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mmkay soooo the bible tells that "god" created everything 6,000 years ago, then why is it that carbon dating shows materials millions of years old, even billions "4.4-billion-year-old zircon crystal" on earth, doesn't that mean that the earth alone is AT LEAST 4.4 billion years old? sooo that is just about 100% proof that "god" did not create earth, and even if he did why would the bible "most holy and truthful of all books" have a flaw THAT BIG in it? why would "god" lie? if you can answer me this using actual facts, I will be truly amazed.
 
I'm fairly sure no one answered this question, because it is too broad and probably not at the intellectual level meant for this forum.

but everyone deserves an adequate level of understanding.

To say the least,

Religion is interpretation of ones path to a higher being.
Christianity, is one of those interpreted paths.
With that being said, each religion is going to have it's flaws, unless you BELIEVE otherwise.


Belief and faith go hand in hand.
One can not have faith without belief, true?


The Bible is Christianity's Holy Book.
If you believe that Christianity is 100% true, then the world is 6,000 years old as you stated.
Modern science disproves that, does that make Christianity false?

Yes and no.

Yes in the sense that the world is actually billions of years old, and no in the sense that other factors of the religion may hold true.

but this isn't a religious debate, I apologize.
 
Religion acts as a metanarrative and those who choose to follow it project their values and personal needs onto a God who fulfils it for them.
 
Tyro said:
1: Carbon does not date objects from billions of years ago.
2: Cite your passage on the "6000 years" bit, please.
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There is no specific verse in the bible that states that the world is 6,000 years old. Nonetheless it is widely believed by Christians that this statement is true (that the earth is around 6,000 years old.

The Bible provides a complete genealogy from Adam to Jesus. You can go through the genealogies and add up the years. You'll get a total that is just over 4,000 years. Add the 2,000 years since the time of Jesus and you get just over 6,000 years since God created everything.
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To be honest I don't think that these scientific facts should influence what religion you think is best, or most accurate. Personally I think that you should pick whatever religion you like best, and believe in even though science may prove it wrong. Basically what I'm trying to say is that you can still be a christian(or any other religion) whether or not you believe in the science behind it is true or not.
 
1. Carbon dating could be incorrect, and we could be way off on our dating.

2. Christianity is only one interpretation of what happened in the past, are you specifically attacking Christianity or all religion in general?

3. Where did you get the idea that he created Earth 6k years ago?
 
Another one of these threads
 
Please cite where you got your 6,000 years from.
 
Ikr said:
100% honest, I believe god created everything, whether it is proven wrong or not.
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The purpose of the SfA forum is to intelligently argue your views with others; merely stating your beliefs without giving reasonable evidence as to why you hold such a position does not suffice.

Weasel2013 said:
http://www.amnh.org/education/resources/rfl/web/essaybooks/earth/cs_zircon_chronolgy.html

What the hell are you talking about?

This is only one example from "i'm feeling lucky" on Google, there are countless others.
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zircon ≠ carbon

Carbon-14 has a half-life too short to be accurate on anything old then 100,000 years.

Tyro said:
What the hell are you talking about?

Did you even read that article? The majority isn't about carbon dating, and the part that focuses on it discredits it as a source of dating past 70,000 years. There's a huge difference between zircon and potassium and carbon dating.

At any rate, I'm not questioning the fact that the earth is older than 6000 years, I was merely saying they're not using carbon dating (and zircon dating is, in my opinion, suspicious, to say the least).



That explains the age of what Christians view as mankind after Adam's decent to mortality. That doesn't say anything about the age of the Earth.
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The entire universe was, according to the canonical Christian scripture, created in the six days proceeding the creation of Adam.

@The OP: Don't you think a more appropriate title for this thread would be The Christian God created everything?, since you present no evidence against the deistic god of Paine or Voltaire?
 
Everyone realises God isnt real, it was created for constructive power to teach good and moral values then was abused as it could be used as a weapon of fear and control....The Big Bang has been proven.

Nothing = Negative and Postive Masses, instantly being created and destroyed, through the whole amount of time, time has exisited, somethin wrong happened, and BANG the negative and positive masses pulled apart...blah blah
 
It is honestly pointless to try and prove God doesn't exist. The reason is that every single religion relies on Faith. "Faith is the confident belief or trust in a person, idea, or thing that is not based on proof". So you can bring up all the facts that you can to disprove a belief of a religious person, but he/she won't listen, they are closed minded people.

I know this because I am a Christian myself(Catholic). I also understand that many Christians (The Catholic Church especially) have caused many trouble in this world, and have had MANY corrupt members. This is probably why many people hate Christians. Many Christians try to force their beliefs upon other people, which I think is wrong and eventually leads to hatred/violence. I respect everyones beliefs. I just wish that we could all get along with each other.
 
jaimefire2 said:
It is honestly pointless to try and prove God doesn't exist. The reason is that every single religion relies on Faith. "Faith is the confident belief or trust in a person, idea, or thing that is not based on proof". So you can bring up all the facts that you can to disprove a belief of a religious person, but he/she won't listen, they are closed minded people.
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Then it's also pointless to continue trying to prove his existence and try to force it upon people that want nothing to do with religion.
 
Not sure if srs or just newfag...
Tyro said:
1: Carbon does not date objects from billions of years ago.
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But other radioactive dating can last for far more; but quite honestly why does carbon in particular matter?

Seems to me you were simply harping on an unimportant inconsistency due to ignorance on the original poster's part; or even just a mistake.
 
My mommy told me that god is real so it has to be true, despite a lack of empirical evidence and it being an unfalsifiable hypothesis i think i'll throw my cards in with the invisible man in the sky.
 
ioioio175 said:
mmkay soooo the bible tells that "god" created everything 6,000 years ago, then why is it that carbon dating shows materials millions of years old, even billions "4.4-billion-year-old zircon crystal" on earth, doesn't that mean that the earth alone is AT LEAST 4.4 billion years old? sooo that is just about 100% proof that "god" did not create earth, and even if he did why would the bible "most holy and truthful of all books" have a flaw THAT BIG in it? why would "god" lie? if you can answer me this using actual facts, I will be truly amazed.
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I'm sure the scientist lie, because none of them are religious most of the time.
 
I'm an atheist but a friend of mine has very strong beliefs. He's a creationist and alot of what he says makes sense. Though I don't believe in a god, I don't see the point in religious violence. Everyone is just going against their religion, ecumenism is the way to go.
 
Carbon Dating can date up to 75,000 years ago. At least thats what my science teacher told us. :o
 
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