Fat Acceptance

[guthixbeep]

I don't really understand how people take time and energy out of their day to moan about nonsense like this..

 

[Shredderbeam]

No, why are you NOT concerned about their weight? Don't give me that "my body, my choice" crap either. Look at the horrifying healthcare costs obese people create.

ref:
The Healthcare Costs of Obesity: The State of Obesity

First of all, you didn't answer my question about referring to the obese as "subhuman". Moving on...

Obesity generates a lot of healthcare expenses, yes. Guess what else does? Living an extra 20 years and potentially being saddled with dementia, cancer, assisted living, etc. Those studies only looked at the healthcare costs of the obese, but never compared them to other groups - say, the normal healthy population, or smokers.

Lifetime Medical Costs of Obesity: Prevention No Cure for Increasing Health Expenditure

Now, since that seems to be the biggest source of your discontent (and oddly, anger), surely you've changed your mind?

Obese people with children may affect their children's health with more obesity

ref:
Obese parents increase kids' risk of being overweight

Smokers who have children are more likely to smoke. Same goes for the children of Christians, alcoholics, people with psychological issues, people who are skinny but not physically active, people with low IQ scores, etc. Pretty much anything a parent does influences their child - but where's your outrage against those parents?

Meanwhile, here are the fat activists you support. They do NOT represent the entire movement, but they do have great influence.

link:

They have great influence? How do you quantify that? What measures of influence are you using?

Fat acceptance is stupid. I reject their movement. I reject the idea of morbidly obese people ever being considered as "normal people"

Statistically they're not normal, in that they're in the minority of the world's population, but I don't see any reason to consider them subhuman.

I care because I don't want my kids to grow up thinking it is ok to let themselves go. When being obese is normalized, my kids will have less incentive to live a healthy lifestyle.

The world is full of bad influences. If you're a parent, it's your job to teach your kids to not let society dictate what they should do. If you can't do that, maybe having kids isn't a great idea.

 

[Felix]

I don't really understand how people take time and energy out of their day to moan about nonsense like this..

The purpose of this forum is for discussion about touchy subjects, it's a good way to get insight on something you may think you know everything about, but then you soon realize you don't know as much as you thought. It's a good way to educate yourself about what's going on around the world socially, politically, and culturally. No one in this forum is "moaning about nonsense", rather we're discussing touchy topics. Thanks.

 

[kmjt]

The world is full of bad influences. If you're a parent, it's your job to teach your kids to not let society dictate what they should do. If you can't do that, maybe having kids isn't a great idea.

No matter how much parenting you do, the media will always have a large influence on your children.

 

[Felix]

The world is full of bad influences. If you're a parent, it's your job to teach your kids to not let society dictate what they should do. If you can't do that, maybe having kids isn't a great idea.

You can't solely rely on the parents to raise their kids to grow up to be perfect. There will always be outside influence that will either bring their children up or bring them down, such as friends, teachers, culture and media. Take this for example:

You have Child 1, Child 2 and Child 3, all from the same parents. Children 1 and 2 are absolutely perfect; they do all of their homework, they're respectful towards adults and peers, and are just very bright in general. However, Child 3 is an absolute mess. He's arrogant, hateful, dishonest and disrespectful. He doesn't recognize his own problems, and even if he did, he'd just ignore them.

Now, is it the parents fault for the way that child 3 turned out? Probably not, considering how well Children 1 and 2 turned out to be. Sometimes the problems someone has is because them and not because of anyone else; it's just the way they are.

 

[Shredderbeam]

No matter how much parenting you do, the media will always have a large influence on your children.

Yes, it will. It's still the parents job to raise their children properly. If you don't approve of what they watch on TV, take away the TV.

You can't solely rely on the parents to raise their kids to grow up to be perfect. There will always be outside influence that will either bring their children up or bring them down, such as friends, teachers, culture and media. Take this for example:

You have Child 1, Child 2 and Child 3, all from the same parents. Children 1 and 2 are absolutely perfect; they do all of their homework, they're respectful towards adults and peers, and are just very bright in general. However, Child 3 is an absolute mess. He's arrogant, hateful, dishonest and disrespectful. He doesn't recognize his own problems, and even if he did, he'd just ignore them.

Now, is it the parents fault for the way that child 3 turned out? Probably not, considering how well Children 1 and 2 turned out to be. Sometimes the problems someone has is because them and not because of anyone else; it's just the way they are.

Is it their fault? No. Is it their responsibility? Yes, barring some genetic disorder that makes them a sociopath.

 

[70i]

When a guy is fat it doesn't matter. When a women is it drastically reduces her attractiveness.

 

[Shredderbeam]

When a guy is fat it doesn't matter. When a women is it drastically reduces her attractiveness.

In my experience, women are humans with preferences, so it absolutely matters if a guy is fat. Weird, it's like we're all members of the same species with different preferences!

 

[70i]

In my experience, women are humans with preferences, so it absolutely matters if a guy is fat. Weird, it's like we're all members of the same species with different preferences!

Ya but I'm stereotyping.

 

[Shredderbeam]

Ya but I'm stereotyping.

If that's your opinion, fine, but we're not really discussing the same subject then.

 

[no mercy]

ppl that accept fat and continue eating donuts are giving up real easy and have no good goals so ye, chikin macburgah and shit if u know what im saying.

 

[Shredderbeam]

ppl that accept fat and continue eating donuts are giving up real easy and have no good goals so ye, chikin macburgah and shit if u know what im saying.

I followed you for the first half, but the second half 100% lost me.

 

[gabnworba]

I think it needs to be stopped because you're more susceptible to dying early for MANY MANY different reasons.
I would rather there be a health movement.

I'm not saying shame and hate fat people.
I'm saying encourage everyone to be as healthy as they can be, to live as long as they can.

Edit: Thanks for liking Shredderbeam, I literally got a warning for posting this :/

 

[Rebirth RSPS]

Love and respect all human minds

 

[HNCdice]

Love and respect all human minds

No

 

Couldn't care less if someone's fat or not cus it doesn't affect me what so ever

 

[Liability Services]

I believe it's great for somebody to be confident in themselves, yes.
Although showing off, bloating and being proud of an unhealthy factor is 100% wrong, if you love your body, embrace it. yes. Work on improving it, see improvements, show them off.

 

[greenborat]

I don't really mind, just never forget to appreciate some things in life.
Everyone has a fetish or can't really describe it, if they think it's alright then just leave them.
No need to always put a stop at some things, can't really describe it in English, let me try.
"Leave people in their values". 100% sure that was wrong and misspelled, hope you'll understand what I mean.

 

Never understood how someone being fat could affect YOUR life. Is it really that serious lol let them live

 

[Chris Sioure]

lol, fat people in my country are very different and they dont feel the need to be acpted by anyone