Islam vs. Leftist Multiculturalism

Would I defend the civil rights of racists..? would you..?

Last I checked neonazis still have the right to free speech and every other constitutional right.

Do you not agree with that? Or should they just be lynched in the street?

As a leftist myself and a firm believer in human rights, yes, everyone has the right to free speech, but the way they exercise that right demonstrates holes in how we think as a society. For instance, I reserve the right myself to be disgusted and/or hate Neonazis for their beliefs. As such, I also reserve the right to disagree entirely with the sexism in Islam and fail to see how someone can be anti-sexist and pro-Islam at once. The following comparison is fairly fallacious, but it gets my point across: this is the equivalent of someone who is pro-Judaism but also pro-Nazi. It's a contradiction.

The solution is education. I don't want lynching. That's obviously drastic. I find that my fellow leftists are so quick to defend groups that are attacked by the right-wing that they fail to see why they are being attacked by the right-wing. I would like that people who are members of western society are educated on the rights and wrongs of prevalent groups in society in an effort to reduce the negativity and hatred that we're experiencing today. That education begins with discussions like this thread. If you leave this thread understanding my point, then I've done my part.

 

[OrangeCounty]

As a leftist myself and a firm believer in human rights, yes, everyone has the right to free speech, but the way they exercise that right demonstrates holes in how we think as a society. For instance, I reserve the right myself to be disgusted and/or hate Neonazis for their beliefs. As such, I also reserve the right to disagree entirely with the sexism in Islam and fail to see how someone can be anti-sexist and pro-Islam at once. The following comparison is fairly fallacious, but it gets my point across: this is the equivalent of someone who is pro-Judaism but also pro-Nazi. It's a contradiction.

The solution is education. I don't want lynching. That's obviously drastic. I find that my fellow leftists are so quick to defend groups that are attacked by the right-wing that they fail to see why they are being attacked by the right-wing. I would like that people who are members of western society are educated on the rights and wrongs of prevalent groups in society in an effort to reduce the negativity and hatred that we're experiencing today. That education begins with discussions like this thread. If you leave this thread understanding my point, then I've done my part.

Look man, the false equivalency of your nazi/Judaism comparison should be self apparent.

Liberals CAN disagree with Islam as a doctrine but agree with protecting the Muslim community and advocating for equal protection of all of their rights.

What you're trying to do is say, "no no no, I'm not talking about their civil rights".

The left has only argued for their equal protection- otherwise you're saying that all leftists want to become practitioners of Islam or are already Muslim.

Again. You aren't proving your point by sidestepping my logic.

 

[Tanged]

Look man, the false equivalency of your nazi/Judaism comparison should be self apparent.

Liberals CAN disagree with Islam as a doctrine but agree with protecting the Muslim community and advocating for equal protection of all of their rights.

What you're trying to do is say, "no no no, I'm not talking about their civil rights".

The left has only argued for their equal protection- otherwise you're saying that all leftists want to become practitioners of Islam or are already Muslim.

Again. You aren't proving your point by sidestepping my logic.

Liberals CAN disagree with NeoNazi Belief as a doctrine but agree with protecting the Nazi community and advocating for equal protection of all of their rights.

I would like you to explain how one belief is more scared then another?

You have no logic.

Nazis are oppressed go to new york and try to be treated kindly while wearing a swastika .. lol

 

Look man, the false equivalency of your nazi/Judaism comparison should be self apparent.

Liberals CAN disagree with Islam as a doctrine but agree with protecting the Muslim community and advocating for equal protection of all of their rights.

What you're trying to do is say, "no no no, I'm not talking about their civil rights".

The left has only argued for their equal protection- otherwise you're saying that all leftists want to become practitioners of Islam or are already Muslim.

Again. You aren't proving your point by sidestepping my logic.

Is it morally correct in your paradigm to defend an entire group's alleged right to be sexist? My point has already been proven on page 1 by the way. I've presented sourced evidence to my claims.

If I'm understanding you properly, you're saying that Muslims have the right to do their thing regardless of sexism, and that you will defend that right though not necessarily Islam itself. If so, then we're (more or less) on the same page and you've been making a point that is irrelevant to the topic at hand. To be clear, I am referring to those who defend Islam and claim there is nothing wrong with it, but these same people are also anti-sexist. Those people are not a minority within the left. They are in fact a majority and thus the source of my confusion.

also if we're jumping into argument structure then pls watch your slippery slopes and straw men

 

[Tanged]

Is it morally correct in your paradigm to defend an entire group's alleged right to be sexist? My point has already been proven on page 1 by the way. I've presented sourced evidence to my claims.

If I'm understanding you properly, you're saying that Muslims have the right to do their thing regardless of sexism, and that you will defend that right though not necessarily Islam itself. If so, then we're (more or less) on the same page and you've been making a point that is irrelevant to the topic at hand. To be clear, I am referring to those who defend Islam and claim there is nothing wrong with it, but these same people are also anti-sexist. Those people are not a minority within the left. They are in fact a majority and thus the source of my confusion.

also if we're jumping into argument structure then pls watch your slippery slopes and straw men

I may be more aggressive then you are but I agree with you completely.

 

[OrangeCounty]

Is it morally correct in your paradigm to defend an entire group's alleged right to be sexist? My point has already been proven on page 1 by the way. I've presented sourced evidence to my claims.

If I'm understanding you properly, you're saying that Muslims have the right to do their thing regardless of sexism, and that you will defend that right though not necessarily Islam itself. If so, then we're (more or less) on the same page and you've been making a point that is irrelevant to the topic at hand. To be clear, I am referring to those who defend Islam and claim there is nothing wrong with it, but these same people are also anti-sexist. Those people are not a minority within the left. They are in fact a majority and thus the source of my confusion.

also if we're jumping into argument structure then pls watch your slippery slopes and straw men

It isn't an "alleged" right. It IS a right. Being sexist is not a crime- thus they have that right.

 

[OrangeCounty]

I may be more aggressive then you are but I agree with you completely.

Hahahahahaha. Yeah. Aggressive. Moron

 

[Tanged]

It isn't an "alleged" right. It IS a right. Being sexist is not a crime- thus they have that right.

Actually being sexist might not being a crime but promoting sexism and gender based discrimination is a crime.

Also would like to point out its nice how you ignore my points and only go for insults since you are clearly retarded and incapable of forming a argument .

 

[OrangeCounty]

Actually being sexist might not being a crime but promoting sexism and gender based discrimination is a crime.

Also would like to point out its nice how you ignore my points and only go for insults since you are clearly retarded and incapable of forming a argument .

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[Tanged]

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Tries to play off like he is some sort of superior being with every comment you only display how irrational and indoctrinated you are.

 

[OrangeCounty]

Tries to play off like he is some sort of superior being with every comment you only display how irrational and indoctrinated you are.

I've just been loling since you lost your cool. Keep this going, I like when people try to be keyboard savages on an anonymous forum. The reality is you probably live in your aunts basement somewhere in the Midwest.

 

[Tanged]

I've just been loling since you lost your cool. Keep this going, I like when people try to be keyboard savages on an anonymous forum. The reality is you probably live in your aunts basement somewhere in the Midwest.

Was not privileged enough to have a aunt or any living family and if 100 feet in the air can be called a basement fine . Also not a keyboard savage in anyway you lost so now your pretending you are some sort of troll inorder to gain you self respect back. It is a normal tactic done when you have lost to pretend that you were not trying.

 

[OrangeCounty]

Was not privileged enough to have a aunt or any living family and if 100 feet in the air can be called a basement fine . Also not a keyboard savage in anyway you lost so now your pretending you are some sort of troll inorder to gain you self respect back. It is a normal tactic done when you have lost to pretend that you were not trying.

You live in a treehouse?

 

[Tanged]

You live in a treehouse?

I am flatted by your belief that I could construct a 100 foot high tree house but none the less I sadly do not have the required skills. I live in a condo.

 

[OrangeCounty]

I am flatted by your belief that I could construct a 100 foot high tree house but none the less I sadly do not have the required skills. I live in a condo.

I call bullshit. Islamist blew up your place and now you're bitter because you live in a treehouse

 

[Tanged]

I call bullshit. Islamist blew up your place and now you're bitter because you live in a treehouse

Well first I would have to find a 100 foot tree to build the house on. To build a 100 foot high tree house would cost more then my condo most likely.

 

[OrangeCounty]

 

[Tanged]

What about wifi and electric and running water? also no way I am climbing 200 feet everyday. I need a elevator and air conditioning also. We have to find a tree that can support the weight of everything also.

 

[Clinton4Jail]

Mohamed was a sex addict & he called black people raisin heads. I am not being racist you will find this in the Quran.

 

[YoungestPlayer]

Mohamed was a sex addict & he called black people raisin heads. I am not being racist you will find this in the Quran.

you're idiot islam kills racism