Let's get rid of PR

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Let's be honest, PR is useless or at least no one has ever been able to make a success out of it. It doesn't bring in traffic and has only paved the way for people to take advantage of it.

• As a previous leader I saw the statistics of the media accounts and they were never worth the effort.
  
• Most users don't want to associate their irl details to Sythe so people won't subscribe or pay attention to the social medias.
  
• Most people join to gain trust and hardly contribute unless you twist their arm.
  
• Some use it as a stepping stone to their scam-quit. Look at Bolt for example, acted like he had good intentions for PR and then used the rank to further his malicious intent. There's been others as well.
• All the good things PR could/would/did do, CDT already does.

Give someone access to the Youtube account and lets do fun things with that like the interviews we did way back etc. And lets make a wrap on PR.

I've seen it from all angles and I think it's clear PR is more of a detriment than a asset to Sythe.

 

Let's be honest, PR is useless or at least no one has ever been able to make a success out of it. It doesn't bring in traffic, most users don't want to associate their irl details to Sythe so people won't subscribe or pay attention to the social medias.

As a previous leader I saw the statistics of the media accounts and they were never worth the effort. Most people join to gain trust and hardly contribute unless you twist their arm. Some use it as a stepping stone to their scam-quit.

Look at Bolt for example, acted like he had good intentions for PR and then used the rank to further his malicious intent. There's been others as well.

Give someone access to the Youtube account and lets do fun things with that like the interviews we did way back etc. And lets make a wrap on PR.

I've seen it from all angles and I think it's clear PR is more of a detriment than a asset to Sythe.

Also all the good things PR could/would/did do, CDT already does.

I disagree, you’re trying to remove something because your simplistic argument are that the rank gives “trust”. People like myself and other members here work on this & colleberate together not for the gain of our business, most members don’t even runs a business here. We are here for the site not the gain of “trust” you’re implying. I personally have been working on events and I joined this team to be apart of something. I take pride in being genuine & helping the community in my spare time. PR team just needs more guidance, we need help with events, I have personally reached out to sponsors, but I don’t get a response or a sponsorship because we need more team work. Pr problem is #1 not even members & #2 we need more active members. CDT has events lined up for them, there isn’t much for them to do other than create an event when a holiday comes around or if a sponsor comes to them wanted to promote themselves they create an event for that. I am NOT talking trash about another community team, but what I am saying is they have organization and everything is set for them.

You’re really sick to try and say that bolt used his “rank” in connection to his SQ, you don’t know that, you’re making a assumption that is just petty on your end. Why wasn’t it his $1000 donor status? You sure don’t bring that up.

People following a social media account leaking (associate their irl) their irl? You must be quite scared , because unless you call yourself “Beastonsythe” you won’t be able to go down the follower list & figure out who is who.

At the end of the day, you’re just taking away a team that is just here to help. You’re shutting down others that have put time & effort into this community.

Also anyone that comments on this suggestion, I highly recommend you actually do something positive in the community, that you aren’t here to just be a downer and comment an incel response.

 

You're a 2018 member. Your points are literally irrelevant. The rank displays a level of trust whether you can admit it or not. Get a grip.

where is your reasoning? I have a higher post count than you btw, maybe you should post more since you’re from 2016? Ye not really sure what me being a 2018 member can help solidify your no base comment

 

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I disagree, you’re trying to remove something because your simplistic argument are that the rank gives “trust”. People like myself and other members here work on this & colleberate together not for the gain of our business, most members don’t even runs a business here. We are here for the site not the gain of “trust” you’re implying. I personally have been working on events and I joined this team to be apart of something. I take pride in being genuine & helping the community in my spare time. PR team just needs more guidance, we need help with events, I have personally reached out to sponsors, but I don’t get a response or a sponsorship because we need more team work. Pr problem is #1 not even members & #2 we need more active members. CDT has events lined up for them, there isn’t much for them to do other than create an event when a holiday comes around or if a sponsor comes to them wanted to promote themselves they create an event for that. I am NOT talking trash about another community team, but what I am saying is they have organization and everything is set for them.

You’re really sick to try and say that bolt used his “rank” in connection to his SQ, you don’t know that, you’re making a assumption that is just petty on your end. Why wasn’t it his $1000 donor status? You sure don’t bring that up.

People following a social media account leaking (associate their irl) their irl? You must be quite scared , because unless you call yourself “Beastonsythe” you won’t be able to go down the follower list & figure out who is who.

At the end of the day, you’re just taking away a team that is just here to help. You’re shutting down others that have put time & effort into this community.

Also anyone that comments on this suggestion, I highly recommend you actually do something positive in the community, that you aren’t here to just be a downer and comment an incel response.

Yikes, pretty hostile. You may not know, but I put more of my time and effort into PR than most people and led the team. I understand that some people have genuine intentions and I never said otherwise, I said many people have disingenuous intentions when joining PR.

You may think that better guidance may help, but the evidence suggests otherwise, we've had some of the most dedicated Sythe members lead PR and it's just not a great resource for the task it's trying to accomplish. It's been around for years and has never amounted to anything except people getting more trust than they should have. And there's no reason to believe it ever will. It's had a full roster of members before as well and still didn't help.

Saying Bolt used his rank doesn't imply there wasn't other factors that contributed. I never said that.

I also never said that social medias would link your irl name directly to your account, I'm saying it doxes you in that they know you're likely on Sythe as somebody, and that has inherent risks that people would rather avoid.

I don't know why you're calling me names and being so aggressive towards me, I think that's petty. Like I said, I've been on all angles of this and have seen it from all the perspectives.

 

@Andy Samberg you specifically said “used his rank to further his malicious intent”

 

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@Andy Samberg you specifically said “used his rank to further his malicious intent”

If I said you used soap to wash your hands does that mean you didn’t also use water? Derp, like I said, it doesn’t imply that there weren’t other factors.

 

If I said you used soap to wash your hands does that mean you didn’t also use water? Derp, like I said, it doesn’t imply that there weren’t other factors.

Extremely biased assumption, just like your assumption about the social media. Let me use your own analogy, just because I like Sephora on insta means I use their products? Quite simple minded

 

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In my time on sythe, I've never seen anything from PR aside from the funrank.

Give someone access to the Youtube account and lets do fun things with that like the interviews we did way back etc.

That sounds like a decent suggestion, although is this not the same as what CDT already do on the Bi-monthly threads?

 

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In my time on sythe, I've never seen anything from PR aside from the funrank.


That sounds like a decent suggestion, although is this not the same as what CDT already do on the Bi-monthly threads?

CDT does well, I was thinking it’d just be a different type of fun for the community, maybe give access to the CDT team to do with as they will.

 

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@BEAST I understand your frustration about not having a pink discord name and a fun rank, but the usergroup is completely unneccesary and only creates possibilities of upcoming scams.

 

Support,

I've always had a bit of my bad eye on the CDT and PR teams but it's clear that they are quite similar.

If CDT would take the tasks of the PR like social Media over to just publish the events there I think it would also be a great benefit.

 

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Extremely biased assumption, just like your assumption about the social media. Let me use your own analogy, just because I like Sephora on insta means I use their products? Quite simple minded

It's irrelevant anyway - as, regardless of how one is associated to what they like/follow on social media, the simple fact of the matter is, that the PR team (no fault of any members, more so the nature of this website and its product offering) has reeled no results, while having a very long time to do so.

It was tried and tested, proven unsuccessful, and thus should be either revamped, or put to rest. You're basically arguing for the PR team simply so you can attain a fun rank.

 

It's irrelevant anyway - as, regardless of how one is associated to what they like/follow on social media, the simple fact of the matter is that the PR team (no fault of any members, more so the nature of this website and its product offering) has reeled no results, while having a very long time to do so.

It was tried and tested, proven unsuccessful, and thus should be either revamped, or put to rest. You're basically arguing for the PR team simply so you can attain a fun rank.

Another person that makes clueless assumptions. Thanks who’s next.

 

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Another person that makes clueless assumptions. Thanks who’s next.

You're just quoting people and stating they are wrong, yet refuse to actually refute said posts with any actual evidence to the contrary?

It's like debating with a child. I say something, and you simply say, 'no, I'm right'.

If you have no capacity to discuss an issue properly, don't post.

 

Not sure why you didn’t understand what I was saying. Let me break it down for you.
I used this
Let me use your own analogy, just because I like Sephora on insta means I use their products?

For this context
“I'm saying it doxes you in that they know you're likely onSythe as somebody“

As you used
If I said you used soap to wash your hands does that mean you didn’t also use water?

For this context
Look at Bolt for example, acted like he had good intentions for PR and then used the rank to further his maliciousintent ———> further implying that he used more than just his “trusty” fun rank
@Andy Samberg

 

You're just quoting people and stating they are wrong, yet refuse to actually refute said posts with any actual evidence to the contrary?

It's like debating with a child. I say something, and you simply say, 'no, I'm right'.

If you have no capacity to discuss an issue properly, don't post.

Why would I try to argue against this ignorant comment?

You're basically arguing for the PR team simply so you can attain a fun rank.

 

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Why would I try to argue against this ignorant comment?

That's my mistake, did not see you already have it.

However, the main point of my post was the redundancy of the PR team, in line with the main narrative of this thread, which you evidently ignored.

 

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Not sure why you didn’t understand what I was saying. Let me break it down for you.
I used this
Let me use your own analogy, just because I like Sephora on insta means I use their products?

For this context
“I'm saying it doxes you in that they know you're likely onSythe as somebody“

As you used
If I said you used soap to wash your hands does that mean you didn’t also use water?

For this context
Look at Bolt for example, acted like he had good intentions for PR and then used the rank to further his maliciousintent ———> further implying that he used more than just his “trusty” fun rank
@Andy Samberg

And yet till now you havent stated even one thing the PR team has ever done. We see the CDT team at least actively trying to engage the community, i'm really curious, what has the PR team done that makes them stand out? You're not treating this suggestion fairly and simply harping on one line Andy said. Where's your justification that PR should stay?

Support this idea, just merge the two into one CDT team already. As mentioned above, what the PR needs to do, CDT already does, can do, and more.

 

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And yet till now you havent stated even one thing the PR team has ever done. We see the CDT team at least actively trying to engage the community, i'm really curious, what has the PR team done that makes them stand out? You're not treating this suggestion fairly and simply harping on one line Andy said. Where's your justification that PR should stay?

Support this idea, just merge the two into one CDT team already. As mentioned above, what the PR needs to do, CDT already does, can do, and more.

There's not a single thing to mention :shrug:

 

And yet till now you havent stated even one thing the PR team has ever done. We see the CDT team at least actively trying to engage the community, i'm really curious, what has the PR team done that makes them stand out?

Support this idea, just merge the two into one CDT team already. As mentioned above, what the PR needs to do, CDT already does, can do, and more.

I have not had any overhead since joining PR, bolt was there but didn’t really direct things.
What I’ve done since I’ve been there in my month 1/2
1. Created the twitter & tweeted a few times and experimented a little bit with hashtags to see what would grab for which market we are showcasing.
2. I’ve created an event that is under development, this event has been approved to run, now just looking for sponsors.

Once again not talking smack about CDT , the events are already aligned for them. Once a holiday comes around that’s when an event happens, it’s scheduled. They do have other events that are sponsored, which are usually just a mini game & the sponsor reaches out to them to promote themlsevs and host the event.

What else would you like to know