romney wants to do. Tell me 5 things please.

    It didn't grow because of him, it grew because Republicans left him with a horrible economy.



    LMFAO, who told you that? Put a reliable link that's not a right wing website. being evil is saying "Let Detroit go bankrupt" being dishonest is going around the country promising tax breaks for everyone, and then going on a debate and saying he doesn't want to give tax breaks.
     
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    Obama for president!
     
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    According to iSideWith, I side with Obama 86%.
     
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    Needs a poll.
     
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    I'm sorry, but I vote Romney all the way.

    Obama has done nothing but lie, lie and lie some more.

    During his 2008 campaign, he said he would not raise taxes, he would not cut money from medicare, he would keep our military strong, he would keep our space exploration strong, he would create more jobs, he would take away some of the debt, and that doesn't even scratch the surface.

    Obama has cut 716 billion dollars from Medicare to fund Obamacare. He has created more than half the national debt, (From the years of George Washington thru Bill Clinton), in a four year term. He says he is trying to help the middle class, but honestly, again, that is bullshit, his 'Obamacare' is going to raise taxes on the middle class by $2500 dollars per family, per year. He took our space exploration, and gave it over to the Russians. He has basically turned our military into nothing. He is making America weaker day by day. His exact words were, America has too big of a foot-print, and that he wants to reduce that. Obama wants us to turn into a third world country.

    People bitch about Romney not releasing Tax Returns? Well, Obama can't release a birth certificate for fucks sake. People get pissed at Romney for saying that nearly half the American population relies on the government, well, sorry, but they do.

    Obama has raised the national debt from 10 trillion, to 6 trillion, in four years. He is spending money, WE DON'T HAVE, therefore, he is borrowing it from places like, oh, I don't know, China. He's also raised the number of people on Foodstamps form 32 million, to 48 million, in four years. He has passed so many bills, on a partisan basis, meaning if the republicans said, no, we don't want that passed, he passed it anyway.

    Romney has business experience, law experience, and foreign policy experience. Obama, not going to lie, is a great politician, and I was hoping he would go into office in 08 and do good, but he has failed, miserably. You can't blame Bush, for Obama's fuckups. Sure, Obama walked into some bad shit, but, he didn't help it at all, he just made it worse.

    Why do you think Romney KILLED Obama in the first Presidential debate? Because, Romney has what it takes to be a president, and doesn't need a fucking teleprompter to talk.

    Romney created thousands, upon thousands of jobs in Bain Capital, he is a VERY successful business man. People say Romney is going to tax the shit out of the middle class? Yet Obama is ALREADY doing that, Romney actually doesn't want to raise taxes on ANYONE. He, will in reality, be lowering taxes, because he will be MAKING jobs, more jobs, less taxes, less taxes, more income, more income, less debt, less debt, happier America.

    So many people are disillusioned by Obama, and it's surprising people still believe his bullshit.

    Romney is the answer to fix a lot of Americas, well no, Obama's problems.

    Before anyone flames me, with this fact, that fact, and how I'm wrong on this, and that. All of my facts are credited, and 100% non-biased. My step father is a bipartisan political analyst, meaning, he doesn't pick or choose between Republican or Democrat, he picks who have the most experience, and will help the most. Aside from that, you can look up everything I have said, and it will be proven as fact. Just don't go to wikipedia, or biased sites.

    Romney Ryan 2012.
     
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    the 716 he cut were from programs that weren't working, no need to keep them there to spend money.

    Please tell me this, What are Romney detailed plans for America?
     
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