Islam.

[xh1tman3]

Hi everyone, I am curious to see what all of you guys think of Islam. Also, do you have any questions about it?

I know that there is a huge sense of ambiguity surrounding this religion, and many people do not fully understand it.

I'd like to see your comments on this religion, and if you have questions I will do my best to answer them.

Thanks

 

[mtn dew]

Have you converted to Islam and became a muslim already?

 

[xh1tman3]

I didn't convert. I was born into the religion

 

[Nimla]

Why do muslims not eat pork? I'm muslim and im not religious ,so thats why im asking.

In the bible, they also forbid pork, but i guess people didnt listen over there lol.

 

[mtn dew]

I didn't convert. I was born into the religion

Oh, so you follow the Quran?

 

[xh1tman3]

Nimla, i'll start off with a verse from the Quran:

" Let him find out which is the best food
( to be had ) ... Eat of the best foods We
have provided for you . "

( Holy Qur'an 18:19;7:160 )


It is scientifically proven that the Pig causes these diseases: TRICHINELLA SPIRATIS, TAENIA SOLIUM, ROUND WORMS, HOOK WORMS, SCHITOSOMA JAPONICUM, and plenty of other diseases.

Not only this, but the Pig is also the dirtiest of the domestical animals. Also, it is not good for general health.

I am not trying to bash anyone that eats pork, but the reason the Quran prohibits it is because of all of these things.


Also, the Quran and Bible are very similar. However, due to thousands of different translations and interpretations of the Bible, it has lost a lot of its original meaning.

The Quran is still 100% preserved in the Arabic form.



edit: Mtn Dew, i do use the Quran as a reference, but i am no scholar lol.

 

[Joker91]

I view it the same as any other religion; A way to control the masses and mostly, if not all, fictional. Unlike a lot of the other religions though, I also see it as a fairly violent religion. That being said, I'm American (explains the violence bit, yes I know I'm biased, but I also seem to have nothing but bad experiences with those of that population where I live as well) and I generally consider myself an Agnostic Theist, so I have major gripes towards all religions.

 

[Divine_God]

Why is it abused to indoctrinate sharia law and to abuse women / homosexual people?

Why are many people who are raised under the Quran so wiling to accept what a book says without question?

Why does it clearly state to kill non believers?

Why in recent years is Islam invading Europe and taking over local governments to enforce the exact words of the Quran?

 

[blazinfasstt]

can we please only have arguments in this forum please?

seriously, this belongs in the general section.

this section is for arguments and evidence backing them up, not about asking incredibly open ended questions.

 

[that tank kid]

I dislike how people choose to follow the religion in western countries that have a small population of islam / muslims, and try to make the country change it's rules to suit them.
Move to Europe/USA/Australia (western countries), follow the rules, if you don't eat pork, don't eat it, take the cloths of your face so people can see who you are.

Just imagine if a christian moved to Pakistan and started shoving the bible in their face, I'd dare say they would get shot.

 

[blazinfasstt]

I dislike how people choose to follow the religion in western countries that have a small population of islam / muslims, and try to make the country change it's rules to suit them.

Just imagine if a christian moved to Pakistan and started shoving the bible in their face, I'd dare say they would get shot.

have you ever heard of missionaries?
jesus, dont be a hypocrite

 

[that tank kid]

have you ever heard of missionaries?
jesus, dont be a hypocrite

I'm an atheist I don't mind any religions but islam really grinds my gears.

Also, the Quran and Bible are very similar. However, due to thousands of different translations and interpretations of the Bible, it has lost a lot of its original meaning.

The Quran is still 100% preserved in the Arabic form.

Especially quotes like this...

Mate how do you know that the quran isn't a total load of horse shit?

 

[alawiicube]

I find Islam more a lifestyle then a religion.
Islam is build on love,peace and respect.
Sadly there is people that think Islam is a violence religion, If you are one of them then please.. take some time and do some research.

@up

If you read the Holy Quran, You will understand and see very clearly that it says that no one are allowed to kill or punish a person.

And about the questions, Again if you read it you will find every answer you need, I guess thats why its a Holy book.

Peace

 

[alawiicube]

I'm an atheist I don't mind any religions but islam really grinds my gears.

Also, the Quran and Bible are very similar. However, due to thousands of different translations and interpretations of the Bible, it has lost a lot of its original meaning.

The Quran is still 100% preserved in the Arabic form.

Especially quotes like this...

Mate how do you know that the quran isn't a total load of horse shit?

The holy Quran is not just loaded with rules, Its loaded with advice and wisdom.It is difficult and not my job to persuade you to read the Quran, but try to read it in english. I promise you that you will understand why its a Holy book and that its not loaded with 'horse shit' MATE. :noworry:

 

[Divine_God]

The holy Quran is not just loaded with rules, Its loaded with advice and wisdom.It is difficult and not my job to persuade you to read the Quran, but try to read it in english. I promise you that you will understand why its a Holy book and that its not loaded with 'horse shit' MATE. :noworry:

Qur'an:8:7 "Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: 'Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"
Qur'an:8:12 "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: 'I am with you. Give firmness to the Believers. I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.'"
Qur'an:8:15 "Believers, when you meet unbelieving infidels in battle while you are marching for war, never turn your backs to them. If any turns his back on such a day, unless it be in a stratagem of war, a maneuver to rally his side, he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell, an evil refuge!"
Qur'an:8:39 "So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam."

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)

"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)

"If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches..." (Surah 3:156-)


I think you get the point.

You can't say the Quran is a book of peace when it explicitly says kill all non believers of islam, or to kill everyone untill Islam is the only religion.

 

[blazinfasstt]

Qur'an:8:7 "Allah wished to confirm the truth by His words: 'Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"
Qur'an:8:12 "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: 'I am with you. Give firmness to the Believers. I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.'"
Qur'an:8:15 "Believers, when you meet unbelieving infidels in battle while you are marching for war, never turn your backs to them. If any turns his back on such a day, unless it be in a stratagem of war, a maneuver to rally his side, he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell, an evil refuge!"
Qur'an:8:39 "So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam."

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)

"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)

"If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches..." (Surah 3:156-)


I think you get the point.

You can't say the Quran is a book of peace when it explicitly says kill all non believers of islam, or to kill everyone untill Islam is the only religion.

please search before going off on a tangent that has been covered before

http://sythe.org/showthread.php?t=1178906

 

[Divine_God]

Oh, im sorry for responding to someone in this thread.


I'm not here to debate a banning of it, im simply arguing with whoever is saying it's a religion of peace on the discussion of islam.

 

[that tank kid]

The holy Quran is not just loaded with rules, Its loaded with advice and wisdom.It is difficult and not my job to persuade you to read the Quran, but try to read it in english. I promise you that you will understand why its a Holy book and that its not loaded with 'horse shit' MATE. :noworry:

$100 says your a Muslim.

I just wouldn't mind them if they didn't try force the world to think the way they do.

The statement saying the bible is a lie, was just another reason why I dislike the religion.

How many religions are there? And they all think they are right? It's just not possible.

If it wasn't for religion we might actually have a normal peaceful world..

 

[rstrader1471]

Qur'an:8:7 "Allah wishend to confirm the truth by His words: 'Wipe the infidels out to the last.'"
Qur'an:8:12 "Your Lord inspired the angels with the message: 'I am with you. Give firmness to the Believers. I will terrorize the unbelievers. Therefore smite them on their necks and every joint and incapacitate them. Strike off their heads and cut off each of their fingers and toes.'"
Qur'an:8:15 "Believers, when you meet unbelieving infidels in battle while you are marching for war, never turn your backs to them. If any turns his back on such a day, unless it be in a stratagem of war, a maneuver to rally his side, he draws on himself the wrath of Allah, and his abode is Hell, an evil refuge!"
Qur'an:8:39 "So, fight them till all opposition ends and the only religion is Islam."

"Believers, do not make friends with any but your own people...They desire nothing but your ruin....You believe in the entire Book...When they meet you they say: 'We, too, are believers.' But when alone, they bite their finger-tips with rage." (Surah 3:118, 119)

"Seek out your enemies relentlessly." (Surah 4:103-)

"If you should die or be slain in the cause of God, His forgiveness and His mercy would surely be better than all the riches..." (Surah 3:156-)


I think you get the point.

You can't say the Quran is a book of peace when it explicitly says kill all non believers of islam, or to kill everyone untill Islam is the only religion.

What website was this Taken off? Bullshit crap.com? How about giving me the name of this site and ill respond to it. Don't make friends with unbelievers? Bullshit, doesn't say thst in the Quraan, why would Muslims kill unbelievers? If this is so true, why didn't our prophet get all those unbelievers killed who threw stones at him when he walked through a village? Why did was he so nice and polite to the disbelievers which in itself got many more followers? So, with so many unbelievers converting theses days, why kill them. Those quotes are obviously from the worst site you could find them.

 

[Greggy]

It is a religion.
That's how I view it, a religion.