How Do we know what they tell us is true?

[youcantseeme]

Basically ive been reading alot lately and have started thinking that everything that we hear on television and in newspapers, are a load of bullshit.

Yes pretty much everything.

Why?

Because the earth is growing substantially.. and what would happen if the earth got that overcrowded?

It would affect the people in power.

So my thinking has become to the point where i think the goverments or some greater power is controlling everything you read eat and see everyday.

Why is their no cures to cancer yet?

Do they have cures and not want us to know FOR POPULATION CONTROL?

Why does the news tell us to eat certain foods, is it to infect us to control the life and death of people?

Yes i know it might sound a load of bollocks.

Where did cancer start? where did tuberculosis start (TB)??? where did HIV start?

Where are all these infections coming from? Are they made in labS?

This is my big question is there people in high power higher then all the goverments?

Also another point... if tobacco is that harmful why do they sell it?

Where did all these new 'highs' come from?

Why is Cannabis illegal in most countries? Yet it is suitable to cure most cures if used in the right ways. it has been found in amsterdam to be medically affective.

Are 'we' as humans a minority figure in the universe? are there other things out their?

How can 1 transform from a ape to human? ->> if its evolution how the fuck arent there things out here today that are new types of evolution>?


Everything in modern day technology is progressing fast... very fast. in my opinion why is all this technology available? because everything you do today can be read back .. everything can be tracked. You might as well have the CIA living in your house.

Also why is everything made to break?

Everything in your house today that is their will not last a 'lifetime' why because of money.

Everything you use is destined to break? why so the companies can sell more of that item.. they can make more money and repeat the process..

People can create things that will last for a 'lifetime' or 'forever' but why would one want to do that?

Because it would prevent you ever having to buy a product of them again.
if a car lasted a lifetime. people would only own 1 car.
But in my opinion if things was made to last a lifetime their would be less waste/ less things used. No need to use power to recycle products everything in life would be efficient.

But no Everything is MONEY.

How did we become to be living? if we look at the time schedule we are currently is 2013..

yes 2013 i know there is ad and bc.

But 2013 isnt much..

Considering if a average human of today can live over 100 that means there was only 20 lifetimes of your family to 'christs' time.

how long as the earth got left in it?



Please take a look at all these crazy thoughts...

And answer any

 

I really don't like some of the points you've brought up in this. Not because I think they are true and affect are lives but because they are poorly thought out. I'll now post why to back up my points unlike you did with yours.

Cancer has always existed but as the technology to increase the life span of humans has now made cancer more prominent in our lives. As we increase in age our cells are constantly going through mitosis (the reproduction and repair of cells). This is done when DNA is copied and used to create replicas of our cells. As we age this DNA data can be lost or damaged. This can cause us to create a mutation. Mutations can also occur from several other factors such as radiation making them a carcinogen but that's another topic. These mutations in some cases will be harmless but in other may be cancerous. The cancerous mutations in some cases can more rapidly go through mitosis than regular healthy cells and this is why cancer now occurs. It wasn't created in a lab it is now just more prominent in our lives. As for a cure for cancer my guess is as good as yours if we have one.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by eat certain foods? I've never seen "eat this food on the news". As far as dieting goes take a look at the way body stores fat and protein this will most likely answer your questions on why we shouldn't fast food and why we should eat healthier alternatives.

The new "highs" I think you're referring to are drugs I'm assuming. Some of these were results of the abuse of drugs that have come with technology. An example of this is oxies these were initially created to help with severe pain but now are abused. As for the rest like heroin ect they've come with technology and are mostly a synthetic substance deriving from the opium plant.

As far as humans being minorities in the universe I agree. With billions of planets out there, there MUST be other life forms out there and probably in greater numbers than humans.

Evolution is not like evolving in pokemon you don't just reach a certain level bam you're a raichu. It's a slow process used to adapt to the conditions you encounter. Humans have evolved at a very slow rate while other animals evolve much quicker than humans. An example of animals that evolve much quicker are moths. Some moths of the same species have evolved adaptations to blend into their surroundings depending where they are living. Note this is not like a lizard changing colors as they move. This is certain moths being born to blend into trees while other moths of the same species are more at home blending in with the grassy surroundings of other non-bark plants. So long story short everything is evolving incredibly slowly.

Things break because of physics. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed therefore when something is in motion unless other forces act on it, it would remain in motion forever. This does not occur because other forces do act on it. Even in a vacuum where no air resistance is presence some of the kinetic energy is transferred into thermal energy (heat). This in even ideal conditions means eventually it would break after constant wear. This occurs even quicker in our regular lives because of the corrosive substances we encounter everyday. Very few things have the ideal pH of 7 are slowly being decayed at a rate not even measurable but it is occurring. This combined with the air resistance and friction when the object is moving means that everything at some point will break.

I agree with what you said about money it does make the world go round but I do not think they go to the extremes you believe they do just to obtain it.

 

[youcantseeme]

I really don't like some of the points you've brought up in this. Not because I think they are true and affect are lives but because they are poorly thought out. I'll now post why to back up my points unlike you did with yours.

Cancer has always existed but as the technology to increase the life span of humans has now made cancer more prominent in our lives. As we increase in age our cells are constantly going through mitosis (the reproduction and repair of cells). This is done when DNA is copied and used to create replicas of our cells. As we age this DNA data can be lost or damaged. This can cause us to create a mutation. Mutations can also occur from several other factors such as radiation making them a carcinogen but that's another topic. These mutations in some cases will be harmless but in other may be cancerous. The cancerous mutations in some cases can more rapidly go through mitosis than regular healthy cells and this is why cancer now occurs. It wasn't created in a lab it is now just more prominent in our lives. As for a cure for cancer my guess is as good as yours if we have one.

I'm not exactly sure what you mean by eat certain foods? I've never seen "eat this food on the news". As far as dieting goes take a look at the way body stores fat and protein this will most likely answer your questions on why we shouldn't fast food and why we should eat healthier alternatives.

The new "highs" I think you're referring to are drugs I'm assuming. Some of these were results of the abuse of drugs that have come with technology. An example of this is oxies these were initially created to help with severe pain but now are abused. As for the rest like heroin ect they've come with technology and are mostly a synthetic substance deriving from the opium plant.

As far as humans being minorities in the universe I agree. With billions of planets out there, there MUST be other life forms out there and probably in greater numbers than humans.

Evolution is not like evolving in pokemon you don't just reach a certain level bam you're a raichu. It's a slow process used to adapt to the conditions you encounter. Humans have evolved at a very slow rate while other animals evolve much quicker than humans. An example of animals that evolve much quicker are moths. Some moths of the same species have evolved adaptations to blend into their surroundings depending where they are living. Note this is not like a lizard changing colors as they move. This is certain moths being born to blend into trees while other moths of the same species are more at home blending in with the grassy surroundings of other non-bark plants. So long story short everything is evolving incredibly slowly.

Things break because of physics. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed therefore when something is in motion unless other forces act on it, it would remain in motion forever. This does not occur because other forces do act on it. Even in a vacuum where no air resistance is presence some of the kinetic energy is transferred into thermal energy (heat). This in even ideal conditions means eventually it would break after constant wear. This occurs even quicker in our regular lives because of the corrosive substances we encounter everyday. Very few things have the ideal pH of 7 are slowly being decayed at a rate not even measurable but it is occurring. This combined with the air resistance and friction when the object is moving means that everything at some point will break.

I agree with what you said about money it does make the world go round but I do not think they go to the extremes you believe they do just to obtain it.

Thank you for answering some of my long term queries in my brain!
And i see logic to most of what you have said.

thanks again

 

Thank you for answering some of my long term queries in my brain!
And i see logic to most of what you have said.

thanks again

As for marijuana its slowly being legalized as it should be. Personally I do not use it but I think it's comparable to tobacco. Also sorry for being a tad harsh just realized you were questioning not making theories.

 

[Noam]

As for cancer, HIV, AIDS, etc..
I believe the government is behind a lot of diseases and disasters around the world. It's true, we're becoming over populated and they need some way to reassure the way of human survival even if it means killing their own people, which in a way I agree with, there are WAY too many people living on this earth, we're already going through so many things wrong, the earth won't be here for too much longer.

Let me find my old HIV proof

Assuming the government was the cause behind HIV, and that it was their tool to reduce the human population, then how can you explain:

But how is it foolish? It is a Nationwide form of population control that the Government can get away with. About 3 million people die a year from HIV or Aids, that's a solid 0.00045% of the population dying every year just from this disease. The number of deaths also increase as more people become infected.

A solid 0.00045% every year? seriously?
At the rate of 3 million every year, it will take 2163 years to reach 500 million people
At the rate of 0.00045% of the general population each year, it would take 586101 years to reach 500 million people

Here are the python scripts demonstrating it:

x = 6988829030
y = 0
while x > 500000000:
    xper = 0.0000045 * x
    x -= xper
    y += 1

print (y)

x = 6988829030
y = 0
while x > 500000000:
    x -= 3000000
    y += 1

print (y)

Do you think the government would plan for that period of time?
In fact, after accounting for current population growth (percentages) it would take 586103 years to reach 500 million people, and accounting for numerical growth, my computer is freezing just from calculating it. I will edit this post with the final result later on.
EDIT: Current estimates show that the human population will only even begin to decline around 9333333333333 years.
EDIT 2: New estimates, after about 30 minutes of calculations, calculated every 1000000000000000000000 years (that's 21 zeros), show that the new minimum estimate is 10^50 (that's 50 zeroes)
EDIT 3: Got a final average answer. I had to calculate in leaps of 10^308. The total amount of time it would take for HIV to reduce the population to 500 million, assuming 0.00045% total population dies from HIV annually, and the human race gives birth to 42 million people every year is 314497306350000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Years. the total age of the universe is only about 14000000000.
This calculation has an amazingly high amount of error. I have no Idea how much, but I would say as much as 50-80%

x = 6988829030
y = 0
while x > 500000000:
    xgroper = 42000000
    xper = 0.0000045 * x
    x += xgroper
    x -= xper
    y += 1

print (y)

x = 6988829030
y = 0
while x > 500000000:
    xgroper = 0.012*x
    xper = 0.0000045 * x
    x += xgroper
    x -= xper
    y += 1

print (y)

So once again, why do you think the government would plan for 500000 years into the future - a time at which we will no longer qualify as homo-sapient any more, but something else?

Not to mention it's actually possible to live with AIDS and I know of a few folks who have almost cured it.

 

[Recidivism]

I do not approve of drugs becoming legal in any sense, I'm strongly against them + drinking. It's the same as I REFUSE to go to the doctors or hospital in case someone has some horrible disease and I catch it.

Then you gotta ban caffine (a drug)


Or every single form of medicine we have (all drugs)

 

[youcantseeme]

Let me find my old HIV proof

Assuming the government was the cause behind HIV, and that it was their tool to reduce the human population, then how can you explain:



A solid 0.00045% every year? seriously?
At the rate of 3 million every year, it will take 2163 years to reach 500 million people
At the rate of 0.00045% of the general population each year, it would take 586101 years to reach 500 million people

Here are the python scripts demonstrating it:

x = 6988829030
y = 0
while x > 500000000:
    xper = 0.0000045 * x
    x -= xper
    y += 1

print (y)

x = 6988829030
y = 0
while x > 500000000:
    x -= 3000000
    y += 1

print (y)

Do you think the government would plan for that period of time?
In fact, after accounting for current population growth (percentages) it would take 586103 years to reach 500 million people, and accounting for numerical growth, my computer is freezing just from calculating it. I will edit this post with the final result later on.
EDIT: Current estimates show that the human population will only even begin to decline around 9333333333333 years.
EDIT 2: New estimates, after about 30 minutes of calculations, calculated every 1000000000000000000000 years (that's 21 zeros), show that the new minimum estimate is 10^50 (that's 50 zeroes)
EDIT 3: Got a final average answer. I had to calculate in leaps of 10^308. The total amount of time it would take for HIV to reduce the population to 500 million, assuming 0.00045% total population dies from HIV annually, and the human race gives birth to 42 million people every year is 314497306350000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Years. the total age of the universe is only about 14000000000.
This calculation has an amazingly high amount of error. I have no Idea how much, but I would say as much as 50-80%

x = 6988829030
y = 0
while x > 500000000:
    xgroper = 42000000
    xper = 0.0000045 * x
    x += xgroper
    x -= xper
    y += 1

print (y)

x = 6988829030
y = 0
while x > 500000000:
    xgroper = 0.012*x
    xper = 0.0000045 * x
    x += xgroper
    x -= xper
    y += 1

print (y)

So once again, why do you think the government would plan for 500000 years into the future - a time at which we will no longer qualify as homo-sapient any more, but something else?

Not to mention it's actually possible to live with AIDS and I know of a few folks who have almost cured it.

yes but all these diseases start from something.
And obviously its not intended to kill 100's of millions of people ?
Im against most drugs although some illegal drugs arent as bad as drugs you can get legally.

In my opinion Tobacco is worse than cannabis.
But in most cases where cannabis is sought as a bad drug is when it is used with tobacco.

But all in all i think their is behind the scenes things happening everyday that you will not find out in your lifetime. im not suggesting that everything is bad.
But you do not get told everything? why so many secrets?

And my BIG QUESTION of the day....

What is in Area 51 i know they say its used for weapon testing but what is in there? why is their extremely strict laws if its used only for weapon testing etC??[

 

[woodcut ox]

For most the points they where tl:dr, but the one that caught my eye was the one where The wealthy control more then the government.

All I got to say is look at who some of our congressman and political leaders are married to. John Kerry is married into the Heinz family. Look at all the money that goes to waste in those 500 page bills. Companies get free money for doing nothing, most of them are campaign contributors or family friends.

Nothing seems as it appears really, Why do you think they are starting to try and control more and more aspects of our lives?

 

[b8rnt]

i completely agree on some of these questions, and i believe that there is a lot going on that the government has going on that they do not tell us of, there has to be. And to be honest i even believe that 9/11 and Boston bombing were staged from the government.

 

[b8rnt]

And my BIG QUESTION of the day....

What is in Area 51 i know they say its used for weapon testing but what is in there? why is their extremely strict laws if its used only for weapon testing etC??[

I question this myself, I always watch ancient aliens and what not on history channel and i believe 100% that there is stuff inside area 51 to do with that.
I once watched this one episode about the men in black and i made my dad watch it with me at the end of the episode he believed.

 

[Suburban Gangsta]

TBH, I believe there is power from the government that limits productivity of better life, but, at a certain point, they can't full stop an operation. They can, of course, slow it down drastically, but at a certain point theres too many "rebels" and people in the world to be able to stop everyones actions.

 

[Plznate]

Thinks that everything in modern society that is harmful to human life is orchestrated by some powerful group:

fails to make the realization that people in general are living WAY longer then we ever used to.

-.-

 

[Xier0]

TBH, I believe there is power from the government that limits productivity of better life, but, at a certain point, they can't full stop an operation. They can, of course, slow it down drastically, but at a certain point theres too many "rebels" and people in the world to be able to stop everyones actions.

There are too many existing, natural problems in the world that I hardly think that there is a group of people whose job is to oppress another group of people. If this was actually happening, in the day of mass information, there would be more solid proof than, say, claims of Illuminati or whatnot.

 

[DymeADuzin]

Media will always be biased. This is because money is a symbolism of power. So long as you have money, you have something that everyone in the world seeks. And with that, you have the ability to manipulate your environment in magnitude parallel to the amount of money you have. The two main drives that an adult human being act on, are sex, and money, in that order. And it takes money to gratify the first drive; you can take that statement however you wish. My point is, if you have money, you have the ability to influence other human beings. Through the logic of human nature and this history of mankind (and there are exceptions, of course, but not many) when a person (or entity consisting of many persons) becomes wealthy enough to separate themselves from the vast majority of the population, their objectives reform to benefit their own well being, and not the classes below them. It is ludicrous and quite frankly moronic to believe that in todays society, the 1% (the extremely wealthy) don't play some role in influencing what the average person sees on television. We live in a world today that is controlled by a common desire, and thusly, people will be swayed and manipulated like sheep to contort to the ideals of the highest class. Populations control has nothing to do with it, greed and personal well-being of the rich is what pulls on the strings of the general population.

 

[Suburban Gangsta]

There are too many existing, natural problems in the world that I hardly think that there is a group of people whose job is to oppress another group of people. If this was actually happening, in the day of mass information, there would be more solid proof than, say, claims of Illuminati or whatnot.

I don't see what you stated has much to do with what I said? The government can stop a large amount of people by simply creating a law, whether it's logical or not. Many people will follow the law, many will also not follow it. But, those who will follow the law proves my point that it will slow down an operation cause those who follow the law is just that much less people participating with finding an end to a fiasco.

 

[Suburban Gangsta]

You've gone into full-blown paranoia.